MOD EDIT:
We have no intention of banning discussion of this game outright, and the views of the director can be relevant. However, it is clear that there will be no peace in these threads without tighter moderation and brighter lines. Therefore if that discussion is to happen we are laying down two ground rules:
1. Vávra's views on a multitude of subjects are offensive and racist. Defense of his views will be moderated like any other defense of racism.Do not try to find sneaky ways to circumvent this ruling, like singling out Vávra for nonspecific praise or support.
2. Buying this game does not automatically make someone a horrible person and nothing will be learned or gained by anyone if you take that stance. Do not attack other members just for buying the game or enjoying mundane aspects of the game. Do not attempt to shame them.
There is room to discuss the game as a cultural artifact with nuance and in a manner where some actual exchange of ideas is possible -- but only if the above two conditions are met. If you do not feel you can adhere to those two conditions, do not post in these threads. Be advised that moderators may have to apply stricter penalties than usual to keep the peace.
First let me apologize for my english, I know it's pretty bad. I wanted it to share this in this forum.
Just like the title says. Between yesterday and today, a spanish reviewer got harassed for a review by misogynist people via twitter. After that, he changed the entire review.
The game I'm talking about it's Kingdom Come: Deliverance
This is the review after the change, I can't find the original since it has been edited. Of course the review it's in spanish.
https://www.vidaextra.com/rpg/kingdom-come-deliverance-rigor-historico-o-machismo-disfrazado
The reason for that harasment it's because the article was criticizing about how the game was sexism and historically inaccurate. Male chauvinist and historical loyalty does not serve as an excuse.
Also the article also says how the creator of the game, Vávra, is a confessed gamergater. On more than one occasion he has been in favor of the male chauvinist movement that started back in 2014 but whose sequeles continue to this day and which defends that there is not a problem on misogyny in the videogame industry.
Also there's more in the articule that I posted.
This is getting really depressing, seems like you can't even share your opinion because there will be people harassing you.
We have no intention of banning discussion of this game outright, and the views of the director can be relevant. However, it is clear that there will be no peace in these threads without tighter moderation and brighter lines. Therefore if that discussion is to happen we are laying down two ground rules:
1. Vávra's views on a multitude of subjects are offensive and racist. Defense of his views will be moderated like any other defense of racism.
EDIT: We appreciate everyone who took the time to contact us privately to help improve our policies. After discussion and review, we are softening enforcement of the last sentence of Rule 1 – this was never intended to forbid discussion about Vávra as a writer or a developer but rather to close a loophole whereby posters were deliberately attempting to provoke others with vague drive by posts. You should still not do that. However, it is certainly possible to appreciate the accomplishments of the development team without subscribing to Vávra's personal views.
2. Buying this game does not automatically make someone a horrible person and nothing will be learned or gained by anyone if you take that stance. Do not attack other members just for buying the game or enjoying mundane aspects of the game. Do not attempt to shame them.
There is room to discuss the game as a cultural artifact with nuance and in a manner where some actual exchange of ideas is possible -- but only if the above two conditions are met. If you do not feel you can adhere to those two conditions, do not post in these threads. Be advised that moderators may have to apply stricter penalties than usual to keep the peace.
First let me apologize for my english, I know it's pretty bad. I wanted it to share this in this forum.
Just like the title says. Between yesterday and today, a spanish reviewer got harassed for a review by misogynist people via twitter. After that, he changed the entire review.
The game I'm talking about it's Kingdom Come: Deliverance
This is the review after the change, I can't find the original since it has been edited. Of course the review it's in spanish.
https://www.vidaextra.com/rpg/kingdom-come-deliverance-rigor-historico-o-machismo-disfrazado
The reason for that harasment it's because the article was criticizing about how the game was sexism and historically inaccurate. Male chauvinist and historical loyalty does not serve as an excuse.
Also the article also says how the creator of the game, Vávra, is a confessed gamergater. On more than one occasion he has been in favor of the male chauvinist movement that started back in 2014 but whose sequeles continue to this day and which defends that there is not a problem on misogyny in the videogame industry.
Also there's more in the articule that I posted.
This is getting really depressing, seems like you can't even share your opinion because there will be people harassing you.
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