Sony's Strategy for next gen involve releasing games on more than one platform, your thoughts?

[Ωλ7XL9]

Remember reading something a few months ago maybe that Sony would consider releasing more of their mainstream games to other platforms, mentioning PC version. It still remains to be seen as it's not clear what they meant by that statement. Would it be PS5 exclusives also launching simultaneously on PC like a few Xbox One exclusives have launched (Xbox One + Windows PC).

What would be your thoughts if Sony does intend to release their PS5 exclusives on PC simultaneously at launch? Could that hurt the value proposition around PS5? Also do you think PlayStation exclusives should be available on platforms(without PS Now)?

 

[Jawbreaker]

I would switch to Nintendo + PC only. No point in buying their hardware if I can get Sony exclusives natively on PC.

 

[Eggman]

The fourth option should just say you think they will remain Playstation exclusive. What we "want" is irrelevant.

 

[RoboPlato]

They specifically mentioned multiplayer focused titles with that statement. I could see some older titles making their way to PC as well but I think the big single player games will remain on PS5 for the foreseeable future.

 

[Gerwant]

Remember reading something a few months ago maybe that Sony would consider releasing more of their mainstream games to other platforms, mentioning PC version.

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He (Shawn Layden) was talking about multiplayer games, not mainstream games.

 

[Eggman]

Remember reading something a few months ago maybe that Sony would consider releasing more of their mainstream games to other platforms, mentioning PC version. It still remains to be seen as it's not clear what they meant by that statement. Would it be PS5 exclusives also launching simultaneously on PC like a few Xbox One exclusives have launched (Xbox One + Windows PC).

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They specifically said multiplayer games so I think that would mostly be smaller games they publish like Predator

 

[Kolx]

Multiplayer PlayStation games will come to PC and other devices says Sony's Shawn Layden

It was about multiplayer games, and was by Shawn who isn't at PS anymore. I'd hardly take that as an evidence that their mainstream games are coming to PC.

 

[ThingsRscary]

let people play and enjoy games.

 

[Rosebud]

I would switch to Nintendo + PC only. No point in buying their hardware if I can get Sony exclusives natively on PC.

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This.

 

[Strings]

Iirc, wasn't that only about their multiplayer games (which are a thing they want to do more of)?

 

[TheExecutive]

If you could cross-play between PC and PS5 then there would be no point to buying any next-gen hardware. If you couldn't then it would be a tough decision.

 

[kadotsu]

MLB The Show is the only game I could see happening.

 

[Kyoufu]

Shawn Layden is no longer at the company so I don't think his plan will even be much of a thing after the first wave of multiplayer games see their PS4/PS5 + PC releases.

 

[Rosebud]

Iirc, wasn't that only about their multiplayer games (which are a thing they want to do more of)?

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Yes, but it was said by Shawn who left Sony and we still don't know why lol

 

[poklane]

This came from Shawn Layden who has since left and been replaced by Hermen Hulst, so who knows if this is still the plan. And the way he worded it it sounded like it would only apply to MP focused titles, not SP focused games such as Horizon, Uncharted, The Last of Us and God of War.

 

[Sky87]

If you could cross-play between PC and PS5 then there would be no point to buying any next-gen hardware. If you couldn't then it would be a tough decision.

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Statements like this doesn't make sense since multiplats always sell more on console vs PC. People who play on consoles will always play on console, no matter if the games are also on PC. Best scenario for everyone is if Sony releases their games on PC as well.

 

[N.Domixis]

I want ps games to remain PS5 exclusive, otherwise what's the point?

 

[Guerrilla]

"I want my exclusives to stay within the PlayStation ecosystem"
except for fanboyism, why would anyone want that? Serious question

 

[Rosebud]

"I want my exclusives to stay within the PlayStation ecosystem"
except for fanboyism, why would anyone want that? Serious question

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There's not a "I think they will remain exclusive" option, only this

 

[Dictator]

Statements like this doesn't make sense since multiplats always sell more on console vs PC. People who play on consoles will always play on console, no matter if the games are also on PC. Best scenario for everyone is if Sony releases their games on PC as well.

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Yeah - I think people need to stop viewing PC as some competitor platform to consoles. MS do not anymore. I think Sony sees it that way probably soon enough if they already do not.

Diff people want diff things. Some people just want a box like a console. Some people want a box like a PC.

