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Spider-Man: Miles Morales' newest update adds a ray tracing 60FPS mode; changes resolution, reflection quality and pedestrian density

Team_Feisar

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So does it look better than the DMC 5 SE performance RT-Mode? That one looked blurry as all hell on my 50" 4K TV
 

Manta_Breh

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Muitnorts said:
Time to light the Digital Foundry signal. The guys have their work cut out for them this gen.
That's really exciting news though I'll check it out later.
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Man, I cant even imagine the time and effort it takes to review, edit and put up these videos. Massive props to those guys. Legit hope they're taking care of themselves, stuff like this can cause a burnout.
 

rude

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What is the point in even playing games at launch anymore. Wait a few months and you're rewarded with a bevy of improvements in most cases.
 
Lifendz

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Got side tracked with Demon's Souls, but I'm going to have to dive back in to see how this looks. Good stuff, Insomniac.
 
stryke

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PERFORMANCE RT

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Moosichu said:
Demon's Souls uses the same temporal injection technique as Insomniac (see their DF interview with Digital Foundry). They just don't have DRS as well, so whilst Spiderman-Man can go above 1440p in performance mode, DS is locked there.
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Then I guess MM's aesthetic lends better to resolution drops, because even in fidelity, the game has a soft filmic look. This console gen has barely started and is already giving us results like those two games. These devices are amazing for the price.
 
Shopolic

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That's amazing!
I want something like this in more games, a 1080p/60fps mode with great graphics.
 
KORNdog

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Do you think games could have RT that scales bases on proximity? Much like LOD? So if spidey is sat on a pane of reflective glass you get the best looking RT...but if your're swinging around it dials back to not showing pedestrian shadows and lowers it's resolution.
 
Edge

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Great for everyone, but I will still stick with quality.

Their native 4K is the most impressive 4K I've ever seen and the first time I really thought 4K does make a huge difference. It's so natively crystal clear, it impresses me so much.


But great that they worked on something.

Now I would have some more important quality of life improvement ideas like finally adding a chromatic aberration toggle to the photo mode, since, I don't mind it actually, but it always stays activated even in photo mode which ruins a lot of photos so I had to deactivate it completely in the end, but I have no idea how to get this to Insomniac. 😅
 
KORNdog

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rude said:
What is the point in even playing games at launch anymore. Wait a few months and you're rewarded with a bevy of improvements in most cases.
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The best cases of this is when a game is "exclusive" to a platform. Has a bunch of technical issues and then ends up releasing on other platforms later all fixed with extras... It's like that first version was the beta test or something 😂
 
Zassimick

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Just another reason to hold off on buying games this generation. Could be worth it to experience some great benefits devs work to bring post-launch, plus probably saving a little money.

I enjoyed my time with this game. Got the platinum. Played my first run, the majority of my time, primarily in Performance mode. Played the NG+ in Fidelity mode and, except for the initial start or if I swapped back to Performance mode to see how different it was, I don't know if I can say I really disliked Fidelity mode. Having the ray-tracing and enhanced lighting really did make a difference in my experience.

After playing through the campaign with both modes, I'm as torn on them as I was before the game launched when I was unsure which mode to play on.
 
platocplx

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rude said:
What is the point in even playing games at launch anymore. Wait a few months and you're rewarded with a bevy of improvements in most cases.
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There is no point for most games others than you wanting to play on release day. But most games are better or more content rich within a year or first 6 months.
 
Falus

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Tried it. For me it's definitely more than 1080p. I usually hate 1080p due to softness. It's quite crisp
I will be wrong for for me it looks like fidelity is 4k. Performance 1600-1800 (which looks same as 4k) and this 1200-1400? Anyway. 60fps and raytracing. A god send
Update Spider-Man remaster plz !
 
nexus

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From those comparisons seems like the resolution dropped a good amount for it. I'm guessing it's not as noticeable when swinging around anyway.
 
robinium7

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I'm sure they'll update Spider-Man Remastered too, I mean they're running the same engine and everything.

Insomniac are ridiculous though. Getting this and SM:Remastered out for launch, 2 years after Spider-Man 2018, with Rift Apart also around the corner, plus still having the time to update this game with requested QoL features plus apparently also starting on the full Spider-Man sequel. How can one studio (technically two studios I know, but still) do so much?
 
Nightfall

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That's unexpected. I was so torn between performance and quality mode. Now? Have to retry it right away.
Insomniac are amazing. Their support for games is something else.
 
Booya_base

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What the hell!? This gen is going to be insane if we already have 60fps raytracing in huge open worlds on (basically) day 1. Insane and amazing, thanks Insomniac.
 
aevanhoe

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So, if I understand this correctly - Performance is 4K and no RT @ 60fps, Performance is Dynamic, less pedestrians and RT @ 60fps?

The text says that other than RT, Fidelity mode has other graphical improvements, I wonder what those are and if they are present in Performance RT.

(Haven't tried any of this, I will check it out tonight).
 
mdf/markus

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One more good looking graphics mode.
That will help me plenty in finding my preferred mode.

jk, props to them for patching that in.
 
platocplx

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Falus said:
Tried it. For me it's definitely more than 1080p. I usually hate 1080p due to softness. It's quite crisp
I will be wrong for for me it looks like fidelity is 4k. Performance 1600-1800 (which looks same as 4k) and this 1200-1400? Anyway. 60fps and raytracing. A god send
Update Spider-Man remaster plz !
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I wonder if they were experimenting with it and their temporal injection with the lower render that's pretty neat to hear looking forward to seeing what DF or others may say about it.
 
Slaythe

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Alright been testing it out.

Effectively it's dark magic, it looks roughly the same in motion, I tested it from my couch and pc monitor.

It seems LOD and draw distance was also tweaked to lower settings, but it's just a nitpick, definitely worthy compromise to get 60 fps.

I'm not sure it holds 60 as well as the default performance mode, but overall it's great.

It looks super solid, Spider-man still has reflections. Even his helmet still has RT. The dynamic effects still show up in reflections, I'm pretty happy.

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The IQ remains immaculate so it definitely either is higher than 1080p or they're using the best AA solution on the market.
 
JoeNut

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It's great that they do this but then when lots of people have already finished the game, it must kind of suck to know you beat it and didn't get the best experience possible.
 

bes.gen

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yeah with this mode added, i think there are no ps5 games i am playing at 30fps anymore.
it will be difficult to go back to it, when some demanding games late in gen runs at 30
 
Falus

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Tried more. Day and night. Insomniac are wizards. It's 100% more than 1080. Beside some shimmering far away it's quite crisp. Damn
 
Callibretto

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robinium7 said:
I'm sure they'll update Spider-Man Remastered too, I mean they're running the same engine and everything.

Insomniac are ridiculous though. Getting this and SM:Remastered out for launch, 2 years after Spider-Man 2018, with Rift Apart also around the corner, plus still having the time to update this game with requested QoL features plus apparently also starting on the full Spider-Man sequel. How can one studio (technically two studios I know, but still) do so much?
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I assume they named their studio insomniac for a reason?
 
Darkstorne

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rude said:
What is the point in even playing games at launch anymore. Wait a few months and you're rewarded with a bevy of improvements in most cases.
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You've always been better off waiting. More content via DLC/expansions, in a more stable game, at a fraction of the price. But you'll never get to participate in Era's enlightening hype-thruster OTs ever again.
 
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