Yeah, PC is definitely starting to catch Sony's attention and I imagine they want a slice of the market
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Sony's PS4 exclusive Horizon: Zero Dawn is coming to PC this year, sources tell Kotaku.
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There are millions of us! And we now have more disposable income than ever due to all the good deals we get from the "multi-store future" Timmy invented for us in his infinite wisdom and generosity!
okay i investigated your claims and like i said it is fake news. Tell me if you see nearby LoD pop in in the Video..
since i havent a capture card (yet) i can only use the PS4 Pro´s Upload Functionality with by itself soften the image and youtube does the rest. :/
for this reason i uploaded a few flawless Screenshots of HZD to remember some People here HOW GOOD HZD on PS4 already looks. And that there is no need for "PC is needed to iron out the sooo many flaws of this game" talk. ;) btw - no Photomode magic !
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I love this game and even I forgot how good it looked.
These are all nice, but...PC can polish it to beyond that to a wild degree.
All hail Timmy! Our PC overlord!! /s
Do people actually say the bolded? Lol
Probably not relevant to what you are showing but an odd thing I saw, why are the sparkling things disappearing around Aloy as she walks in the beginning of the video?
I almost forgot how awesome can be ambient music in this game. It's time to go back to this beautiful, atmospheric soundtrack.
that is surely true. The purpose of my post was to counter some people here who pretend(?) that the Game has some fundamental LoD issues on PS4. Far Distances suffer from LoD . But nearby , like 20m radius nearby is flaweless in this Game.
Ah crap, unexpected Horizon Zero Dawn pictures. Now I gotta fix my jaw again and mop up some drool. Thanks for the warning AltissimaRatio.
The Fire Flies? They would naturally stop and move away if a person (or any large animal) gets close.
okay i investigated your claims and like i said it is fake news. Tell me if you see nearby LoD pop in in the Video..
since i havent a capture card (yet) i can only use the PS4 Pro´s Upload Functionality with by itself soften the image and youtube does the rest. :/
for this reason i uploaded a few flawless Screenshots of HZD to remember some People here HOW GOOD HZD on PS4 already looks. And that there is no need for "Master Race PC is needed to iron out the sooo many flaws of this game" talk. ;) btw - no Photomode magic !
Nobody's going to be able to see any detail in that video, doesn't really help.
okay i investigated your claims and like i said it is fake news. Tell me if you see nearby LoD pop in in the Video..
since i havent a capture card (yet) i can only use the PS4 Pro´s Upload Functionality with by itself soften the image and youtube does the rest. :/
for this reason i uploaded a few flawless Screenshots of HZD to remember some People here HOW GOOD HZD on PS4 already looks. And that there is no need for "Master Race PC is needed to iron out the sooo many flaws of this game" talk. ;) btw - no Photomode magic !
I don't think anyone can argue that the game doesn't look good, and it certainly (assuming the devs properly support the hardware) will look better with the flexibility of options and hardware on PC. However:
a) the bit rate in the video is a abysmal its near impossible to evaluate LOD, so why would that be your way to discuss it?
b) I watched just over 30 sec of the video, and there is some obvious LOD changes 28-30sec, foliage on the right (t-0:30.00 vs t-0:30.03). Simple point being there is no game in existence that has masterfully managed LOD in a way that cannot be seen. There are also a lot of ways to mask LOD transitions, but none are sufficient to hide it entirely.
c) why in the fuck, would you post PS4 Pro (edit - looking that the wrong image, res is correct) still images, to further talk about LOD?
d) "master race" bait is the call of the console warrior
check out this one here, i was not planning to upload it but since you mentioned the ambient soundtrack i do it anyway.
It is the Track from that Cutscene where Ted "the Fuckhead" murders everyone the Alphas. Everytime that Track gets played it brings me the chills man.
It is rarely used in the game though..
