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[Spoiler-Thread] Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
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The official OT writer Mr. Sam is afk atm and the official launch is Dec 14 and an OP isn't expected until even 1 week before launch, so I'm going to put up a spoiler thread in the meantime since the Special Preview was today and people have seen it and the other Special Preview is Dec 8/9
Mr. Sam if you put up an OT that is Open Spoilers feel free to close this thread.
I'm back, just not posting much lately. Thanks for the heads up.
I saw it today. It was good. Not mind blowing but good. Girlfriend wants to go see it again in a couple weeks, and I'll pick it up once it's out at home.
During the credits I was saying that my biggest nerd complaint from a spider-nerd point of view was that the most famous alternate universe spider-man wasn't in the movie and then they hit me with that after credits. Maybe for the sequel then.
During the credits I was saying that my biggest nerd complaint from a spider-nerd point of view was that the most famous alternate universe spider-man wasn't in the movie and then they hit me with that after credits. Maybe for the sequel then.
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So this is supposed to be a Miles movie, is he the bulk of the movie or is it Spider-Verse a majority of the time.
Or is it 50% miles / 50% spider verse
Or is it 50% miles / 50% spider verse
Definitely not Ultimate Spider-Man. It's more like 616 Spider-Man in a universe made just for the movie.
Yeah it looks like it's Lyla.
That said, young Madame Web is a thing in some continuities.
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These are all new universes in the movie that just happen to contain versions of characters similar to some we already know. It's not exactly 1610 or 616 Miles/Peter. Among other things, they established early on that Miles' universe was a new alternate universe by making Peter blonde like Ben Reilly and labeling the police as the PDNY (instead of the NYPD).
The Spider-man of this universe seems to me to take more after 616, but then the Goblin he was fighting takes after 1610. It's a mix and match.
A couple of thoughts from Saturday's screening:
Nic Cage was amazing in this, hell so was Spider-ham...but the rubik cube thing...hahaha
That Stan Lee cameo, my entire theater applauded it, it was a nice moment.
Overall, I walked out that with a smile on my face like I hadn't had in a long time, felt like the only thing missing was a J.K Simmons reprisal of Jonah.
Nic Cage was amazing in this, hell so was Spider-ham...but the rubik cube thing...hahaha
That Stan Lee cameo, my entire theater applauded it, it was a nice moment.
Oscar Isaac got a better Marvel role with that cameo as 2099.
aaaand that's the 2nd time Marvel kills off Mahershala Ali's character...who you could sympathize for...damn.
aaaand that's the 2nd time Marvel kills off Mahershala Ali's character...who you could sympathize for...damn.
Overall, I walked out that with a smile on my face like I hadn't had in a long time, felt like the only thing missing was a J.K Simmons reprisal of Jonah.
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That was Oscar as Miguel? I didn't even catch that! Sweet. I guess with that big a name behind the character he's for sure going to play a solid part in the next one. Just as I had hoped.
Went to a screening last night and not gonna lie, I teared up a little at that Stan cameo and during the dedication at the end. Very well done, Sony.
This is without a doubt the best Spider-Man movie ever.
And the 2099 2nd after-credits scene? Hilarious.
The whole thing was just wonderfully charming, funny, and heart-felt. Everything a spider-man movie should be.
Also, "hard boiled turtle slappers" is my new favourite insult.
And the 2099 2nd after-credits scene? Hilarious.
The whole thing was just wonderfully charming, funny, and heart-felt. Everything a spider-man movie should be.
Also, "hard boiled turtle slappers" is my new favourite insult.
Hmm? My understanding is that
He was the Peter Parker in Miles' universe who died
I'm not terribly well versed in Spider-Man lore but wasn't he referenced numerous times as Peter...?
Haha yea I'm confused. Blonde guy was definitely another Peter
Edit: just googled Ben Reily and I get it. I vaguely remember this storyline being adapted in the 90s animated Spider-Man .
