SPECULATION: I believe Starfield (ZeniMax/Bethesda) is a Mobile game

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AAMARMO

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Recently I have been searching through Global Brand Database for different video game related trademark. I recently checked out ZeniMax Media trademarks and notice the long-rumored Starfield trademark people are anticipating to be Bethesda next big triple-A game. However, unfortunately, I have noticed a pattern with this trademark compare to other ZeniMax Media games that released on console.

First, let's look at the good and services of Starfield (11.12.2017):

mobile application software, namely, electronic game programs; downloadable computer game software offered via the internet and wireless devices; computer game software for use with on-line interactive games; video games for mobile devices, electronic game programs; downloadable electronic game programs; electronic game software; computer game programs; downloadable computer game programs; interactive game programs; interactive game software; downloadable computer game software offered via the internet and wireless devices; downloadable instruction and user guides related to video games; downloadable software in the nature of expanded content for existing video and computer games; skins and covers for video game consoles and devices; video game controllers and joysticks; downloadable artwork and videos related to video and computer games; software for accessing online interactive computer games; video and computer games; mousepads; Metal key chains; Tin signs; Vinyl LPs; Watches and jewelry; clocks; Collectible trading card milk bottle caps; leather document portfolios; Art Book; Wallets; messenger bags; backpacks; leather key chains; purses; Collectible statues of plastic; lunch boxes; cups and mugs; beverage glassware; shotglasses; video game joysticks; bobblehead dolls; plush toys; action figure toys; snowboards; board games; card games; replica toy weapons; puzzles; Prop replica collectibles
You may have noticed that the first line mentions mobile-related uses such as mobile application software, namely, electronic game programs and video games for mobile devices. Now some might say Im being far-fetched and just grabbing out this words, however, let's look at a game ZeniMax has released on Console Platforms recently.

Skyrim (04.05.01) Good and Services tags:

Computer game software for use with computers and video game consoles; downloadable computer and video game software offered via the internet and wireless devices; electronic device featuring computer game software for use with computers and video game consoles; pre-recorded digital media in the nature of CD-ROMs and DVDs featuring computer games and video games, wallpapers, screensavers, digital music files, and graphics, videos, films, multimedia files, motion pictures, and animation in the field of video games and computer games; downloadable digital media, namely, downloadable images, downloadable artwork, downloadable text files, downloadable audio files, downloadable video files, downloadable game software, and downloadable motion pictures; mugs and glasses; clothing; posters and artwork; video game related merchandise; books and strategy guides in the field of video and computer games; jewelry; plush
You may have noticed that the first line mentions computer game software for use with computers and video game consoles compared to Starfield right off the bat mentions Mobile game-related features.

Let's look at another trademark that ZeniMax filled Prey 2017 (16.08.2016):

Computer game software for use with computers and video game consoles; downloadable computer and video game software offered via the internet and wireless devices; electronic device featuring computer game software for use with computers and video game consoles; pre-recorded digital media in the nature of CD-ROMs and DVDs featuring computer games and video games, wallpapers, screensavers, digital music files, and graphics, videos, films, multimedia files, motion pictures, and animation in the field of video games and computer games; downloadable digital media, namely, downloadable images, downloadable artwork, downloadable text files, downloadable audio files, downloadable video files, downloadable game software, and downloadable motion pictures
Again with this trademark right off the bat mentions Computer game software for use with computers and video game consoles like the previous one I mention Skyrim VR. But what does a mobile game trademark from Bethesda Softworks looks like?

Fallout Shelter (12.01.2016) Good and Services tags:

Video games for mobile devices, electronic game programs; downloadable electronic game programs; electronic game software; computer game programs; downloadable computer game programs; interactive game programs; interactive game software; downloadable computer game software offered via the internet and wireless devices
Similar to Starfield this starts out with Mobile related features compared to the other two Skyrim VR and Prey 2017 which starts out with computer game software for use with computers and video game consoles.

With this evidence, you can see why I strongly believe that Starfield is a mobile game and not there next big triple-A game. However, I believe they are working on there triple A game maybe its Elder Scrolls, Fallout or a brand new IP but I am confident that it's not Starfield.

Source: http://www.wipo.int/branddb/en/

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maybe things changed during development, because their original filling (now abandoned) didnt mention mobile at all

 
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I’m in the same boat as you OP. Many think it will be BGS’s next open world sandbox RPG, but considering recent trends within BGS and the evidence you provide. I definitely feel Starfield will not be of a traditional BGS formula.
 
