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Sooo.... Is it fair to say that VR didn't die?
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Nah it's not dead it's pretty great actually and it's cool to see people jump on with quest and I'm sure with PSVR2 it will see a nice jump
It more so faded into a niche. It's not what people wanted it to be, but it's its own thing, and I think that's cool.
As with any technological advancement, the better it makes porn the more likely it is to succeed.
And Beat Saber sure doesn't hurt either, that thing can almost keep VR going on its own.
And Beat Saber sure doesn't hurt either, that thing can almost keep VR going on its own.
Its found a solid footing and that was always the biggest hurdle. Its here to stay and will only get bigger as the tech gets better.
I hope not. All of those crashed hard and suddenly. If VR is to expand, it has to do it by making it easier to get into and having good software. Fads are fickle, a solid base is much better.
A niche complement to nonVR gaming ATM, and for a while yet still until tech continues to advance and price goes way down and convenience increases.
It didn't die. It's proven itself to not be the next 3D TV or whatever. But it's pretty small still. The biggest VR hits typically sell a few hundred thousand copies, so it's a risky space to enter for a developer without a vested interest like Oculus or Sony. Time will tell if the market will grow as the tech gets sleeker and cheaper or if it will remain a niche.
You can get a decent WMR headset for $150 on sale. That's, while still expensive, easy enough to get people through the door.
Yep. VR is in the same boat as many other paradigm shifts like mobile and even console gaming pre-Steam to an extent: one side clamoring that it's gonna completely replace what we're used to, the other side saying it'll die and be looked back on as a fad.
What ends up happening is whatever people are talking about finds a userbase and gets on just fine, while everything else keeps chugging along as well.
I have an Oculus Quest and it definitely feels like a step toward the next way of interacting with video games. It's not a next generation of sorts but its usability and accessibly is amazing.
VR is not dead and hasn't been sequestered to the depths of mandatory work training simulations.
VR is not dead and hasn't been sequestered to the depths of mandatory work training simulations.
It passed the first step of not being treated like a novelty like move or kinect. And the second step of having a steady flow of games, on two different platforms. Nintendo is actively adding Vr modes and mini-games to its Labo VR and the games that support it.
There would be other hurdles to jump, but as far as PSVR2, we jumped ahead to seeing if it will have staying power across a generation. If it can do that, and at least repeat the same feats the original did in a short amount of time, I'd be convinced it might stick be sticking around. I sure hope it does
There would be other hurdles to jump, but as far as PSVR2, we jumped ahead to seeing if it will have staying power across a generation. If it can do that, and at least repeat the same feats the original did in a short amount of time, I'd be convinced it might stick be sticking around. I sure hope it does
If you're going to remember extreme posts why arent you commenting about all the people that thought VR would be the standard by now as well?
The people who don't want VR to have a future really just don't know that they want VR to have a future. The sentiment just takes time to change along with the evolution of the technology. Luckily a lot of passionate people are putting the investment in, even if the immediate results aren't necessarily profitable.
People on the same threads as the ones saying VR would die
it's almost like there was hyperbole from both sides
Obviously. Here's all the proof you need:
www.roadtovr.com
What VR Headset Makers (not analysts) Have Actually Said About Sales Expectations
If you’re at all involved in the VR space, you likely recently saw a flurry of downtrodden headlines describing “slow,” and “modest,” holiday VR headset sales, with some even calling VR “the biggest loser this holiday.” The impetus of those headlines was a major revision of research firm...
www.roadtovr.com
- Fads like 3D TVs declined fast. We're talking in 2-3 years, whereas we are 4 years into VR now with growth, not decline.
- The games releasing now and in the future are only bigger and higher budget. The software is increasing on all fronts, with the first batch of AAA built-for-VR games releasing and large franchises making exclusive AAA VR games.
- VR is solving it's issues over time, slowly but surely. The R&D in particular has solved most of the remaining issues and is just a matter of getting that consumer-ready throughout the 2020s.
The most extreme thing VR backers said was that it would be mainstream by now; I don't think almost anyone thought it would be the standard. Usually when people are interested in something, they are more knowledgeable about people that are not interested in it.
People who expected it to be this huge thing over night weren't listening to what people in the VR industry were saying. It's going to be big, but like all disruptive technology, it takes time.
If you want to believe in that...