Ben Reilly, in the comics, is the clone of Spider-Man who, at a certain point, is believed to be the REAL Peter Parker. Peter and MJ essentially retire and try to have a family and Ben becomes Spider-Man, dying his hair blond.
Obviously, he's not exactly Ben here but its a nod to it for sure.
Well, shows you how much I know, haha. Regardless, I thought it was a pretty nice surprise.
I was waiting for Madame Web to show up the entire movie. Aunt May chilling in the batcave with some tea was close enough.
Loved the movie and the use of Miguel was amazing. Somehow I completely forgot about him even though I beat Shattered Dimensions and watched the cartoon.
Loved the movie and the use of Miguel was amazing. Somehow I completely forgot about him even though I beat Shattered Dimensions and watched the cartoon.
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Definitely the best Spider-Man movie, though there are things I definitely didn't like and that I liked better in the other films.
For one thing, I didn't like just how abstract the last fight was (with the Kingpin). Also how did Miles' dad get there? Why was he the only one? Kinda convenient. Also convenient is how Miles instantly becomes super-competent the moment he gets over his insecurities. Also, as someone who read the comics I really hoped they didn't finish the fight with a venom strike, but I guess it's the first film so there's no helping it.
I immensely liked the scene where Miles sees Spider-Man in action versus the Green Goblin. There's such an air of competence about him, it reminded me of that scene in Superior Spider-Man when Peter finally comes back.
I wonder if the next films (I hope there are any) will go back to the Spider-Verse concept or just stay with Miles. I'd rather they stay with Miles but it might be a tough sale to have two concurrent "normal" Spider-Man film series. Also, Miles' comics don't really supply any good solo materials-- just storylines rudely aborted by horrendous crossovers (aside from the initial one). I haven't read Miles since a bit after the merge with the main universe so maybe I'm wrong.
For one thing, I didn't like just how abstract the last fight was (with the Kingpin). Also how did Miles' dad get there? Why was he the only one? Kinda convenient. Also convenient is how Miles instantly becomes super-competent the moment he gets over his insecurities. Also, as someone who read the comics I really hoped they didn't finish the fight with a venom strike, but I guess it's the first film so there's no helping it.
I immensely liked the scene where Miles sees Spider-Man in action versus the Green Goblin. There's such an air of competence about him, it reminded me of that scene in Superior Spider-Man when Peter finally comes back.
I wonder if the next films (I hope there are any) will go back to the Spider-Verse concept or just stay with Miles. I'd rather they stay with Miles but it might be a tough sale to have two concurrent "normal" Spider-Man film series. Also, Miles' comics don't really supply any good solo materials-- just storylines rudely aborted by horrendous crossovers (aside from the initial one). I haven't read Miles since a bit after the merge with the main universe so maybe I'm wrong.
Gwen arriving a week earlier and just let things happen is abit irresponsible of her considering she even managed to infiltrated Kingpin organization. Pretty weird her arriving a week earlier doesn't make any difference in the story. Unless of course they want to make it that she faked Peter Parker's death in this, but then that would push Miles sideways.
A really funny after credit of Spidey 2099 traveling to the 60s animation universe and landing in the pointing meme scene.
It's the kind of Spidey-people interaction I want to see more of in the sequel.
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Loved it. Wish we had gotten more of the other spider-people, but it was Miles' story, and it was a great one. The VA work was great, even for the more random characters like Spider-Noir, and Spider-Ham. Theater experience was great too. Jokes landed, and people were laughing a lot. Animation was amazing, and really, this was just an incredible movie. One of the best superhero films ever.
And the movie is incredibly accessible to non-comic readers. I don't read any of these, yet all the new spider-people were super charming, and I wanted to see more of them all.
Theater got really quiet during the Stan Lee cameo, and his and Kirby's memorial card in the credits. I kind of hope this is the last Lee cameo, because that was absolutely perfect, and I don't think they could have planed a better final cameo.
And that end sequence was absolutely hilarious.
