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Which game do you find holds the most replayability?

  • Demon's Souls

    Votes: 36 11.6%
  • Dark Souls

    Votes: 105 33.8%
  • Dark Souls II

    Votes: 44 14.1%
  • Dark Souls III

    Votes: 93 29.9%
  • Bloodborne

    Votes: 95 30.5%
  • Sekiro

    Votes: 17 5.5%

  • Total voters
    311

Valkerion

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Oct 29, 2017
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Finally watched reviews and some discussions on DS3 that I skipped the last year and a half, man oh man I missed a ton of NPCs and areas. I knew I was missing NPCs which was a complaint I had a bit, that I had no idea where to meet them again after the first encounter, more so in this one than other games. I only missed two areas, the DLC dragon and apparently almost the entirety of freaking Anor Londo. I had no idea the area was that big, how the shit did I miss it.
 

Jimnymebob

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Oct 26, 2017
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Finally watched reviews and some discussions on DS3 that I skipped the last year and a half, man oh man I missed a ton of NPCs and areas. I knew I was missing NPCs which was a complaint I had a bit, that I had no idea where to meet them again after the first encounter, more so in this one than other games. I only missed two areas, the DLC dragon and apparently almost the entirety of freaking Anor Londo. I had no idea the area was that big, how the shit did I miss it.

Wait, Anor Londo is tiny, unless I missed something too lol.

Isn't it just the main hall, and the area outside of it? Plus the invisible path where the rotating stairs used to be?
 

Guppeth

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wait, Anor Londo is tiny, unless I missed something too lol.

Isn't it just the main hall, and the area outside of it? Plus the invisible path where the rotating stairs used to be?
Definitely tiny. Up the stairs, left past the dead blacksmith, unlock the main gate, and then the boss. I checked the door where you first enter the hall in DS1 but it's blocked by rubble.
 

LakeEarth

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Oct 27, 2017
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My first "Souls-like" game was Bloodborne, which I first played, beat, and platinum'd this year. Best of the generation.

Because I wanted more, I borrowed a friend's DS3 and I am having a good time with it. I just beat the Deacons of the Deep. I'm noticing some differences. Having so fewer healing potions was a HUGE adjustment. I'm still trying to learn the systems. For example, I thought Undead Bone Shards were a temporary boost, and not a permanent buff, so figuring that out sooner could've helped make things a bit easier there. The amount of weapons to choose from is also a bit daunting, and unlike Bloodborne, I'm guessing there are quite a few duds in the mix.

One annoyance is that it seems much easier to hit walls in this game. I know it's part of the game, but there have been moments in the game where an enemy traps me on a narrow ledge, and I am unable to attack because I keep hitting the wall (and then fall off the ledge trying to adjust my trajectory). I've changed my weapon to something with a more forward swing to avoid such situations in the future. To it's benefit, it is much rarer to get hit through walls/doors in this game, which I appreciate.
 

Noema

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I'm glad you're enjoying it. It's a fantastic game and on par with BB for the most part in my opinion.

Did your friend lend you the Fire Fade Edition? (the one with the DLC)
 

LakeEarth

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I'm glad you're enjoying it. It's a fantastic game and on par with BB for the most part in my opinion.

Did your friend lend you the Fire Fade Edition? (the one with the DLC)
No it's just the regular disk. I'll have to forego the DLC this time around, which I've heard is hard as hell in this game. It sucks, but I don't want to keep my friends game for too long anyways.
 

The Living Tribunal

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Oct 25, 2017
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Dear lorebros, is there an explanation as to why Yhorm and the judicator giants have human looking faces? The giants we see in DS2 have holes for faces, are they supposed to be from a different species or what?
 

Noema

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Dear lorebros, is there an explanation as to why Yhorm and the judicator giants have human looking faces? The giants we see in DS2 have holes for faces, are they supposed to be from a different species or what?

Yeah, I remember wondering about that as well. Dark Souls in general seems to have very loose definitions of Giants and Dragons specifically.

