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SPOILERS: Does anyone care about Kill Bill 2?

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Xzeon

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I was watching the new episode of Speechless and they dropped a Kill Bill reference. Which made me realise Kill Bill is one of the most referenced and parodied movies ever. That music cue thats known as the Kill Bill music is used constantly. Spongebob had an entire episode parodying Kill Bill. I've seen Kill Bill 1 like 5 times.

No one talks about Kill Bill 2.

I've seen Kill Bill 2 once. It sucked.

That cheesey opening monologue, the beginning with the wedding retcon, Bill learning the "super duper ultra death move" from some crazy old man, Uma Thurman getting clowned by a red neck with a shotgun, that ending with the truth serum, then she uses the "super duper ultra death move" on Bill in a terrible and really short fight, and she then takes her kid from a really comfortable life to go live in a shitty motel.

Kill Bill 2 sucks. I fucking hate it.

Kill Bill 1 is amazing, its iconic, everyone talks about it, its permeated pop culture.

No one cares about Kill Bill 2.
 
Volimar

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I don't think it sucks, but Vol. 1 was over the top amazing.

Wait which one had the Lucy Liu fight?
 
TheFireman

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It's one movie. It's kind of dumb to split them up when talking about them, because they're the same movie.

Even split up, they're both great. Pai Mei's temple and the ending come up pretty often in pulp culture too.
 
Tagyhag

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I don't think Kill Bill 2 sucked, 1 just had better pacing, oozed style, and 2 really missed the layup from 1 with Bill.

The final confrontation was very anticlimatic

That said, it was still a good film and that buried alive scene was haunting.
 
Burt

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wat

what

what the shit



what the shit
 

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uh.... Kill Bill 2 is the vastly superior movie to Kill Bill 1 lol
 
Rackham

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What retcon are you talking about?

I own the steelbook blurays for both. 1 is definitely better but it does have problems.
 

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Kill Bill 1 without 2 is the definition of style over substance. Which isn't bad per se, it's still a good action movie. 2 is just necessary for it to be even better.
 
Burt

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this take is so wrong it snapped me out of the orphanage scene in BR2049 and now i have to rewind it

under normal circumstances I would be in the LOTR hottake thread

but what the shit here
 
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I like vol 2 more than vol 1. I think it's overall a better movie with better developed characters.
The first one is basically an anime for people with low attention spans. It's all just superficial flash with little substance. It's also full of references itself. So it's like people second hand referencing stuff.
Vol 2 is where you actually get better characters. Not just the bride and Bill, but Budd and Elle as well.
Then you add all the smaller characters like Pai Mei and Bill's father. Shit, even the bar owner is more interesting than most characters in the vol 1.


The ending is fantastic. I also prefer the trailer fight than everything in vol1 besides the fight in the snow.

And I love vol1(even though it seems like I just completely shitted on it), but vol2 is clearly better.
 
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aerie

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I prefer 2, it has the more interesting dialogue, character arcs, and encounters even if the actual fighting isn't quite as stylized and cool. Also the buried alive scene was dope as fuck in the theatre.

Honestly, you should give Kill Bill part 2 another go.
 
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TheBeardedOne

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Mandius said:
Stop watching movies. They clearly aren't for you.
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hughesta said:
Kill Bill 2 is fucking incredible what on earth are you talking about
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Burt said:
wat

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what the shit
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Psychoward said:
uh.... Kill Bill 2 is the vastly superior movie to Kill Bill 1 lol
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Flaurehn said:
Part 2 is the better of the both IMO.
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I'm with these guys

Kill Bill Vol. 2 is easily the better of the two. The first was good, but the dialogue in the second was a lot better as was the movie as a whole. It was tighter and didn't have as much kung-fu or fighting, which I didn't love. I've never liked kung fu movies.

Well written, more interesting movie > Lots of fight scenes and stylish visuals (or substance over style if you will)
 

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Tagyhag said:
I don't think Kill Bill 2 sucked, 1 just had better pacing, oozed style, and 2 really missed the layup from 1 with Bill.

The final confrontation was very anticlimatic

That said, it was still a good film and that buried alive scene was haunting.
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wrong
 
Whitemex

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It wasn't as action packed as the first but the dialogue is incredible. The conversation with Bill at the end makes the movie for me
 
Aurc

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Volume 2 is still good. Seeing the Bride train with Pai Mei, and escape confinement to confront Elle Driver is very satisfying.

What is the "wedding retcon" you refer to?
 
Keldroc

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Tagyhag said:
I don't think Kill Bill 2 sucked, 1 just had better pacing, oozed style, and 2 really missed the layup from 1 with Bill.

The final confrontation was very anticlimatic

That said, it was still a good film and that buried alive scene was haunting.
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Yup, exactly this.

Whitemex said:
It wasn't as action packed as the first but the dialogue is incredible. The conversation with Bill at the end makes the movie for me
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What, the part where he completely botches what Superman is and how he's been portrayed for 80 years?

Nah. Volume 2 was a letdown.
 
TheBeardedOne

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My best friend was obsessed with Tarantino, and I remember going to see these with a group of excited friends. We both ended up liking Volume 2 better if I'm not mistaken.

Tarantino is known for his dialogue, and that's what stands out. Not kung-fu junk. (I'm not saying the first movie was bad by any means, but...)
 
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BorkBork

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I've always liked Kill Bill 2 more. Michael Madsen was actually good. The stuff with Darryl Hannah was super brutal. The exchange with David Carradine is fantastic. Everything is great.
 
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Vol 2 is an excellent movie. I still can't decide between the two. If I had to though, I'd choose 1, if only for the fight with the crazy 88 and Lucy Liu.
 
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If you want to look at Vol 2 and Vol 1 as separate movies than Vol 2 is a better movie because so much of character relationship development/revealed happens in Vol 2. It's not action heavy like Vol 1, but it is a better movie.
 
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Vol 2 is trash. I actually know no one irl who liked it even on their first watch. As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't exist
 
Hail Satan

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I loved it. Although I can understand why people dislike Kill Bill 2 when compared with the first. They seem like completely different genres. 1 is the kung fu movie and 2 is the spaghetti western.

Very different films but to me equally amazing.
 

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Honestly....the second Kill Bill is the only Tarantino movie I don't like.
 
Rackham

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I think OP should respond about the wedding retcon. No one seems to know what they're talking about.
 
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