Spider-Man: Far From Home |Spoiler OT| Even dead, I'm the hero

Einchy · Jul 9, 2019

Ashhong said:
I don't fully understand the Asian dude. The HS news segment said people who blipped came back as if they were never gone. Why was this blipped dude ripped? Was it just an unsolved mystery?

Also, there was the HS footage of people returning to the exact same spot as they blipped from, but was the before and after both a pep rally? I cant remember now but it made it seem like they were never gone.

They talked about how everyone who got snapped came back the same way, which was weird to the people who were snapped because little kids (like that Asian guy) were now 5 years older. He was, like, 11 or something and now he's 16-ish.

The footage was of some kind of pep rally that was being recorded when the snapped happened and then 5 years later they were playing a basketball game, that was also being recorded, and people popped back in the middle of the court because that's where they were five years prior.

Halbrand · Jul 9, 2019

Shy said:

I had this exact thought lol

Shy · Jul 9, 2019

Drewton said:
I had this exact thought lol

VideogameVices · Jul 9, 2019

Shy said:
It's idiotic literalism.

nice weight loss + Wig.

Ashhong · Jul 9, 2019

Lotus said:
Are you talking about Brad? He wasn't snapped lol, he used to be younger than Peter, but in the 5 years he was gone he hit puberty and what not and is now Peter's age.

Man that's what I thought but I distinctly remember Ned saying along the lines of "how did he come back ripped after being blipped" and it got me confused

Einchy said:
They talked about how everyone who got snapped came back the same way, which was weird to the people who were snapped because little kids (like that Asian guy) were now 5 years older. He was, like, 11 or something and now he's 16-ish.

The footage was of some kind of pep rally that was being recorded when the snapped happened and then 5 years later they were playing a basketball game, that was also being recorded, and people popped back in the middle of the court because that's where they were five years prior.

I'll need to rewatch that scene with Ned. I swear he says Brad was blipped..must be mistaken.

Ah it was a basketball game. The cut to it was so quick I thought it was like seconds apart in their time. Gracias

flyingman · Jul 9, 2019

Ashhong said:
I don't fully understand the Asian dude. The HS news segment said people who blipped came back as if they were never gone. Why was this blipped dude ripped? Was it just an unsolved mystery?

Also, there was the HS footage of people returning to the exact same spot as they blipped from, but was the before and after both a pep rally? I cant remember now but it made it seem like they were never gone.

He is ripped for joke purposes to be gag rival to Peter against MJ.

ThorHammerstein · Jul 9, 2019

Einchy said:
They talked about how everyone who got snapped came back the same way, which was weird to the people who were snapped because little kids (like that Asian guy) were now 5 years older. He was, like, 11 or something and now he's 16-ish.

The footage was of some kind of pep rally that was being recorded when the snapped happened and then 5 years later they were playing a basketball game, that was also being recorded, and people popped back in the middle of the court because that's where they were five years prior.

I recall people saying this might have been the case prior to FFH coming out.
So with this actually being what happened, when people blipped back, would they still be in the cars (airplanes, boats, etc locations) or just in the previous location ie. falling to their deaths or blipping back on the highway etc?
Did Marvel ever comment on that?

TAJ · Jul 9, 2019

Cuburger said:
I think he has a line where he suggests his writer helped "create" Quentin Beck. It's not 100% confirmation, but it would solve the nitpick I've seen others complain about that Nick Fury/Talos should have been able to learn about the real Quentin Beck's history from their universe working for Tony Star on hologram tech. If Beck is essentially a fictional character all around, it would at least make it a bit more plausible that his fictional biography wouldn't get holes punched in it right away.

No, no, no. He still has the same face, the same fingerprints.
Giving a fake name is amateur hour shit.

Forkball said:
Beck being clean-shaven during the BARF demo means that he too grew a blip beard stay woke

The BARF demo was two years before the first snap.

Ichthyosaurus · Jul 9, 2019

ThorHammerstein said:
I recall people saying this might have been the case prior to FFH coming out.
So with this actually being what happened, when people blipped back, would they still be in the cars (airplanes, boats, etc locations) or just in the previous location ie. falling to their deaths or blipping back on the highway etc?
Did Marvel ever comment on that?

Don't expect anything substantial, or any details about the Accords (if they exist at all post-Snap). You will, however, get a good glimpse of the Accords in action on Agents of SHIELD.

takriel · Jul 9, 2019

Just rewatched Homecoming. It's so much worse compared to Far From Home. Might be one of the worst Spiderman movies on rewatch.

