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SPECULATION: I believe Starfield (ZeniMax/Bethesda) is a Mobile game
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My belief and expectation is that Starfield is a PS4/Xbox One/PC game that will get a Fallout 4 style treatment at Bethesda's E3 showcase with a mobile app releasing at some point during the presentation of the game. Also expecting Starfield to be released in mid November 2018.
Historically speaking, Bethesda has filed the trademark for their next game near the end of development of their last one.
For example, Bethesda trademarked Skyrim in 2006, though in that case they picked up Fallout, and didn't end up doing meaningful development on it until after Fallout 3 was complete.
Starfield was filed near the end of Fallout 4's development, so being Bethesda's next AAA game seems plausible.
However, I do think that SweetNicole's point might be correct here. There's nearly a 0% chance that Bethesda's mobile game is an IP unrelated to any of their console games, so it's going to be Elder Scrolls, Fallout, or possibly even Starfield.
For example, Bethesda trademarked Skyrim in 2006, though in that case they picked up Fallout, and didn't end up doing meaningful development on it until after Fallout 3 was complete.
Starfield was filed near the end of Fallout 4's development, so being Bethesda's next AAA game seems plausible.
However, I do think that SweetNicole's point might be correct here. There's nearly a 0% chance that Bethesda's mobile game is an IP unrelated to any of their console games, so it's going to be Elder Scrolls, Fallout, or possibly even Starfield.
I want to get excited. It's just very difficult for me to do so with Bethesda developed games. I know it's going to be on that same tired engine that has some of the same problems it has always had. Todd Howard did hint that the game after their next game would be on a new engine. That game is no doubt ESVI for next generation.
Yeah, I'm not exactly an expert on TES lore, but going by what I have read about it... Well, honestly, it probably would be possible to get a space opera in there, I think? But only in the sense that the nature of reality in TES is super malleable because of the specific conceit behind why and how that universe even exists. It still wouldn't really fit thematically, though.
I'd be all for CDPR making the connection between The Witcher-verse and Cyberpunk's world they hinted at in TW3 more concrete, though. It'd be a cool little easter egg that would actually enhance The Witcher's lore, while not having any significant negative impact on Cyberpunk's. Like, it'd be perfect if one of the random side-quest givers in the game was just straight-up Ciri. She could talk about where she came from in deliberately vague terms, just like with the Cyberpunk reference in TW3.
What they've said historically is that they have a major mobile game and two AAA games before TES VI.
Please note that they might get more than one major mobile game out in that timeframe.
This shouldn't be surprising to anyone who follows Bethesda Game Studio development. They are usually in pre-production for several games at any given time while working on production of single game. Case in point, while they are production of the assumed Starfield, they have talked about another title coming out after Starfield and before the next elder scrolls. I would assume both those games (after Starfield and next elder scrolls) are well into pre-production at this point.
Oh, gotcha. I never heard the mobile game specification. That makes things even more interesting then.
Yup. Pre-poduction on Fallout 4 began and then paused when Skyrim entered full-production. Likewise, pre-production on Skyrim began when Fallout 3 was in production.
There are a number of bigger Western developers taking another stab at mobile soon.
On the ZeniMax front, ZeniMax Online Studios (TESO) is also making multiple mobile games based on ZeniMax's existing IPs, but I think they started a year or two later than Bethesda, who is about three years into the development of their second mobile title, so presumably that will be out soon.
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Actually I rather have a brand new IP from them than them games.
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I have seen that a user from this thread has been verified and is in position on knowing this knowledge, however, they have not verified there claim for it being there next triple-A game coming this fall. So im still skeptical of this being a Mobile or a Console game. So im here to provide more evidence why I still most likely think its a mobile game rather than there next big triple-a Game or maybe a mobile tie-in game. However, there's also a possibility that the game was in development or planned for the console due to an old trademark back in 2013 that was abandon found by FelipeMGM. Also a shout out to Rösti helping me to find more evidence.