In DS1 you have giants like the ones that operate Sen's Fortress, as well as the Blacksmith and Gough.

In DS2 you have the tree looking giants and the DS1 variety is nowhere to be found.

In 3 you have the DS1 giants, in several different sizes; the remnants of a DS2 style giant and the human-like giants like Yhorm.

I guess the lore explanation in DS3 is that it's basically a jumble of possible time lines and ages crunched together so we're seeing creatures that lived millenia apart. But when it comes to DS3 I guess it's for the best not to think too much about it. I love the game but it often feels like DS1 fanfiction.
 

LakeEarth

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Further in DS3. Killed a Lord of Cinder without realizing it. I know the Abyss Watcher was in the intro, but I guess I forgot when I finally reached him.

Still a good memorable boss fight. One of those where you die a bunch of times, but you know you're figuring him out each time so it isn't so frustrating.

Having a tough time trying to settle on a weapon. I've been rocking the long sword (from the start of the game) and the Arstor's Spear, but that thing is pretty weak. I'm doing a balanced build, so I've got a lot of options, but I'm still not sure what direction to go in.
 
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Further in DS3. Killed a Lord of Cinder without realizing it. I know the Abyss Watcher was in the intro, but I guess I forgot when I finally reached him.

Still a good memorable boss fight. One of those where you die a bunch of times, but you know you're figuring him out each time so it isn't so frustrating.

Having a tough time trying to settle on a weapon. I've been rocking the long sword (from the start of the game) and the Arstor's Spear, but that thing is pretty weak. I'm doing a balanced build, so I've got a lot of options, but I'm still not sure what direction to go in.
I mean it really depends on your play style. Fast and loose, slow and cautious, like to be nimble or rather hit like a tank? Also, ranged battle is viable and rather helpful just as a back up or if you need to lure enemies or what have you.
 

LakeEarth

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I mean it really depends on your play style. Fast and loose, slow and cautious, like to be nimble or rather hit like a tank? Also, ranged battle is viable and rather helpful just as a back up or if you need to lure enemies or what have you.
Yeah I'm a cautious player, but prefer my weapons to be stronger, but not too slow. If it helps, I preferred the Axe and the Whirlygig Saw in Bloodborne.
 
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Yeah I'm a cautious player, but prefer my weapons to be stronger, but not too slow. If it helps, I preferred the Axe and the Whirlygig Saw in Bloodborne.

Can't go wrong with a Dark sword.

Also, a mace hits really hard and is one handed so you can shield. Also a Halberd works with a cautious playstyle. Need to check out different move sets and how they feel for you, though.
 

Jimnymebob

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I decided to do a strength build replay on Dark Souls: went straight to the Catacombs and got the BK Great Axe and a Bonewheel Shield on my first go lol. So I'm sorted for the run now.
 
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Man, I am playing through Nioh right now and I am feeling really disappointed as someone who enjoyed the hell of all those demos they did. The game is really not that enganging after all, I will try to keep going but as of now I don't really want to + college obligations will make it hard to keep at it.

I can't wait for Sekiro tbh
 

Noema

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Man, I am playing through Nioh right now and I am feeling really disappointed as someone who enjoyed the hell of all those demos they did. The game is really not that enganging after all, I will try to keep going but as of now I don't really want to + college obligations will make it hard to keep at it.

I can't wait for Sekiro tbh

I feel that one's enjoyment of Nioh is completely contingent on how much you enjoy the combat and the loot min-maxing. Unlike the From games, which are content first (even if the gameplay is very engaging), Nioh is almost 100% systems and mechanics.

So I can really see how someone might not enjoy Nioh despite liking the From games. If the combat doesn't click, the rest of the game isn't compelling enough to be engaged by it.
 
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I even like the combat but everything surrounding it feels so weak. Areas, enemies, bosses. And why the hell I need to wait for mysterious story misson "???" to unlock certain skills? Progression feels really bad in this game for me.
 