Ichthyosaurus · Jul 9, 2019

takriel said:
Just rewatched Homecoming. It's so much worse compared to Far From Home. Might be one of the worst Spiderman movies on rewatch.

You think it's worse than Spider-man 3?

Halbrand · Jul 9, 2019

Homecoming may still be my favorite

I think we can all agree Amazing Spider-Man 2 is the worst right?

ThorHammerstein · Jul 9, 2019

Ichthyosaurus said:
Don't expect anything substantial, or any details about the Accords (if they exist at all post-Snap). You will, however, get a good glimpse of the Accords in action on Agents of SHIELD.

The Socovia Accords?

ThorHammerstein · Jul 9, 2019

Drewton said:
Homecoming may still be my favorite

I think we can all agree Amazing Spider-Man 2 is the worst right?

Nah~ Spidey3 is worse than AS2. Much worse.

Ichthyosaurus · Jul 9, 2019

ThorHammerstein said:
The Socovia Accords?

Yeah.

Khanimus · Jul 9, 2019

ThorHammerstein said:
Nah~ Spidey3 is worse than AS2. Much worse.

Nope

Halbrand · Jul 9, 2019

I remember actually liking SM3 a lot when I was younger, and while it's not a good movie it has a lot more going for it than AS2. It's entertaining, I can remember the Venom theme better than most superhero music, there's moments that are genuinely emotional. AS2 is just awful throughout except for the death of Gwen Stacey, and worse considering the planned direction of the sequel and Peter's father returning.

Jombie · Jul 9, 2019

ThorHammerstein said:
Nah~ Spidey3 is worse than AS2. Much worse.

Spider-Man 3 has fun moments and some decent action, ASM2 is unwatchable.

Ichthyosaurus · Jul 9, 2019

Jombie said:
Spider-Man 3 has fun moments and some decent action, ASM2 is unwatchable.

Everything with the Rhino was a goofy delight.

DeltaRed · Jul 9, 2019

I was going to say Spidey 3 at least has Peter and Harry versus Sandman and Venom but then it reminded me it also has that terrible news reporter bit and the old butler guy.

Jombie · Jul 9, 2019

Ichthyosaurus said:
Everything with the Rhino was a goofy delight.

It just makes me feel bad for Paul Giamatti.

Deleted member 42055 · Jul 9, 2019

Finally caught it and maaaaan was this good* they can make as many Marvel movies as they want so long as they continue to tell stories so well. Please give me more actors the caliber of Jake too.

*SpiderVerse still GOAT Spidey film

LL_Decitrig · Jul 9, 2019

TAJ said:
That's just too much of a stretch. I'm not going to do the writers' work for them.

Thing is, you don't have to. If you don't know how something works out off-screen, just ignore it.

Dark_Castle · Jul 9, 2019

I think the decision to make Spiderman the "heir" to Iron Man is a mistake. I much prefer if Spiderman is his own thing, but now whenever I see Spiderman I see Iron Man lite. I know this movie is trying to establish Peter as a full-fledged avenger but I don't know, it feels like Tony is being brought up every 10 minutes and how Spiderman is going to be the next Iron Man. Blah

I have no interest in a third Spider man film at this point if it's going to be more of the same.

Ichthyosaurus · Jul 9, 2019

Dark_Castle said:
I think the decision to make Spiderman the "heir" to Iron Man is a mistake. I much prefer if Spiderman is his own thing, but now whenever I see Spiderman I see Iron Man lite. I know this movie is trying to establish Peter as a full-fledged avenger but I don't know, it feels like Tony is being brought up every 10 minutes and how Spiderman is going to be the next Iron Man. Blah

I have no interest in a third Spider man film at this point if it's going to be more of the same.

The past Spider-man films are reminiscent of his solo comics, while the MCU films are more like Marvel Team-Up. This is an aspect of Spider-man the films never explored, he teams up with everyone in Marvel. That's true to the character.

Donos · Jul 9, 2019

ThorHammerstein said:
I recall people saying this might have been the case prior to FFH coming out.
So with this actually being what happened, when people blipped back, would they still be in the cars (airplanes, boats, etc locations) or just in the previous location ie. falling to their deaths or blipping back on the highway etc?
Did Marvel ever comment on that?

That's something they are never going to flesh out because it's just to complicated, with to many questionmrks. Just expect that many many people died (again) when they bliped back....