Guess me and all the other people remembering the "future of gaming" posts are just having collective allucinations
I've been posting in VR threads since the beginning. The amount of people that said that as a discussion point without specifically clarifying that they didn't think it would replace monitor gaming (at least for the forseeable future) is miniscule, way more so than people that constantly compared VR to 3D TV's (or even the virtua boy).
it's where it needs to be
irony is if VR became a Kinect/Wii type runaway sensation a few years ago most headsets would be in the closet by now. it's more or less according to keikaku as it gets cheaper and accessible, adoption is ticking up and up. hard to have a bearish outlook at the moment
irony is if VR became a Kinect/Wii type runaway sensation a few years ago most headsets would be in the closet by now. it's more or less according to keikaku as it gets cheaper and accessible, adoption is ticking up and up. hard to have a bearish outlook at the moment
Nope but it still has a lot of room for improvement wrt the hardware but we're getting there. Using my Quest the other day and marveling at how clear the display is now compared to where we were at several years ago with the DK1...I have no earthly idea how I was able to deal with that low res display and motion smear :P
Once we get foveated rendering combined with eye tracking the tech is going to see a jump in graphical complexity the likes of which we haven't seen since PS2/Xbox>360/PS3. I mean, assuming the games in question are getting that kind of production budget, seeing titles like Asgard's Wrath make this a more hopeful reality.
The other thing to consider is once machine learning+procedural gen becomes more sophisticated the level of detail in virtual environments can exponentially increase, this is obviously something that will benefit pancake games too like what's currently being implemented in the new MS Flight Sim, but for something like VR where more details increase immersion a bunch it'll make a big difference in overall presence and virtual world building. Indies will be able to utilize this sort of thing on the cheap and more easily create vast worlds with lots of interactivity.
The future of VR is bright indeed :)
Once we get foveated rendering combined with eye tracking the tech is going to see a jump in graphical complexity the likes of which we haven't seen since PS2/Xbox>360/PS3. I mean, assuming the games in question are getting that kind of production budget, seeing titles like Asgard's Wrath make this a more hopeful reality.
The other thing to consider is once machine learning+procedural gen becomes more sophisticated the level of detail in virtual environments can exponentially increase, this is obviously something that will benefit pancake games too like what's currently being implemented in the new MS Flight Sim, but for something like VR where more details increase immersion a bunch it'll make a big difference in overall presence and virtual world building. Indies will be able to utilize this sort of thing on the cheap and more easily create vast worlds with lots of interactivity.
The future of VR is bright indeed :)
I think is as expensive as you want it to be, you could get a quest for 399$ today, but you could also spend thousands of dollars on a valve index and a rig that can maximize that 144hz display.
So saying VR is expensive and niche it's not that accurate.
Most people that said it was a fad had never tried it, I had no doubt crow would be served in massive amounts. VR is just starting, people better buckle up.
For me next gen doesn't start until PSVR 2 releases. Really hoping Sony goes big on it and makes all the right moves. Such as ditching the fucking Moves.
It went from "The future of gaming" to "A kind of device which has it's own niche". It didn't die, but it won't overtake the market.
Also, I'm honestly surprised that someone thought on that in the first place.
Also, I'm honestly surprised that someone thought on that in the first place.
I don't think ever claimed that VR is dead or dying, it'll just forever be a niche for a great number of reasons...price, complexity, room space needed, etc.
VR is awesome..
I have PSVR and gear VR, soon a quest.
Astrobot, Wipeout, and Beat Saber are amazing to play. I expect VR to grow as it gets cheaper and better.
I have PSVR and gear VR, soon a quest.
Astrobot, Wipeout, and Beat Saber are amazing to play. I expect VR to grow as it gets cheaper and better.
I'm still pretty convinced that some kind of VR will be a big part of the industry in the future. It may be 5 years from now, it may be 50 years from now. This current iteration of VR may just trundle along in the background, continuing to develop and make progress towards making it more appealing and accessible to the mainstream, for quite a while yet.
And I think that's fine. It's definitely not dead - it's just not a particularly big consumer market at the moment.
With the way technology advances, I'd be really surprised if price, complexity and room space required remain a barrier forever. If VR never takes off, I don't think it'll be because the technology could never get cheap, simple and accessible enough.
And I think that's fine. It's definitely not dead - it's just not a particularly big consumer market at the moment.
With the way technology advances, I'd be really surprised if price, complexity and room space required remain a barrier forever. If VR never takes off, I don't think it'll be because the technology could never get cheap, simple and accessible enough.
Probably because these "extreme posts" made up well over half of the posts in every VR thread. Hell, you still have people in this very thread with their heads still buried in the ground. :D