Luap

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Hi SoulsEra,

I made this quick reference sheet for myself but figured I'd share it here as well. I compared data between the Wikidot & Fextralife wikis + this spreadsheet. There are some things I'm not totally sure of, like if Champion is weak to Frostbite or not. Wikidot says nothing, while Fextralife says he is. There's several of these kinds of inconsistencies between the two wikis.

But anyway, here it is:

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DS3 BOSSES - QUICK REFERENCE SHEET:

Critical Bosses

Iudex Gundyr
• Tips: Parryable (phase 1); susceptible to Frostbite; Firebombs effective in phase 2
• Weakness: Lightning, Fire (phase 2)
• Resistance: Dark
• Immunity: Poison, Toxic

Vordt of the Boreal Valley
• Tip: Use resins or infused weapons for more damage
• Weakness: Dark
• Resistance: Physical damage
• Immunity: Frostbite

Crystal Sage
• Tips: Parryable; use Throwing Knives to kill clones; susceptible to Vow of Silence; use Blue Bug Pellets
• Weakness: Lightning, Fire, Dark
• Resistance: Magic

Deacons of the Deep
• Tips: Use sweeping attacks + Pontiff's Left Eye; susceptible to Alluring Skulls; susceptible to Vow of Silence; Boulder Heave's AoE physical dmg + stun is very effective
• Weakness: Lightning, Fire, Physical, Hollowslayer Greatsword
• Resistance: Dark, Magic

Abyss Watchers
• Tips: Parryable; susceptible to Backstabs; use Red Bug Pellets in phase 2
• Weakness: Lightning
• Resistance: Dark, Bleed
• Immunity: Poison, Toxic

Pontiff Sulyvahn
• Tip: Parryable
• Weakness: Thrust, Dark, Lightning
• Resistance: Poison, Bleed, Frostbite

Aldrich, Devourer of Gods
• Tips: Target Gwyndolin for more dmg; susceptible to Vow of Silence; use Blue Bug Pellets
• Weakness: Fire, Lightning, Wolf Knight Greatsword, Farron Greatsword
• Resistance: Magic, Dark
• Immunity: Poison, Toxic

Dancer of the Boreal Valley
• Tip: Highly susceptible to Bleed
• Weakness: Strike, Dark
• Immunity: Poison, Toxic, Frostbite

Dragonslayer Armour
• Tips: Highly susceptible to Frostbite; use Yellow Bug Pellets
• Weakness: Strike, Wolf Knight Greatsword, Farron Greatsword
• Resistance: Dark, Lightning
• Immunity: Poison, Toxic, Bleed

The Twin Princes
• Tips: Highly susceptible to Frostbite; susceptible to Bleed; use Red Bug Pellets
• Weakness: Lightning & Magic (Lorian); Slash & Thrust (Lothric)
• Resistance: Dark (both)

Soul of Cinder
• Tip: Use Red Bug Pellets
• Weakness: Lightning, Dark
• Resistance: Fire, Bleed
• Immunity: Poison, Toxic

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Optional Bosses

Curse-Rotted Greatwood
• Tip: Susceptible to Alluring Skulls
• Weakness: Slash, Thrust, Fire
• Resistance: Magic, Dark

Old Demon King
• Tips: Susceptible to Toxic; use Red Bug Pellets
• Weakness: Dark, Magic, Lightning, Black Knight weapons
• Resistance: Fire, Poison
• Immunity: Bleed, Frostbite

Oceiros, the Consumed King
• Tips: Susceptible to Bleed & Frostbite; use Blue Bug Pellets
• Weakness: Lightning
• Resistance: Magic
• Immunity: Poison, Toxic

Champion Gundyr
• Tips: Parryable; susceptible to Bleed (especially in combo w/ Sword Master summon)
• Weakness: Lightning
• Resistance: Poison, Toxic, Bleed

The Nameless King
• Tips: Use a steady shield w/ high Lightning resist; Lightning infused bow/crossbow is very useful against KotS; use Yellow Bug Pellets
• Weakness: Dark (both), Lightning (King of the Storm)
• Resistance: Fire (King of the Storm); Lightning (NK)
• Immunity: Poison & Toxic (NK)