No people want Stadia. ;)

 

[Pankratous]

"I want my exclusives to stay within the PlayStation ecosystem"
except for fanboyism, why would anyone want that? Serious question

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So that Sony has a healthy ecosystem to fund more incredible games?

 

[thomasmahler]

Would make a lot of sense to me. At the very least they'd make a ton of extra money on PC Versions and they'd make a ton of fans happy that way (Would love to play Bloodborne at 60fps).

Any publisher who has a product that could become a worldwide phenomenon would have to consider publishing on other platforms as well at some point. Sony's blockbuster AAA games feel big, but they're a tiny fart in the wind when compared to Minecraft, Fortnite, etc. Imagine Sony would have a title that could become the next GTA V - By not releasing on multiple platforms, you basically say no to potentially making hundreds of millions of dollars. I'd imagine it becomes harder and harder for publishers to ride the console exclusivity train with games now upping in price once again with the next-gen consoles coming out. Imagine making a business case for a game that cost you 200m+ USD to make, but your potential customer base is limited by the install base of the hardware you're making. At some point the risk / reward will make no sense anymore.

 

[Rosebud]

Any publisher who has a product that could become a worldwide phenomenon would have to consider publishing on other platforms as well at some point. Sony's blockbuster AAA games feel big, but they're a tiny fart in the wind when compared to Minecraft, Fortnite, etc.

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Thank God for that. I want games with an end.

Sony and Nintendo don't need to make games like everyone else.

 

[Nostremitus]

Since they've said they aren't working on a handheld, I'd hope their portable-centric franchises would come to Switch.

 

[thomasmahler]

Yeah - I think people need to stop viewing PC as some competitor platform to consoles. MS do not anymore. I think Sony sees it that way probably soon enough if they already do not.

Diff people want diff things. Some people just want a box like a console. Some people want a box like a PC.

No people want Stadia. ;)

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This. So much this.

PC isn't in conflict with consoles. People who want the convenience and the lower price of consoles aren't necessarily the same folks who shell out 1.5k+ for their gaming rigs.

Imagine Disney spending 300m+ USD on a film, but now you'd only be able to watch the film on a box they're selling for 400 USD. It'd be madness.

 

[Lant_War]

I want them on PC. Just Bloodborne Sony, please, I beg you.

 

[Asbsand]

I think Sony is going to screw something up next-gen but that's just my cynical bitchass emotions.

 

[Deleted member 27315]

They said maybe some multiplayer games. They never said that they will not keep exclusives.

 

[skeezx]

their MO is 100% getting people to buy PS5s (and whatever can be eked out of PS4 lifetime sales). so not in the near future

though at whatever point they'll probably start untying the "playstation" brand from dedicated hardware.

 

[QuiteSomething]

Don't care
But I won't be buying PS5 is they put everything on PC so

 

[thomasmahler]

Thank God for that. I want games with an end.

Sony and Nintendo don't need to make games like everyone else.

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It's not about them making games like everyone else. If they're making a game that could become a worldwide phenomenon (right now I'd say their Uncharteds and God of War's, etc. are still limited to a smaller hardcore market), they're obviously limiting their outreach by only selling that game on a (pretty expensive) console they're making. With budgets of games rising again now, it'll become harder and harder to ignore the fact that they're leaving a ton of money on the table.

 

[Sky87]

So that Sony has a healthy ecosystem to fund more incredible games?

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They'll make money from people on PC as well. The money they make from hardware isn't all that much, especially in the beginning.

 

[JahIthBer]

It's just gonna be for multi player games at best, too many MTX to ignore.

 

[Modest_Modsoul]

I don't care about it, so...

 

[Garrison]

They should of been releasing games on PC a long time ago to be honest. Games like Warhawk, Stardust and quite a lot of their games would of found a great audience on PC to keep those franchises alive and made a ton of money on the side.

 

[Cosmic Voyager]

Would make a lot of sense to me. At the very least they'd make a ton of extra money on PC Versions and they'd make a ton of fans happy that way (Would love to play Bloodborne at 60fps).