Seriously even i kinda forgott how good it looks and when i sat down infront of my TV this Evening to make those Vids and screens i was like - Fuck :D
okay i investigated your claims and like i said it is fake news. Tell me if you see nearby LoD pop in in the Video..
since i havent a capture card (yet) i can only use the PS4 Pro´s Upload Functionality with by itself soften the image and youtube does the rest. :/
for this reason i uploaded a few flawless Screenshots of HZD to remember some People here HOW GOOD HZD on PS4 already looks. And that there is no need for "Master Race PC is needed to iron out the sooo many flaws of this game" talk. ;) btw - no Photomode magic !
Do you have a darker video ?
Because it sounds like a great idea indeed for showcasing LoD with 3/4 angles and completly pitch black environnements.
Otherwise, check this from 15 to 30 seconds:
"fake news" welp, no, sorry. As for the rest of your comment, sounds like you're more annoyed about possible improvements than anything else. It doesn't make it a bad looking game.
You guys might be talking about different versions of the game. There was a time where LoD was pretty bad (especially on the ground), around the time the DLC came out. I remember because I noticed it immediately and I sent some videos to Guerrilla showing the difference (if you didn't have the DLC installed it didn't have that problem). It was patched not long after.
Comparison:
Normal: https://youtu.be/7PQPnRpH5L0
Bugged: https://youtu.be/uQTlDo9xIWs
It's more noticeable around 1:00 and 1:30 when the ground is more even.
There is a little LoD pop in closer than that but you'll easily miss it as Decima uses a fading method to bring it in, so it's far less distracting (and certainly not "aggressive") compared to other open world games on current gen consoles. Still the best looking game on consoles this gen IMO, from a technical point of view. Mostly because of the foliage which is in abundance. But still many areas for improvement, certainly image quality and framerate are the two we're guaranteed to get on PC at least. HZD at 60fps will be pretty mind-blowing. And then you think of what HZD2 will look like.
I didn't say the game has "fundamental LoD issues". I said it can have an agressive LoD at times. Which you can see in the video I posted or others. Doesn't make it bad. But it's definitely an area that can be greatly improved. And no, it's not "perfect" or "better" or "flawless".
From that this video, you are right at least within the first seconds, though the shadow detail change is more obvious.
I honestly don't care enough to investigate further though, as the only time I might be interested in this, is when if the PC version arrives and feel the urge to change it to better suit what I want / performance. Usually I'd be fine with it as this is pretty minimal.
Also a good point to bear in mind, I have no idea what was changed between versions.
As I've not played on PS4 longer than 30 mins, I don't really know the extent of any changes.
Ah, I See You're a Man of Culture As Well.
This is one of my favourite track.
lol That YOU mentioned it - they are fireflys ;)
Sure the Video is not perfect but if the LoD nearby would be so aggressive
like some people try to claim you would see it anyway . The LoD change you mentioned i think i even saw while plaing and i think it was not the actual level of Detail of the foliage changed but rather the lighting shader kicked in suddenly (wich in al fairness is kinda LoD issue) - but still nothing what makes you worrie when you play and happens very rarely. IF it yould be a actual change of Details out of System Load it would happen all the time, wich it does not, so..
About the Pictures i think i wrote why i posted them?!
I used the Master Race term not as bait , simply because it gets used more by actuall PC People rather than Console folks. But i edited my Post. Dont wanna derail the Topic .
This here is probably the Answer :
But like i said - the LoD managment of far Distances has potential to be improved drasticly on PC, unlike nearby LoD.
My guess is they are working on a PC/PS5 version with engine improvements.
That was also my first thought when I heard of the PC version. They are very likely also working on a remaster or just a free graphical and performance update of Horizon 1 on PS5 when it launches in late fall.
Ah, that makes a lot of sense. I stopped trying to go for the platinum because I couldn't stand how ugly it looked. I'll just play it on PC now though. How much do you guys think the game will cost?
It's entirely a LOD issue, and I would say from playing the game myself, that LOD transitions are noticeable and potentially a little more aggressive than other games, ie I felt I noticed it more when I was playing than some other games.