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I can't put into words how much joy this would bring me if true. Funniest gaming thing since FFXIV's debut trailer probably.
 

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maybe things changed during development, because their original filling (now abandoned) didnt mention mobile at all

 
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It would be announcing something tho. :p Also, maybe they want to do a mobile game after how their last AAA games performed.
Very well? Despite the bad rep their games get in vocal minority bubbles, Bethesda RPGs are still some of the most popular and well-received. Especially Skyrim and Fallout 4.
 
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Very well? Despite the bad rep their games get in vocal minority bubbles, Bethesda RPGs are still some of the most popular and well-received. Especially Skyrim and Fallout 4.
I'm not saying they're bad, far from it. Just that sales for Wolfenstein 2, Evil Within 2, Prey weren't that good. TES and Fallout are huge of course, but they can't release a new one every year.
 
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It would be announcing something tho. :p Also, maybe they want to do a mobile game after how their last AAA games performed.
So they want to transition to mobile after the success of FO4 and Skrim ports? It's probably mobile but I doubt it's due game sales of their previous AAA games, maybe FO Shelter is raking the dough in the background though
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I'm not saying they're bad, far from it. Just that sales for Wolfenstein 2, Evil Within 2, Prey weren't that good. TES and Fallout are huge of course, but they can't release a new one every year.
I was of the mindset of thinking about BGS and their games, not Bethesda as a whole. Although I suppose that is something to consider was well.
 
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I'm not saying they're bad, far from it. Just that sales for Wolfenstein 2, Evil Within 2, Prey weren't that good. TES and Fallout are huge of course, but they can't release a new one every year.
Are we talking sales or quality here? Because Evil Within 2 and Prey are both good games, Prey is fantastic.
 

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It's almost certain that there is a mobile game and an actual game coming, considering the filings for both. It matches Fallout, their last major release, and the fact that they stated multiple times they enjoyed the mobile game Fallout Shelter and want to do things like it for other games they release. So, you're not entirely wrong OP, but not entirely right either.
 

FelipeMGM

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yeah, l think SweetNicole brings a great point here

They also have ''STARFIELD'' fillings for clothing apparel and game manuals/posters/trading cards. These are usually done when you are preparing some big project, covering the property for licensed products too

Also, I need Fallout in space godammit lol
 
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It's almost certain that there is a mobile game and an actual game coming, considering the filings for both. It matches Fallout, their last major release, and the fact that they stated multiple times they enjoyed the mobile game Fallout Shelter and want to do things like it for other games they release. So, you're not entirely wrong OP, but not entirely right either.
Yeah. This is what some of us said. A mobile game and a console/pc game.
 
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It's almost certain that there is a mobile game and an actual game coming, considering the filings for both. It matches Fallout, their last major release, and the fact that they stated multiple times they enjoyed the mobile game Fallout Shelter and want to do things like it for other games they release. So, you're not entirely wrong OP, but not entirely right either.
There's are a few things that I think people are getting confused about.

1) Starfield is not trademark by Bethesda Softworks this could mean this is not related to there next triple A game for consoles
2) It looked like a console game with this name was in the work but seem to be canceled or didnt get developed due to the trademark abandon Bethesda
maybe things changed during development, because their original filling (now abandoned) didnt mention mobile at all

 
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yeah, looking thoroughly through their TM's, I agree with SweetNicole.

They also have ''STARFIELD'' fillings for clothing apparel and game manuals/posters/trading cards. These are usually done when you are preparing some big project, covering the property for licensed products too

Also, I need Fallout in space godammit lol
Fallout Shelter has the similar fillings your suggesting as well if you look at them.
 
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I don't know how confirming stuff works here. I can do that if a mod asks me in private message.
Usually people will just say it, but I believe mods would like you to message them with some kind of proof you have real knowledge, then you can let us know if you don’t mind.
 
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I wouldnt be surprised if it is a mobile tie-in, also, Starfield could also be a placeholder name for the Project and they will be deciding on another name for the release.
 
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I'm a lawyer who regularly files trademark applications and I'll tell you the order of goods and services listing means absolutely nothing, particularly when there are a dozen or more listed.
It kinda strange that there mobile games always start of with mobile, this is a strange situation.

Also the console version of the trademark was abandon.
 
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