Any publisher who has a product that could become a worldwide phenomenon would have to consider publishing on other platforms as well at some point. Sony's blockbuster AAA games feel big, but they're a tiny fart in the wind when compared to Minecraft, Fortnite, etc. Imagine Sony would have a title that could become the next GTA V - By not releasing on multiple platforms, you basically say no to potentially making hundreds of millions of dollars. I'd imagine it becomes harder and harder for publishers to ride the console exclusivity train with games now upping in price once again with the next-gen consoles coming out. Imagine making a business case for a game that cost you 200m+ USD to make, but your potential customer base is limited by the install base of the hardware you're making. At some point the risk / reward will make no sense anymore.

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you gonna put Ori on Playstation?

 

[Rosebud]

It's not about them making games like everyone else. If they're making a game that could become a worldwide phenomenon (right now I'd say their Uncharteds and God of War's, etc. are still limited to a smaller hardcore market), they're obviously limiting their outreach by only selling that game on a (pretty expensive) console they're making. With budgets of games rising again now, it'll become harder and harder to ignore the fact that they're leaving a ton of money on the table.

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PSN alone made more money last year than everything Xbox/Nintendo. What money they are leaving on the table making "limited games"?

 

[bane833]

I really doubt that they're going to release their big hitters on PC. This would be completely nonsensical and hurt the brand. But we'll see.

 

[poklane]

They'll make money from people on PC as well. The money they make from hardware isn't all that much, especially in the beginning.

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The profit of selling consoles isn't in the hardware, it's in the online MP subscription and that sweet 30% cut from every transaction through the PlayStation Store. That's why they want you locked into your ecosystem, so you potentially spend hundreds of dollars on PS+ throughout the generation with then making even more from you whenever you buy something in the PlayStation Store.

 

[thomasmahler]

you gonna put Ori on Playstation?

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If Microsoft would be in, sure. Why wouldn't I?

 

[Bosch]

I dream with Sony games on PC everyday. Imagine their games without the limitation of weak consoles hardware.

Imagine Uncharted 4, Horizon, Bloodborne, God of War with proper PC versions ultra graphcis, 4k and 60 fps.

Players should have the option to play their games whatever they want.

 

[Griz]

I think Sony is looking at their data and seeing releasing on PC isn't hurting PS consoles much. Many people are just going to buy a console and call it a day. On the flip side PC owners who probably would have bought the game, but dont want to spend another few hundred bucks on a playstation will probably now get the games. The tradeoff is how much money did they really make from PC gamers buying a playstation for only 1 or a couple games. Would the increase of software sales outweigh PC gamers not having to buy the hardware?

Last gen people were very curious how rise of mobile and PC games would effect consoles, and it really didn't do too much. So I think Sony is more confident with at least letting some stuff out in the wild on PC.

 

[KORNdog]

i feel like this approach for xbox has already cannibalised its home console value. if sony did the same then PC would be the only platform you realistically would ever need (unless you really like nintendo games) BUT, i don't see sony doing this. at least not regarding their own 100% exclusive titles, i think they understand that it's their exclusives that help drive their hardware sales.

but i do imagine any partnerships with external studio's will ultimately result in PC versions being made (and xbox potentially) as has been the case with death stranding, journey, yakuza, nier etc. but do i expect to see uncharted on PC? not in the native sense, no. but i think a closed and controlled environment like PSnow would work for them going forward.

 

[Deleted member 38706]

you gonna put Ori on Playstation?

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I don't think most people buy a PS4 to play Metroidvania games, so that's a pretty bad comparison you're trying to make. Not to mention putting games on PC is not the same as putting them on competitor platforms.

 

[Rosebud]

Not to mention putting games on PC is not the same as putting them on competitor platforms.

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So why Nintendo is not porting their games?

 

[MJKadhim]

if Sony do this, then they are dumb like its theres no point of buying a Playstation !

 

[ShinUltramanJ]

What multiplayer games?

 

[Kyry]

I think they need to be careful with what games go where.
Nintendo's brand Identity is probably strong as its ever been, Xbox' brand identity has clearly taken a hit. Seems silly to follow the example of the latter.

 

[Cosmic Voyager]

If Microsoft would be in, sure. Why wouldn't I?

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just curious. Your games look awesome, but I only have PS

 

[Deleted member 38706]

So why Nintendo is not porting their games?

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Why don't you ask Nintendo? Some of you guys get your jimmies rustled easily. I'm responding to a user who is trying to paint the director of Ori as a hypocrite. *It seems like they were just curious. (Comparing Sony porting games to PC to Ori should be ported to PS4). Not sure why you feel the need to bring Nintendo into this.