And the movie is incredibly accessible to non-comic readers. I don't read any of these, yet all the new spider-people were super charming, and I wanted to see more of them all.
Theater got really quiet during the Stan Lee cameo, and his and Kirby's memorial card in the credits. I kind of hope this is the last Lee cameo, because that was absolutely perfect, and I don't think they could have planed a better final cameo.
And that end sequence was absolutely hilarious.
I think the biggest problem the film had was not enough development of most of the other Spider-Men. Part of me thinks that's just down to the runtime though, hard to imagine a movie like this being much longer given its main audience.
Anyway, something I was wondering. How did the other Spider-People know to visit Aunt May? If they had known nothing about Peter Parker then they would have surely gone to visit MJ first given they would have seen her on the news etc. I guess?
Anyway, something I was wondering. How did the other Spider-People know to visit Aunt May? If they had known nothing about Peter Parker then they would have surely gone to visit MJ first given they would have seen her on the news etc. I guess?
The other spider-men didn't need a ton of development, the film trusts the audience to get it after the first two 'so let's go back to the beginning, one last time' sequences. Spider-Man is the mantle passed to people within the multiverse who have a specific set of accidents and tragedies beset them. We just happened to be there for Miles while everyone else has been at it for years if not decades. There's more than enough there between noir and penny and gwen to understand their motivations and why they're initially skeptical and later accepting of miles.
We similarly didn't need a ton of backstory for Ock or Tombstone or Norman. They're all there to show Miles how outclassed he is, not to become individual sob stories the way the overloaded spider-man 3 or the shoemaker batman films were. We get a glimpse of motivation for Fisk and Prowler and that's plenty.
We similarly didn't need a ton of backstory for Ock or Tombstone or Norman. They're all there to show Miles how outclassed he is, not to become individual sob stories the way the overloaded spider-man 3 or the shoemaker batman films were. We get a glimpse of motivation for Fisk and Prowler and that's plenty.
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I feel like it's a super good, high budget cartoon arc - but with the gusto of a movie
Also, credit to the team for not bogging the movie down with technobable. Quick exposition moment with Doc Oc talking about other dimensions, and that's it. Spider-Man has a USB drive that will stop it, and that's it. The technical details were such a small part of the story, and I really liked that.
Side note, I don't know if Female Doc Oc was a thing, but I absolutely loved her reveal in the lab, not having any clue that it was coming.
Side note, I don't know if Female Doc Oc was a thing, but I absolutely loved her reveal in the lab, not having any clue that it was coming.
I love this film so much.
So many moments the whole audience laughed at.
Lots of moments that hit in the heart and could make you cry.
It was so bright and yet so dark.
It was 100% a Miles movie and made so lovable.
Yet it's also love letter to everything Spiderman related.
I just want more at the end of the day.
So many moments the whole audience laughed at.
Lots of moments that hit in the heart and could make you cry.
It was so bright and yet so dark.
It was 100% a Miles movie and made so lovable.
Yet it's also love letter to everything Spiderman related.
I just want more at the end of the day.
Sara Pichelli, the artist, was also in the contacts albeit in a different scene when he's scrolling through.
Some of the reality bending stuff was fun to see like Chance the Rapper on the poster in Miles' dorm having a "4" on his hat instead of the usual "3".
Side note: I loved how they utilized Aunt May in this film as like this Alfred esque character.
I missed the first 20 - 30 mins, I'm guessing it's just Peter Parker being killed by kingpin and giving his powers to miles?
Holy shit nic cage, Chris pine, Liev schreiber and other cool actors. I can't believe I did not recognise them.
Also while this is a great movie set in the spiderman universe, it is not the best spiderman movie because its to much of a deviation from the source material.
Holy shit nic cage, Chris pine, Liev schreiber and other cool actors. I can't believe I did not recognise them.
Also while this is a great movie set in the spiderman universe, it is not the best spiderman movie because its to much of a deviation from the source material.
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I think I saw a Clone High poster when they were in Times Square. Nice reference to Lord/Miller's first tv show.
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