Spider-Man: Far From Home |Spoiler OT| Even dead, I'm the hero

gozu

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And nobody would have noticed the body going missing?

Movie villains are usually one-and-done. I think people tend to be overly expectant of repeat appearances, especially when, as here, they’ve gone through the main thematic point of the character already.
Indeed. When you're drawing 50 comics a year, you run out of ideas and that is a reason to re-use villains.
 

Ignatz Mouse

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A few pages back, somebody asked why this was set in Europe.

Thank god it was. Most MCU movies being shot on soundstages with CGI backdrops is a huge bore. This film looked pretty great in contrast.
 

Ragnorok64

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I saw it yesterday and it was enjoyable, but holy crap did the trailer give away way too much. Like all the key plot points aside from the after credits stingers were not surprising at all.
 
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Movie villains are usually one-and-done. I think people tend to be overly expectant of repeat appearances, especially when, as here, they’ve gone through the main thematic point of the character already.
Normally I'd agree but Sony is pushing this Sinister Six thing really hard. As much as the Spiderman movies are part of the MCU, they're also building towards their own thing - and if Spidey is going to face off against a team of six villains, there's no way Michael Keaton, Michael Mando and Jake Gyllenhaal won't make up half of that team.
 
Normally I'd agree but Sony is pushing this Sinister Six thing really hard. As much as the Spiderman movies are part of the MCU, they're also building towards their own thing - and if Spidey is going to face off against a team of six villains, there's no way Michael Keaton, Michael Mando and Jake Gyllenhaal won't make up half of that team.
The most recent iterations reported of the Sinister Six film idea didn't involve Spider-Man being in it.
 

Carn

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A few pages back, somebody asked why this was set in Europe.

Thank god it was. Most MCU movies being shot on soundstages with CGI backdrops is a huge bore. This film looked pretty great in contrast
Yeah they did well, only thing they cheated on was that little bit set in The Netherlands; that was a far cry from being Broek op Langendijk ;P
But I'm glad that it wasn't as bad as Eurotrip, I believe 95% of that movie was filmed in/around Prague :P
 

Ragnorok64

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Damn what trailers were you watching
Whichever one had MJ flatout say she figured out Peter was Spider-Man, showed the plane exploding, and all the shots of Mysterio fighting giant CG looking monsters while working with Shield. Also "I think Nick Fury just highjack our school trip" was definitely in a trailer. Oh yeah, and it would have been nice of they'd saved "Nick" showing up in their room and tranqing his friend for the actual movie.
 
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I like this. Apparently Quentin and his crew are keeping an eye on Peter throughout the movie.

And when the camera moves from the doorway to the rooftop before the heart to heart they have, it's supposedly following Quentin's silhouette as he is walking in-costume behind the projection.
 

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Whichever one had MJ flatout say she figured out Peter was Spider-Man, showed the plane exploding, and all the shots of Mysterio fighting giant CG looking monsters while working with Shield. Also "I think Nick Fury just highjack our school trip" was definitely in a trailer. Oh yeah, and it would have been nice of they'd saved "Nick" showing up in their room and tranqing his friend for the actual movie.
I'm struggling to see what huge spoiler is revealed in any of that. There are huge monsters and the mcguffin is that Beck (aka Mysterio) fights them, and Peter only gets involved because Nick keeps nagging him to step up.

A plane explodes just after everybody is told to get on board. Michelle obviously suspects Peter is Spider-Man. Because she's been watching him, and she's not utterly stupid.

I've not yet seen the film, but from what I've read (the whole plot) this is no spoiler.
 

Ragnorok64

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I'm struggling to see what huge spoiler is revealed in any of that. There are huge monsters and the mcguffin is that Beck (aka Mysterio) fights them, and Peter only gets involved because Nick keeps nagging him to step up.

A plane explodes just after everybody is told to get on board. Michelle obviously suspects Peter is Spider-Man. Because she's been watching him, and she's not utterly stupid.

I've not yet seen the film, but from what I've read (the whole plot) this is no spoiler.
I don't recall using the term "huge spoiler." That's not what McGuffin means. I mean it was pretty likely that Mysterio was going to flip but there was always a chance they could have tried to pull a Captain Marvel with the expected villain but when you see Mysterio fighting giant CG monsters and telling Shield he's from an alternate Earth it because pretty clear how that was gonna go down.

These are simply plot points that I would have had greater enjoyment from the film by not knowing. The Endgame trailers were great compared to the Far From Home ones.
 