Canada Trademark: http://www.cipo.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-c...24&extension=00&startingDocumentIndexOnPage=1
Malaysian Trademark: http://www.wipo.int/branddb/en/showData.jsp?ID=MYTM.2016057729
New Zeland: http://www.wipo.int/branddb/en/showData.jsp?ID=NZTM.1053343
Israil: http://www.trademarks.justice.gov.il/TrademarkSearch/ReportView?tmCaseID=280617
Singapore: http://www.wipo.int/branddb/en/showData.jsp?ID=SGTM.40201617724X.TM
United States: http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=86970879&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
Canada Trademark: http://www.cipo.ic.gc.ca/app/opic-c...24&extension=00&startingDocumentIndexOnPage=1
Malaysian Trademark: http://www.wipo.int/branddb/en/showData.jsp?ID=MYTM.2016057729
New Zeland: http://www.wipo.int/branddb/en/showData.jsp?ID=NZTM.1053343
Israil: http://www.trademarks.justice.gov.il/TrademarkSearch/ReportView?tmCaseID=280617
Singapore: http://www.wipo.int/branddb/en/showData.jsp?ID=SGTM.40201617724X.TM
United States: http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=86970879&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
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Cant't wait to hear more at E3, love Bethesda's rpgs even though im really hoping to hearing more about a new engine soon.
Almost same time frame with RDR2 release ? No way or Betesheda would be incredibly confident in their title.
Yep. SMO/ACO and a few others didn't stop Bethesda from releasing TEW2 and Wolfenstein 2 last October. I believe that Bethesda is the one publisher that won't care or fear RDR 2.
I mean not every player who like both games will be able to buy both games in a short time frame.
Because a game launch and sales matters for studios, should not Betesheda go for December or next year instead, period without big game competitors ?
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They would be basically sending their new IP to die.
A new Bethesda game makes my whole year better. Every time they release a new game it's like I'm living a special time of my life, as dumb as that may sound. Their formula always delivers for me, both in hype and the actual product.
Eh, dump enough money into ads that include the phrase, 'From the makers of Skyrim', and I'd say Starfield could stand up to Red Dead reasonably well. Particularly since they'll have the PC market to themselves.
To be clear, I'm not saying it'll outsell Red Dead by any means, but I think it still has the potential to do perfectly respectable numbers. Now, as for why they wouldn't shift the release to get it out of Red Dead's way and do better than 'respectable' numbers... Honestly, no idea, but that doesn't mean they'll move it--it certainly wouldn't be the first time a game company just said 'fuck it', and took on incredibly stiff release date competition.
You're right. They have done it before with Dishonored 2 and TEW2. If they do release it near it, I'd expect November or something to the like. At least a few weeks away from RDR2.
Not to mention they won't be competing with RDR 2 on PC, which has traditionally been a very strong market for BGS.
I obviously could be very wrong but Bethesda has released at least one game in the Fall for each year they've have a showcase at E3. Starfield seems to be the next game up. Only other game would be Doom 2 which I see as May 2019. Starfield will also be different enough to separate itself from RDR 2. Also, it's from Bethesda Game Studios which I think in of itself, people will want to play it.
RDR 2 will sell better than the original but it's NOT GTA. Also, Bethesda putting their game out a few weeks after RDR 2 also shows the confidence in the game.
I simply disagree. BGS has enough loyal fans that will buy the game day one with or without RDR 2.
We'll see what happens but im fully expecting it to be given a long slot at the showcase and to release in November.
Naw, you're looking at two very different genres here. Some will opt for cowboys, others for aliens and ray guns. If both games rate well, most likely many will buy the other later once done with their first choice.
Most players enjoyed both Fallout and Skyrim, i think they will enjoy both Sicfi and Cowboy open worlds.
Players will be buzzy with RDR2 ; many won't start another open world when they are still playing RDR2.
For sales it's not the best period, but perhaps they have something groundbreaking most players will want to play; something miles better than Mass Effect Andromeda.
Oh boy. I was disappointed with Fallout 4, but not enough to stop a new BGS game from going straight to the top of my my most anticipated. Smash and Starfield in one year... oh boy.
Yeah, but depending on what Starfield looks like I'd be more likely to play it than RDR2. Space over cowboys. He's right. I'd get both but RDR2 wouldn't be my first choice if you created a game that was open world space opera.
Didn't they say like a year or two ago that the next Bethesda game would have a mobile game accompaniment just like Fallout Shelter? When either Hines or Howard were at E3 and speaking during Keighly's show.
After Fallout 4, I'm staying cautiously optimistic. Hope they prove me wrong and it's awesome.
Uhhh.. hmm. It's interesting to see different viewpoints.. I guess.
I don't think Starfield would face much problem releasing in the same month as RDR2. It certainly won't outsell RDR2, but let's not forget how huge and popular BGS games are either. We know that Fallout 4 shipped 12 million units on launch day and went on to become BGS' most successful title (though Skyrim Special Edition has probably changed that). Yeah, Starfield is a new ip, but all they need to do is use "From the makers of Skyrim and Fallout" just like Rockstar will use "From the makers of GTA V" for RDR2.