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DLC Bosses

Ashes of Ariandel

Sister Friede
• Tip: Highly susceptible to Bleed (both)
• Weakness: Dark, Lightning, Hollowslayer Greatsword (Friede); Magic (Father)
• Resistance: Poison, Toxic
• Immunity: Frostbite (both)

Champion's Gravetender & Gravetender Greatwolf
• Tip: Highly susceptible to Bleed (both); Parryable & susceptible to Backstabs (Gravetender)
• Weakness: Fire (Greatwolf)

The Ringed City

The Demon Prince
• Tip: Highly susceptible to Bleed
• Weakness: Black Knight weapons
• Resistance: Fire, Dark, Magic
• Immunity: Poison, Frostbite

Darkeater Midir
• Tip: Pestilent Mist is highly effective
• Weakness: Thrust, Lightning, Wolf Knight Greatsword, Farron Greatsword
• Immunity: Poison, Toxic, Bleed, Frostbite

Slave Knight Gael
• Tip: Susceptible to Frostbite, Poison, & Toxic
• Weakness: Strike
• Resistance: Slash, Dark

Halflight, Spear of the Church
• Tip: Susceptible to Frostbite (both)
• Weakness: Lightning (both); Fire (Guardian)
• Resistance: Bleed, Poison, Toxic
 
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LakeEarth

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Jesus Christ, Pontiff Sulyvahn! Dark Souls 3 just went from 0 to a million in no time. I did end up taking him down, but holy hell was that a lot of tries. Motherfucker is relentless, worse than the Orphan of Kos. Even Kos gave you a second to heal if you needed it.
 

Luap

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Jesus Christ, Pontiff Sulyvahn! Dark Souls 3 just went from 0 to a million in no time. I did end up taking him down, but holy hell was that a lot of tries. Motherfucker is relentless, worse than the Orphan of Kos. Even Kos gave you a second to heal if you needed it.

Haha yeah he's a real asshole. He's parryable but honestly I've never been able to consistently time them against him.
 

Noema

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Jesus Christ, Pontiff Sulyvahn! Dark Souls 3 just went from 0 to a million in no time. I did end up taking him down, but holy hell was that a lot of tries. Motherfucker is relentless, worse than the Orphan of Kos. Even Kos gave you a second to heal if you needed it.

Haha yeah he's a real asshole. He's parryable but honestly I've never been able to consistently time them against him.

He's completely trivialized by parrying. I suck at parrying in DS3 but with a parry shield like the Small Leather Shield it's not difficult to land parries consistently. He even takes bonus damage from ripostes compared to most bosses.

Otherwise he's pretty tough.

LakeEarth DS3 has some hard as nails bosses, the Optional and DLC ones in particular. You'll have fun. ;)
 

Noema

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Goddamn.

Everytime I feel frustrated by a boss in Souls or stuff like Nioh, I realize that somewhere, someone has beaten that boss with a naked level one character with their eyes closed using a steering wheel controller.
 

Luap

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I figured I'd write down a list of inconsistencies between Wikidot and Fextralife's info on the DS3 bosses, in hopes that between this thread and r/darksouls3 people could clear them up.

Vordt of the Boreal Valley: Fextralife lists Fire weakness; Physical resistance; Poison, Toxic, and Bleed immunities. None of these are mentioned on Wikidot.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:vordt-of-the-boreal-valley
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Vordt+of+the+Boreal+Valley

Curse-Rotted Greatwood: Fextralife lists Pestilent Mist as a weakness. Wikidot lists Magic and Dark resistances. Fextralife lists Poison, Toxic, Bleed, and Frost immunities.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:curse-rotted-greatwood
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Curse-Rotted+Greatwood

Crystal Sage: Wikidot lists Fire, Dark, and Bleed weaknesses. Fextralife lists Physical, Poison, Toxic, and Frost weaknesses.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:crystal-sage
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Crystal+Sage

Deacons of the Deep: Wikidot lists Lightning, Fire, and Poison weaknesses. Fextralife lists Frost weakness; and resistance to Bleed, Poison, and Toxic.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:deacons-of-the-deep
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Deacons+of+the+Deep