Ichthyosaurus · Jul 9, 2019

Donos said:
That's something they are never going to flesh out because it's just to complicated, with to many questionmrks. Just expect that many many people died (again) when they bliped back....

It'd be The Leftovers Marvel style for that bleak examination lol

Callibretto · Jul 9, 2019

Donos said:
That's something they are never going to flesh out because it's just to complicated, with to many questionmrks. Just expect that many many people died (again) when they bliped back....

I think Feige handwave it in interview saying that Hulk is much smarter now and will make sure everyone returned safely. So people in plane will probably blip back on the ground or something

ThorHammerstein · Jul 9, 2019

Donos said:
That's something they are never going to flesh out because it's just to complicated, with to many questionmrks. Just expect that many many people died (again) when they bliped back....

I figured as much. I just remembered that was much discussed issue before EG came out.

Callibretto said:
I think Feige handwave it in interview saying that Hulk is much smarter now and will make sure everyone returned safely. So people in plane will probably blip back on the ground or something

Somewhere somehow someone will be pleased even with that.

xyla · Jul 9, 2019

Drewton said:
I think we can all agree Amazing Spider-Man 2 is the worst right?

Absolutely! Try watching it in the same sense you watch Batman & Robin - it's the same kind of dumb! It can be awesome bad if people wouldn't be so invested in this atm and I believe it will become a movie to remember for this exact reason. It's almost on Catwoman level but actually watchable.

CortexVortex · Jul 9, 2019

xyla said:
Absolutely! Try watching it in the same sense you watch Batman & Robin - it's the same kind of dumb! It can be awesome bad if people wouldn't be so invested in this atm and I believe it will become a movie to remember for this exact reason. It's almost on Catwoman level but actually watchable.

Yeah it's awful which is a shame because both Garfield and Stone deliver solid performances.

Dan Thunder · Jul 9, 2019

Einchy said:
They talked about how everyone who got snapped came back the same way, which was weird to the people who were snapped because little kids (like that Asian guy) were now 5 years older. He was, like, 11 or something and now he's 16-ish.

The footage was of some kind of pep rally that was being recorded when the snapped happened and then 5 years later they were playing a basketball game, that was also being recorded, and people popped back in the middle of the court because that's where they were five years prior.

Wonder what would have happened if people had blipped back into a position where someone else was standing?

Deleted member 2809 · Jul 9, 2019

Dan Thunder said:
Wonder what would have happened if people had blipped back into a position where someone else was standing?

The stones aren't dumb
People who blipped out of airplanes were blipped back in safe places
Although the ones that crashed in the planes because the pilot blipped.. well tough titties

Scrooge McDuck · Jul 9, 2019

ThorHammerstein said:
Somewhere somehow someone will be pleased even with that.

Yar, it's not like the Infinity Stones are inflexible piece of machinery. They're powerful magic thingies operated by willpower. If they worked like a magic genie, all Bruce had to do is wish for every blipped person to come back safely.

THErest · Jul 9, 2019

ThorHammerstein said:
I recall people saying this might have been the case prior to FFH coming out.
So with this actually being what happened, when people blipped back, would they still be in the cars (airplanes, boats, etc locations) or just in the previous location ie. falling to their deaths or blipping back on the highway etc?
Did Marvel ever comment on that?

Donos said:
That's something they are never going to flesh out because it's just to complicated, with to many questionmrks. Just expect that many many people died (again) when they bliped back....

Like, it's something that can easily be handwaved.

Consider that virtually every major time-travel story completely ignores that the Earth, solar system, and whole universe is in constant motion. So, like, in Back to the Future, the DeLorean arriving at the exact same physical space but in another time means that Marty gets stranded in space. Now, feel better about those people snapped from planes and shit.

Dan Thunder · Jul 9, 2019

Shugga said:
The stones aren't dumb
People who blipped out of airplanes were blipped back in safe places
Although the ones that crashed in the planes because the pilot blipped.. well tough titties

I was only kidding!

However, that would have been quite funny "Yes, I'm ali............FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!"

Dan Thunder · Jul 9, 2019

THErest said:
Like, it's something that can easily be handwaved.

Consider that virtually every major time-travel story completely ignores that the Earth, solar system, and whole universe is in constant motion. So, like, in Back to the Future, the DeLorean arriving at the exact same physical space but in another time means that Marty gets stranded in space. Now, feel better about those people snapped from planes and shit.

xyla · Jul 9, 2019

CortexVortex said:
Yeah it's awful which is a shame because both Garfield and Stone deliver solid performances.