Yeah. Bethesda Game Studios is probably the only developer that can release a game around the same time as Rockstar without it hurting their sales much. And unlike RDR, their game will also be available on PC, which will certainly help the sales, especially since their games are very moddable and have great sales on PC. Old Skyrim has over 11 million owners just on PC (and Skyrim SE has another 5-6 million). Bethesda will be fine.
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What this guy said ^
Also, I believe BGS will develop and release a mobile game to tie-in with their next release. Like Fallout Shelter and Fallout 4. I think that's the situation we're looking at here.
No they're not the only developer. Lol
RDR2 is slated for October. Starfield could be a November game.
Maybe not the only developer, but definitely one of the few. I can see most other AAA open-world games' sales being very hurt if i they're released against Rockstar's games, but Bethesda's open-world games offer a different experience than Rockstar games and they have a huge following, too.
Speaking of Starfield, here's a random reddit 'leak'. I hope it's true, because that's almost exactly what I want from Starfield.
https://www.reddit.com/r/BethesdaSoftworks/comments/8cg8vn/information_on_starfield/
https://www.reddit.com/r/BethesdaSoftworks/comments/8cg8vn/information_on_starfield/
This is going to come across as a "my dad works for bethesda" post, but I won't name my source. You'll see a lot of this is true in May. I'll just get to the content and information I know and list it in bullet points:
- Heads at Bethesda have been noticing a rise in science fiction influenced content in the market (not just the video game market), so they're going to make a game of their own in this genre (they've always wanted to do this anyway, even Todd Howard has). They want to get ahead of games like Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen, and Beyond Good and Evil 2. They want to bundle a lot of their previous sci fi ideas into this game.
- The game is in fact called Starfield
- It is more like a space fantasy or opera setting instead of harder science fiction, it's like Star Wars, so there are fantasy themes in it that have naturally transferred over from their previous work
- You can make your own character, the game looks a lot like Fallout 4 but the animations aren't as janky (you can climb on buildings and terrain from a skill even)
- This game will use cutting edge procedural generation technology, a lot of the game mechanics rely on it
- There are 4 important planets in the game you can travel between in a system, 3 of them have procedural generated terrain and are fully sized, the other one is a big city planet and has a set map size (maybe around the size of Morrowind's map)
- On the galaxy map, there is a section of the map called The Unknown Regions where there are endless planets that are generated you can explore, they are fully sized. Planets in themselves have been described as planet sized "dungeons"
- Content on the planet is procedurally generated as well like aliens species, animals, locations, all of it is generated. You can find things as small as a camp, to something the size of a colony or city on the planets surface (city as in Skyrim sized city)
- There is a unique mechanic in the exploration side of the gameplay that if you discover a sapient alien species and catalogue it and successfully return the information to normal space (the 4 system starting area) you unlock that species as playable for future characters
- Your character is silent, and the character is not anyone special
- You choose what planet you want to start the game on, you can also choose a random planet which will spawn you on a generated planet in the unknown
- There are a lot of ships to buy, probably around 30. They can be from the size of an X-Wing to an Imperial Light Cruiser (you can have a small crew, i dont know the mechanics for this)
- Combat is similar to Fallout 4, but with better cover mechanic
- There are infinite weapons, comparable to Borderlands system of guns (there are melee weapons too)
- The settlement system is expanded, you can establish colonies on an empty plot of land on any planet. You can establish colonies in the unknown planets and populate them for income
- There are some ground vehicles like speeders and some transports, but nothing too large. There is nothing bigger than a garbage truck
- There are factions, but even they can be procedurally generated (because of the unknown region mechanic and what you can find in that area), you can also make your own faction
- You can't just join every faction but you can be in multiple at once
Hmmm. Some of that sounds good, but the words procedurally generated makes me itch. I'll have to see the presentation, end game, quest design...
No way in hell will it only be a mobile game. Not after the critique of their show last year and the big hype around BGS's new game. Pete Hines recently said they will have something for everyone, new games etc and they hope to deliver.
I don't recall him talking much about their 2017 show beforehand. The "hate" is gonna be insane if they show BGS'S new game and it's only mobile.
I don't recall him talking much about their 2017 show beforehand. The "hate" is gonna be insane if they show BGS'S new game and it's only mobile.
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