Lagamorph

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I think that was one of my favourite post-credit scenes of any MCU movie.

Just an insane "Oh damn!" moment.
Followed by an "Oh damn!!!!!" moment.
 

Ragnorok64

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Okay. But I hope you do realise that trailers exist to persuade people to watch the film. A lot of people have seen the film, so maybe this whole "not knowing" thing doesn't count for much. Would "not knowing" about gravity make your future life more fun?
I can see that you are desperately struggling to make a point of some sort, but this is pathetic. What are you trying to say?

Because asking me if I know why trailers exist and making weird hypotheticals about gravity isn't communicating much. If you have something to say, say it.
 

Prismatico

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Okay. But I hope you do realise that trailers exist to persuade people to watch the film. A lot of people have seen the film, so maybe this whole "not knowing" thing doesn't count for much. Would "not knowing" about gravity make your future life more fun?
Trailers exist yes, but that doesn't mean everyone pays attention to them as a deciding factor in what to see, this is MCU Spider-Man after all.

And it's perfectly valid to feel that they show too much, as it was a common complaint for Homecoming as well.

That being said, I thought it was a bigger deal that the vocal lines in one of the TV commercials during the NBA Playoffs clearly implied Tony was gone. I still know people that haven't been able to see Endgame due to their location and/or current life circumstances.
 
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mightynine

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I like this. Apparently Quentin and his crew are keeping an eye on Peter throughout the movie.

And when the camera moves from the doorway to the rooftop before the heart to heart they have, it's supposedly following Quentin's silhouette as he is walking in-costume behind the projection.
I think the most noticeable one is when Peter and MJ are having the Boh conversation - there's a guy in the background, out of focus, but clearly watching them both and the shot lingers for a second after they walk out of frame.
 

Pachimari

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I can’t wait to rewatch this to keep an eye on all the background people lol.

Apparently, when Peter distracts everyone during the drone attack on the bus, to make them look out the windows, MJ is the only one not turning her head, and instead she keeps an eye on Peter.
 

LL_Decitrig

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I can see that you are desperately struggling to make a point of some sort, but this is pathetic. What are you trying to say?
My apologies. What I really want to say is that your personal concerns have no effect on the success of the film. As somebody who hasn't yet seen the film, I really appreciate the efforts to inform me about its contents. I want to know whether to watch the film, and the trailers play a part in that decision.

Trailers exist yes, but that doesn't mean everyone pays attention to them as a deciding factor in what to see, this is MCU Spider-Man after all.

And it's perfectly valid to feel that they show to much, as it was a common complaint for Homecoming as well.

That being said, I thought it was a bigger deal that the vocal lines in one of the TV commercials during the NBA Playoffs clearly implied Tony was gone. I still know people that haven't been able to see Endgame due to their location and/or current life circumstances.
Well really, it's not such a big deal, is it? I haven't yet seen Ant Man and The Wasp, or any of the Iron Man films. I still enjoyed all the other films, particularly the ones featuring Iron Man. Why not? Robert Downey is one of my favourite actors.

But this is a Spider-Man film. He's far more important than anybody we've seen in the he MCU so far. He's the single most loved superhero on earth (though to be honest, maybe Steve and Tony have come close, such is the magic of MCU). Tony is dead. What kind of nutcase would you need to be to think you can ignore the facts?
 
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It sounded like they envisioned it as a Suicide Squad-type thing.
Not sure I buy that at all. The Sinister Six isn't some Suicide Squad knockoff. They don't work for the government, they don't get forced into working together, they're not even an ongoing "team" ... They're a bunch of Spidey villains that are so fed up of losing to him that they team up to take him out.

Which they'll inevitably fail to do because Spidey is Spidey and by the time he's established enough to have multiple villains ganging up on him he ain't losing to shit.
 
Isn’t that old news and back when Drew Goddard was attached to direct, before Sony shitcanned the project?
The most recent mention of it from Pascal has her still wanting Goddard to do it.

Not sure I buy that at all. The Sinister Six isn't some Suicide Squad knockoff. They don't work for the government, they don't get forced into working together, they're not even an ongoing "team" ... They're a bunch of Spidey villains that are so fed up of losing to him that they team up to take him out.

Which they'll inevitably fail to do because Spidey is Spidey and by the time he's established enough to have multiple villains ganging up on him he ain't losing to shit.
Just like Venom isn’t a standalone hero with no connection to Spider-Man...