Old Demon King: Wikidot lists Magic, Lightning, and Toxic weaknesses. Fextralife lists Toxic resistance.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:old-demon-king
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Old+Demon+King

Pontiff Sulyvahn: Wikidot shows Dark and Lightning being his lowest resistances. Fextralife lists Fire as a weakness but not Dark.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:pontiff-sulyvahn
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Pontiff+Sulyvahn

Aldrich, Devourer of Gods: Fextralife lists Thrust weakness; Frost and Bleed resistances.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:aldrich-devourer-of-gods
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Aldrich,+Devourer+of+Gods

Dancer of the Boreal Valley: Fextralife lists Lightning weakness. Wikidot shows Lightning resistance being similar to Fire and Magic.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:dancer-of-the-boreal-valley
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Dancer+of+the+Boreal+Valley

Oceiros, The Consumed King: Wikidot lists Bleed weakness. Fextralife lists Frost weakness; Bleed resistance.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:oceiros-the-consumed-king
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Oceiros,+the+Consumed+King

Champion Gundyr: Fextralife lists Strike and Frost weaknesses; Slash resistance.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:champion-gundyr
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Champion+Gundyr

Dragonslayer Armour: Fextralife lists Strike, Wolf Knight's Greatsword, Farron Greatsword weaknesses; Slash resistance.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:dragonslayer-armour
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Dragonslayer+Armour

The Nameless King & King of the Storm:
King of the Storm:
Wikidot lists Dark weakness. Fextralife lists Frost weakness.
Nameless King: Wikidot lists Fire resistance. Fextralife lists Fire weakness; Frost resistance.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:the-nameless-king
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Nameless+King

The Twin Princes:
Lorian:
Fextralife lists Magic weakness.
Lothric: Wikidot lists Slash and Thrust weaknesses. Fextralife lists general weakness to Physical.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:the-twin-princes
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Lothric,+Younger+Prince

That's all for the base game. I'll get around to going over the DLC later.
 
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I figured I'd write down a list of inconsistencies between Wikidot and Fextralife's info on the DS3 bosses, in hopes that between this thread and r/darksouls3 people could clear them up.

Vordt of the Boreal Valley: Fextralife lists Fire weakness; Physical resistance; Poison, Toxic, and Bleed immunities. None of these are mentioned on Wikidot.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:vordt-of-the-boreal-valley
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Vordt+of+the+Boreal+Valley

Curse-Rotted Greatwood: Fextralife lists Pestilent Mist as a weakness. Wikidot lists Magic and Dark resistances. Fextralife lists Poison, Toxic, Bleed, and Frost immunities.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:curse-rotted-greatwood
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Curse-Rotted+Greatwood

Crystal Sage: Wikidot lists Fire, Dark, and Bleed weaknesses. Fextralife lists Physical, Poison, Toxic, and Frost weaknesses.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:crystal-sage
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Crystal+Sage

Deacons of the Deep: Wikidot lists Lightning, Fire, and Poison weaknesses. Fextralife lists Frost weakness; and resistance to Bleed, Poison, and Toxic.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:deacons-of-the-deep
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Deacons+of+the+Deep

Old Demon King: Wikidot lists Magic, Lightning, and Toxic weaknesses. Fextralife lists Toxic resistance.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:old-demon-king
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Old+Demon+King

Pontiff Sulyvahn: Wikidot shows Dark and Lightning being his lowest resistances. Fextralife lists Fire as a weakness but not Dark.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:pontiff-sulyvahn
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Pontiff+Sulyvahn

Aldrich, Devourer of Gods: Fextralife lists Thrust weakness; Frost and Bleed resistances.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:aldrich-devourer-of-gods
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Aldrich,+Devourer+of+Gods

Dancer of the Boreal Valley: Fextralife lists Lightning weakness. Wikidot shows Lightning resistance being similar to Fire and Magic.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:dancer-of-the-boreal-valley
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Dancer+of+the+Boreal+Valley

