Again though, his max sentence based on the charge is 6 months total. That's all he could ever face.
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Special Counsel’s office calls Michael Flynn’s cooperation “substantial”; recommends no prison time
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Again though, his max sentence based on the charge is 6 months total. That's all he could ever face.
Hey, at least he/she came around. Still PLENTY of people covering their eyes and their ears, and saying "nothing will come of this," despite the 3 dozen or so indictments, several guilty pleas, Whitaker not touching the investigation (though we still don't know why that is), and Trump posting crazier and crazier Tweets by the day, as a wounded animal would.
Edit: Ugh...after reading further posts by that person....never mind.
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As bad as Hillary's campaign was it wasn't the only thing that lost her that election. Not too mention saying the Russia probe has been nothing but hype shows you haven't been paying much attention.
People are really caught up on the Flynn jail time thing.
He's not Manafort, he was never looking at serious jail time to begin with, what he provided is worth not having 6 months in jail. Doesn't mean he won't have other conditions he has to meet. Y'all trust Mueller right up until now when one guy who would've gotten a light sentence gets let off of jail?
He's not Manafort, he was never looking at serious jail time to begin with, what he provided is worth not having 6 months in jail. Doesn't mean he won't have other conditions he has to meet. Y'all trust Mueller right up until now when one guy who would've gotten a light sentence gets let off of jail?
You thought this entire investigation was to cover for Hillary? What radio station are you listening to?
No, I thought (and still do think the intense focus by the media) is to avoid looking at the Democrats' political failures as the reason for the defeat and instead finding a scapegoat. I still do not think Russia had a significant impact on the election. Certainly less than a number of other foreign powers, corporations, and other political entities.
I cant tell if this is sarcasm or reality, but damn dude, do some research on your own before just regurgitating a trump tweet or fox news.
No, I'm actually a communist. Democrats lost because HIllary was a weak ass centrist
33 people and 3 companies indicted. 7 guilty pleas. It has been pretty hype.
So being a communist means you don't pay attention and keep reiterating one point like that is barely related at the topic at hand?
Wow, you'd think the FBI, NSA, CIA, etc would release another joint report on meddling by OTHER foreign powers, like they did for Russia, if these foreign powers had a greater impact like you imply.
Why didn't you inform our intelligence agencies?! They need your clairvoyance!
You literally sound like Trump, here. "Russia meddled, but probably other countries too!!!"
Because both parties love Israel
Israel, Suadi Arabia
Once you dive a little deeper, you see some undeniable pieces of evidence in this investigation.
-Lies regarding contact with Russians, Russian Deals, sanctions, meetings, and timelines
-Putin on the international stage said he wanted Trump to win
-Indictment for hackings by name
-Russian money flooding right wing outlets
-Republican James Comey instructed by Trump to pledge loyalty and to stop investigation into Flynn.
-Guiliani openly stating his best defense against impeachment is to win the court of public opinion. Aka, smear the investigation and obfuscate the facts to the point where Congress has plausible deniability to look the other way and downplay the investigation results.
The question things seem to come down to is, did the Trump organization, the campaign, or Trump explicitly promise a reduction on sanctions so as to make it easier for Putin and his oligarchs launder money, secure financing for Trump Tower Moscow (then to give a gift of $50 million dollar penthouse to Putin), and to further other business deals. And did the Trump organization openly solicit the hacking of DNC emails to make this happen?
Wanting to lift sanctions is an acceptable policy position. Wanting them lifted so you can please your business associates, gift real estate to foreign leaders, and to secure a business loan for personal gain is a serious conflict of interest. And encouraging hacking to help win an election is problematic.
Hillary's loss made people salty. But the dirty underbelly that is Trump's business dealings is a major conflict of interest.
Oh yeah no doubt tons of dirty shit happened. But dirty shit happens all the time, so I didn't expect anything to come of this.
I don't think many people care about the charges? They're more upset that a rich white guy can be fucking comic book evil and even commit treason yet get no jail time whilst if you're working class, Hispanic, and 38 with 4 children you can get 8 years for mistakenly voting in elections because you don't know that permanent residents aren't able to like Rosa Maria Ortega.
Lol, do you have ANY proof/rumor/lead that Isreal and Saudia Arabia meddled in our election to a greater degree than Russia (a country with heavy investment in cyber-warfare), or are you literally throwing shit at a wall and hoping it sticks?
That's just lawyer stuff I can make them in MS Word too LOLLLL.
We don't use Word for redaction bars, you chucklefucks.
Giving enormous amounts of money to politicians from both party, pretty open knowledge.
That is not even in the same ballpark as what Russia did. Seriously, go educate yourself, then maybe come back to the topic.
So, if both parties are under the payroll of these entities, what motivation would they have to meddle with the election over Russia?
They would get their policy regardless of who won.
Not sure why y'all are wasting so much time trying to convince a low effort troll who is proudly wallowing in their naivete.
People will continue to be disappointed if they throw terms with specific legal definitions around, like treason, in situations that don't meet the requirements for such a charge. It's fine if you want to speak in colloquial terms but don't switch the context to legal proceedings and expect it to have weight.
No no no. They only charged him with 1 thing because he was cooperating. They could charge him with a lot more.
This is correct. AND, he pleaded to a crime that itself maxes at 5 years imprisonment. His cooperation meant that other possible charges were not pursued.
No I just don't feel like being piled on when the mods are hanging over
Where are these additional charges documented? And the max in the guidelines isn't 5 years, again it's 6 months.
Don't come in big-swinging-dick style with your terrible takes then.
That's not at all what your response entailed but whatever. It's derailing at this point and you've shown you don't give a shit. My last post on this nonsense.
Oh, I dunno...
- The plot to kidnap a US citizen on behalf of a foreign regime known for human rights violations and suppression of dissidents
- Acting as a foreign agent of influence while advising the government on its policy positions
And that's just what we know about... that all goes from the assumption that he was just taking foreign PR and feeding it to a US audience; I would bet that a proper counter-intelligence investigation would turn up communications that go the other way as well, namely him feeding sensitive information to his paymasters.
We also don't know the full extent of his harebrained scheme to build nuclear reactors with Saudi and Russian investors across the Middle-East once those pesky sanctions on Russia were lifted as planned.
Flynn is incredibly dirty and the fact that Mueller goes so lenient on him must mean that whoever he rolled on must be even dirtier.
Are any crimes or potential prosecutions for any of that mentioned in the documents filed by Mueller or anyone else?