Does that have any bearing on the game, or that it is somehow a detriment to it, or that it is even poorly done in terms of managing LOD? Not in the slightest, and I still think it was mighty impressive on both PS4 / PS4 Pro.
What I hated, and still hate, is the use of fog in high up locale / heavily dense forest areas. I feel it is overdone to maintain performance. And that's true in a ton of games anyway. Just something I don't like the look of it.
Some how didn't see the sentence.
Literally not true, especially on this forum. It is primarily used as some kind of put down, followed by the usual ;) So its fairly obvious what the purpose of these posts are, as usual.
more likley that the had more system resources left. Death Stranding is an empty Dessert in comparision to HZD.
No it doesent has aggressive LoD at Times. It has the same Issues of LoD like all other games especially at Distance. The simple fact that there is no LoD change nearby make it for me like flaweless.
I shown you this isn't the case. So no, it's not flawless. Therefore, it can be improved. And no, it doesn't have the same issues of LoD like "all other games". Believe it or not, there are games on PC which LoD sliders that can go really far away. Which is why Dictator and I are telling you this is something that can be improved.
Not true.
Check this post:
Yes, there is a ton more that could be done about LOD for this game, and I know that even from what little time I have played. That seems undeniable, so I am not sure why it is being argued against.
Feels like a lot of the time PC users might make this distinction, mostly because we are able to change it most of the time or see it as something we want to change. Not sure why that needs some sort of knee-jerk defence posts on the topic, when it seems a perfectly reasonable thing to see as improvable. I don't think anyone is saying it is unbearable or anything
i feel i can sign this ;)
it was something like - to show to People how good the games actualy looks on PS4 already..
I post often in the German PCgamesHardware Forum wich is full of all sorts of PC enthusiasts. There the Term comes more often from them. But yeah - let it rest now.
Huh? I was talking about the bugged LOD. You saw the screenshots...
It still seems odd at the edges of the screen. Even though you're standing still, turning the camera makes them disappear.
And I'm a fan of the TV show, not a firefly research scientist lol :)
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How did this thread get to 95 pages, are people really that upset?
The game is 3 years old, it's not enticing anyone to buy a PS4 at this point. Hell, if Sony announced that all future first party games would come to pc 3 years late I don't think it would affect sales of PS5 in any noticeable way.
The game is 3 years old, it's not enticing anyone to buy a PS4 at this point. Hell, if Sony announced that all future first party games would come to pc 3 years late I don't think it would affect sales of PS5 in any noticeable way.
yeah the combat is realy someting ..
what they need to add for HZD2 is that you are able to have the overtaken robots at your side at all times. That would be awesome. Now their radius is limited and you cannot use them to much against other Robots.
However, i managed to get a good battle out of the system with an overtaken Thunderjaw attacking alot of Ai Robots ( and desintegrate them)
Also i could imagine something like a Colloseum Mode were Tribal People letting their Robots fight against each other for money (read shards)
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Yeah, having an invisible Stalker running at your side with opponents not seeing it until it's too late.
Or better yet, you are cornered at the edge of a cliff and you whistle for your Stormbird and you jump off and land on it, swoop up and destroy everyone, or just jump in midair from Stormbird to Stormbird to T-Rex, like this sequence in Uncharted 4:
And they probably have some Colosseum mode as part of multiplayer (it's already in the lore). Like Horde mode where online opponents control the horde. Imagine raiding a camp with a swarm of machines.
Yess Sony, join Microsoft and launch games on Steam! Bloodborne, Spidey, Last of Us 2... would be amazing. Better yet if Nintendo also did that (lol). Mario Maker 2 with shared levels would be amazing.
Please read the current page of this thread, it shows clearly what the current topic is, and it's not fanboyism.
Imagine Nintendo ports Mario Maker 2 and you still have to plug in those damn codes to access specific levels haha.
JOAC owner says release is August. Don't know if this is true.
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