Oceiros, The Consumed King: Wikidot lists Bleed weakness. Fextralife lists Frost weakness; Bleed resistance.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:oceiros-the-consumed-king
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Oceiros,+the+Consumed+King

Champion Gundyr: Fextralife lists Strike and Frost weaknesses; Slash resistance.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:champion-gundyr
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Champion+Gundyr

Dragonslayer Armour: Fextralife lists Strike, Wolf Knight's Greatsword, Farron Greatsword weaknesses; Slash resistance.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:dragonslayer-armour
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Dragonslayer+Armour

The Nameless King & King of the Storm:
King of the Storm:
Wikidot lists Dark weakness. Fextralife lists Frost weakness.
Nameless King: Wikidot lists Fire resistance. Fextralife lists Fire weakness; Frost resistance.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:the-nameless-king
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Nameless+King

The Twin Princes:
Lorian:
Fextralife lists Magic weakness.
Lothric: Wikidot lists Slash and Thrust weaknesses. Fextralife lists general weakness to Physical.
http://darksouls3.wikidot.com/bosses:the-twin-princes
https://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Lothric,+Younger+Prince

That's all for the base game. I'll get around to going over the DLC later.
That's awesome. Maybe I can link this in the OT.
 

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He's completely trivialized by parrying. I suck at parrying in DS3 but with a parry shield like the Small Leather Shield it's not difficult to land parries consistently. He even takes bonus damage from ripostes compared to most bosses.

Otherwise he's pretty tough.

LakeEarth DS3 has some hard as nails bosses, the Optional and DLC ones in particular. You'll have fun. ;)
Yeah I should learn parrying. I only played Bloodborne before so it's totally different. I was able to kill him with straight dodging though, albeit with lots and lots of retries.
 

LakeEarth

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After the DS3 Pontiff Sulyvahn fight, I double-backed because I remember seeing entrance that I didn't go into. I was surprised to find a bonfire in there. Little did I know, there's a whole other direction to explore down there. I was surprised, considering how I kept reading that DS3 was linear.

Those guys who shrink your health bar are fucking assholes.
 

Red Liquorice

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It gets a little less linear as you go on, you get that branch in Irythyll, the branch at road of sacrifices, that's a fair bit in to the early half of the game. The linearity comes from comparisons to DS1 and how gated you are from early weapon upgrading. The start of DS1 is much more open than the straight path of DS3. Even DS2 has several ways to go from the start and Demon's opens up every path after the first boss.
 

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Given the time of year, I guess we can be thankful a NEW Miyazaki game is only a few months away :)

Souls-ish or not, Sekiro should be quite the ride!
 

Noema

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120 days to go, exactly.

The wait will be excruciating.

EDIT: Holy hell, I make so many typos. Swiftkey is so funky on this forum for some reason. It's almost like it has a mind of its own.
 
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What are people expecting difficulty wise?

I am thinking something like BB where you get punished for passive playstyle and not tasking risks, but I don't really have a good feel for it.
 

Noema

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I'm expecting it to be hard as nails.

Firstly, their previous game, DS3, is by far the hardest (in my opinion of course). They really went ham with some of the bosses, what with multiple phases and health bars. Specially the optional and DLC ones.

Secondly, because there's no leveling and little on the way of play customization, they can fine tune the encounters without worrying about making them too hard or easy for certain builds.
 
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I also think we will see a difficulty increase.

For lots of souls veterans, the games have gotten easier as we go, likely due to previous experience

DS3 was very similar in style to BB for me.

Good thought about not being able to cheese it, but really a lot of us don't necessarily care about cheese strats either.

I can see where this can lead to major progression roadblocks as well though.
 

LakeEarth

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Going from BB to DS3, I can't say I noticed anything getting significantly harder. Differences to adjust for to be sure, but not really harder. I haven't beaten DS3 yet nor tried the DLC (which I know is hard as hell), so I might be talking too soon.

Currently beat the Dragonslayer Armour, and have decided to double back because I missed a couple of optional areas.