Yep, that's what's throwing people off. The predecessor wasn't nearly as bad and the main actors and production values are sometimes okay. At least in the beginning. That's what people seem to remember right now - especially with a little bit of cognitive dissonance.

But logic and story in this film were always extremely bad. And I've never seen a hig budget movie missing the marks as much as the Osborne Corb where Harry talks to his secretary. It looks incredibly bad.

Pai Pai Master · Jul 9, 2019

ThorHammerstein said:
Nah~ Spidey3 is worse than AS2. Much worse.

No way lol spiderman 3 is still better than either ASM movie

MadScientist · Jul 9, 2019

I always assumed when the Hulk snapped to bring everyone back he thought "back safely" when thinking it. So those in airplanes, etc would be placed safely on the ground.

KillstealWolf · Jul 9, 2019

Sandman's plotline in SM3 alone puts it ahead of the Amazing Spiderman stuff.

Pai Pai Master · Jul 9, 2019

MadScientist said:
I always assumed when the Hulk snapped to bring everyone back he thought "back safely" when thinking it. So those in airplanes, etc would be placed safely on the ground.

That's the case according to the Endgame writers. Hulk specifically said "everyone goes home" which we can infer means anyone brought back was brought back in a safe place.

The snap back in Far From Home kinda contradicts Endgame, but its easy to let slide because it's just done for a funny joke.

GAMEPROFF · Jul 9, 2019

Maybe all of these students were nerds who had no live beside school.

DeltaRed · Jul 9, 2019

In the comics the Gauntlet makes you omnipresent/omnipotent and basically god so perhaps in the moment of a snap something similar happens and Banner/Thanos has a degree of perception that allows them to handle all these scenarios.

BioFan · Jul 9, 2019

Pai Pai Master said:
No way lol spiderman 3 is still better than either ASM movie

Agreed, while Spiderman 3 is my most disappointing Spiderman movie ever but is still much better than both ASM movies.

Pai Pai Master · Jul 9, 2019

DeltaRed said:
In the comics the Gauntlet makes you omnipresent/omnipotent and basically god so perhaps in the moment of a snap something similar happens and Banner/Thanos has a degree of perception that allows them to handle all these scenarios.

Basically yeah. It's shown that Thanos has an out of body experience the moment after his snap with Gamora but no real world time passes. Banner alludes to trying to bring Natasha back during the snap but no time actually passes on Earth, so it's likely that he had time to work with whatever forces were at play to make sure people who were un-dusted didn't just fall from the sky and die instantly, and such.

You could argue the school band and those students were safe in the gym so thats where they came back based on his "wish." Or it just doesnt really matter that much because it's just a silly gag and it doesnt need to break Endgame's internal logic.

mutantmagnet · Jul 9, 2019

THErest said:
Like, it's something that can easily be handwaved.

Consider that virtually every major time-travel story completely ignores that the Earth, solar system, and whole universe is in constant motion. So, like, in Back to the Future, the DeLorean arriving at the exact same physical space but in another time means that Marty gets stranded in space. Now, feel better about those people snapped from planes and shit.

Wouldn't quantum mechanics start to begin explaining that as plausible?

*shrugs*

THErest · Jul 9, 2019

mutantmagnet said:
Wouldn't quantum mechanics start to begin explaining that as plausible?

*shrugs*

That what is plausible?

Endgame seemed pretty clear that they could travel through time and space, if that's what you meant.

mutantmagnet · Jul 9, 2019

THErest said:
That what is plausible?

Endgame seemed pretty clear that they could travel through time and space, if that's what you meant.

The Delereon coming back to the same physical space on Earth.

Deleted member 41520 · Jul 9, 2019

TAJ said:
No, no, no. He still has the same face, the same fingerprints.
Giving a fake name is amateur hour shit.

But he showed up out of nowhere as some kind of superhero figure and gave his name from an "alternate Earth" as "Quentin Beck".

It's pretty likely it's not his real name. Either way, SHIELD was being run by two relatively numbskull Skrulls, so they wouldn't necessarily have detected him or run all necessary checks.

Spider-Man: Far From Home |Spoiler OT| Even dead, I'm the hero

Revenger

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account

Revenger

Revenger

User requested account closure

User-Requested Ban

Revenger

User requested account closure

One Winged Slayer