You're already unlikely to get COVID if you wear a mask and maintain social distancing. Are you saying the vaccine does nothing on its own to reduce risk?
Oh wow. I didn't know that. So then the risk is substantially lower for everyone else I'm presuming (if the most susceptible people to the virus managed to keep from being infected)
Is your argument that you get vaxxed and stop following CDC guidelines? I'm not sure what you are looking for.
Feel free to do whatever you want I guess?
No, that is not my argument. My argument was that the vaccine substantially reduces the risk of infection (and therefore transmission). You kept harping on the figure I used (and at the same time wouldn't use your own) and I'm trying to understand what you are trying to argue. I asked you a question, and then you answered it with a question.
Ehh not really. It depends on what you mean by that. Healthcare workers are more likely to be appropriately protected, but also come across covid way more often. Hard to quantify when there are so many variables in play.
What's the actual risk if I, as a vaccinated person, spent 30 mins in a small room unmasked with someone also unmasked with covid-19? Probably a decent chance I'd acquire covid in that scenario. It's not an activity I'd like to do, even with the vaccine on board.
The vaccine substantially reduces your likelihood of contracting covid. You stated that you have a .01% chance of getting covid once vaccinated which is not true.
You are making far to strong a claim about the effectiveness of the vaccine which is the exact sort of arguement that is leading to people acting unsafely and not following CDC guidelines post vaccination.
.01% of people who were vaccinated have contracted covid over a 3-4 months window, but that has *loads* of factors at play including generally following CDC guidelines and a pretty short timeframe. Attributing that entire number to the vaccine is both untrue and could lead other to act against CDC guidelines thinking there is little chance of contracting the virus no matter what behavior they engage in.
The vaccine is wonderful and once you have it you can do LOTS of stuff you ought not do unvaccinated, but if you personally engage in behavior like going to packed bars unmasked you are not going to have a .01% chance of getting covid. Maybe once the numbers are down to Spring of 2020 levels and community transmission is low that might be true.
I'm talking about the average person going about their day-to-day life grocery shopping, ordering fast food, etc.
But in your hypothetical, I wouldn't say there's a "decent chance." There's a study being conducted to address this very question. But the suggestion is that the vaccine stops transmission (again, not definitive):
I didn't say anything about going to a packed bar or not wearing a mask. Those are assumptions that you are making. If anything, you should be glad that people are strongly advocating for getting vaccinated instead of worrying about what whatever "post vaccination" assumptions and implications are being made.
But like I just posted a little while ago, the evidence is highly suggestive that the vaccines do effectively stop transmission. Maybe I'm jumping the gun a bit but at least there's the suggestion.
I mean, you are actively and continually misconstruing a single study and making WILDLY stronger claims than anyone involved in public health like "vaccines do effectively stop transmission" which I don't think a single public health official has come close to claiming.
I have clarified my comment and said that it's looking like the vaccines do stop transmission. And as far as a public health expert on the subject:
Dr. Faucci:
Press Briefing by White House COVID-19 Response Team and Public Health Officials | The White House
Via Teleconference 11:05 A.M. EST MR. ZIENTS: Good morning, everybody. It’s been 27 days since the President launched
www.whitehouse.gov
Not comfortable with being a moron about America's public health, he feels the need to chime in about Canada
Can Canada please place Rogan on the no fly, no entry list for his affiliations and flirtations with white nationalism and therefore domestic terrorism watchlist
World: 3 million dead.
Rogan: Vitamin D tho. Stop the cold.
At least Matty could get it calling Doug Ford a piece of shit but ugh, Matty, don’t go on Joe Rogan, listen to your fans.
"Twitter won't allow discussion about Ivermectin." say thousands of people as they discuss Ivermectin on Twitter.
This dude is why I stopped giving Spotify any money. I've been using their webplayer with extensions that block all ads while I slowly acquire MP3s of everything that was in my library 100% and once I'm done with that I'm not giving them any more web trafic or touching any of their services again with a ten foot poll.
"Just asking questions!" always translates to "I won't believe the truth"
Sam and Niko are pretty classic conservatives. Not Trump supporters, at least not Niko that I know, but definitely pro second-amendment and libertarian in their politics. Not something that should really effect your enjoyment of their art though. It’s like—you’re never 100% in political agreement with politics of any other huge entertainers or visionary creators, and that’s ok.
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So Rogan has gone full anti-vaxer, again.
It's just exhausting, my family had to use the "you can't see us or get hugs" attack to get my sister and her boyfriend (Rogan listener) to get their first shots.
Same, I only use it to sleep anymore and should replace it.
It's just exhausting, my family had to use the "you can't see us or get hugs" attack to get my sister and her boyfriend (Rogan listener) to get their first shots.
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Joe Rogan, a man with 200 million listeners, is afraid of being silenced
On the latest episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, the comedian worries straight white men will one day not be allowed to talk. Yes, he seriously said that.
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Just like when Obama took everyone’s guns and AOC made cheeseburgers illegal.Joe Rogan, a man with 200 million listeners, is afraid of being silenced
On the latest episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, the comedian worries straight white men will one day not be allowed to talk. Yes, he seriously said that.
