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Square Enix removes offline play capability of PC version of Final Fantasy X/X-2 [UP: It was a bug; update rolled back]
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When I had the router switched off.
Turning the router back on - so that FFX can actually boot, fiddling with some online DRM-bypass settings in the Untitled mod, then turning the router off (ie. putting the desktop computer offline), then launching the game - seems to allow the game to boot up offline.
However, this means dealing with having the Untitled mod installed - not exactly the most intuitive solution.
EDIT: When I had been playing a few nights before, I had have had the router turned off before shutting the game down - it seems that the online check only happens during bootup?
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But you didn't go to Steam -> Go Offline.. to switch to Offline Mode at any point, right? Just touching the router? Offline Mode is how you're supposed to play Steam games offline, and many people are reporting that FFX/X-2 does not boot in Offline Mode
So you had an internet connection when you hit Play in Steam, then turned the internet off?
Someone in here reported it checks when you hit play/when the launcher begins to boot, and this thing certainly doesn't have Denuvo, I wouldn't be surprised if they only do a simple check when you hit Play/when the launcher boots and that mods don't factor in
It's easier for me to flick the power switch off on the router, than to click the "Offline Mode" switch in Steam.
I'm Australian - we have physical switches on our power sockets for turning things on and off!
But, yeah. Without any mods bypassing the checks, I can't get FFX to boot without an internet connection. It will boot with an internet connection.
The Untitled mod does allow for bypassing the online checks, it seems.
I'm Australian - we have physical switches on our power sockets for turning things on and off!
But, yeah. Without any mods bypassing the checks, I can't get FFX to boot without an internet connection. It will boot with an internet connection.
The Untitled mod does allow for bypassing the online checks, it seems.
Running it with Steam in Offline Mode does seem to get the launcher running, but prevents the game actually loading.
Different behavior to actually having no internet at all - where it'd just crash the launcher outright.
This MAY be latent behavior thanks to having to disable Untitled mod's bypasses, however. Maybe some of them still work for the launcher, but not the game itself? I dunno. Don't trust me or anyone else with that mod installed as a good reliable measure. :D
Different behavior to actually having no internet at all - where it'd just crash the launcher outright.
This MAY be latent behavior thanks to having to disable Untitled mod's bypasses, however. Maybe some of them still work for the launcher, but not the game itself? I dunno. Don't trust me or anyone else with that mod installed as a good reliable measure. :D
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Yeah. I was just asking since Offline Mode is how you're supposed to go offline long term on Steam. Online mode + a lost internet connection will eventually cause problems, so if someone is expecting to be offline for an extended period of time, they need to go into Offline Mode when they have an internet connection, and the reports say that FFX does not boot at all in Offline Mode
That's what other people are reporting as well in Offline Mode (launcher boots but game is not playable), but I do not know if they are also mod users, and some are also reporting the same crash-esque behavior you experience in Online Mode w/o internet
So yeah, it seems there's no way to boot FFX/X-2 without an internet connection. Maybe someone more knowledgeable like JaseC can chime in, but if a game is booting to a launcher but refusing to launch the game when Steam is in Offline Mode, that seems like SE added DRM and not anything to do with Steam's Offline Mode itself, otherwise the launcher should also refuse to launch
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What the fuck.
So much for hoping that they would eventually remove Denuvo from Deus Ex: Mankind Divided if they're willing to do something like this.
So much for hoping that they would eventually remove Denuvo from Deus Ex: Mankind Divided if they're willing to do something like this.
That's true for all DRM.
I just wish that it'd crash gracefully if you're just launching the game in Offline Mode. The way it is right now, it doesn't tell you WHY it crashed.
With the Internet outright disconnected, but with Steam running online, it at least tells you it struggled to sychronize online files. What files it's synchronizing is beyond me.
With the Internet outright disconnected, but with Steam running online, it at least tells you it struggled to sychronize online files. What files it's synchronizing is beyond me.
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Yeah, not only is it scummy to add DRM without telling anyone, it's doubly scummy to not even tell you that it's stopping you from playing due to DRM.
Say what you will about Denuvo, but at least they have the decency to tell me "fuck off, you can't play because you aren't connect to the internet"
If Steam is telling you the synching files thing, it's probably just Steam Cloud flipping it's shit b/c you're in Online Mode w/o an Internet connection and it can't sync saves, even though it should be able to in Online Mode
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If we roll back the previous version of the executables but keep the current version of steamapi.dll which was included with the latest patch, the game refuses to load.
If we used the original version (v1.0.0) of the steamapi.dll, SpecialK simply displays the nag screen and can't proceed any further since it's expecting the official steamapi.dll (since the previous version is considered unofficial)
Either way, Squeenix was fucking up legitimate PC players like they always did.
If we used the original version (v1.0.0) of the steamapi.dll, SpecialK simply displays the nag screen and can't proceed any further since it's expecting the official steamapi.dll (since the previous version is considered unofficial)
Either way, Squeenix was fucking up legitimate PC players like they always did.
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Couldn't people....pirate the game for three years?
Who is this gonna stop? Couldn't someone have done so already, or more crucially, just go for the version before this?
Clearly the issues the game had were not severe if this is the first update in nearly three years.
Who is this gonna stop? Couldn't someone have done so already, or more crucially, just go for the version before this?
Clearly the issues the game had were not severe if this is the first update in nearly three years.
So let me get this straight. Square refuses to acknowledge or patch a plethora of issues that are -- by all accounts -- pretty easy to address in their collection of piss-poor ports across various platforms. Square sells this particular game to people three years ago. Square still doesn't patch the laundry list of actual, extant issues elsewhere. Square patches this game with janky DRM and calls it a "bug fix," by and large punishing the community of people who legitimately purchased the game.
This is unbelievably scummy.
This is unbelievably scummy.
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Hey now FFIV is a good port of the DS version....
Sure it's not the incredible Complete Collection version but it still does the job well.
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They did actually add bug fixes apparently, they just added DRM and more issues along side them.
More post-launch support is always a good thing, but no one was clamoring for a patch like people are for Nier: A, and they didn't even tell us what they fixed
Shit, you're right. I thought IV was a shitty new art 2D version like V and VI, not like III (DS 3D remake -> mobile -> Steam)
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The combat in FFIV is locked to 15FPS for no reason (although you can unlock it via ini changes)
Pirates undoubtedly already have their cracked version, so what's even the point? Inconvenience your PC audience just for kicks?
Wow! This is just malice at this point!
S-E literally don't benefit from this at all; people have already pirated it!
This is literally them throwing a middle finger at their PC customers.
S-E literally don't benefit from this at all; people have already pirated it!
This is literally them throwing a middle finger at their PC customers.
I had problems with the update but uninstalling untitled and reinstalling the latest version fixed that for me, also it seems that reshade included in this had some problems.
Well yeah but I was talking art style wise and graphics. Actually I had no idea that you could change the FPS lol.
Oh eat shit Square. Why the fuck would you do this to a SINGLE PLAYER GAME THAT HAS BEEN OUT FOR 3 YEARS?!
That's the dumbest thing I ever read.
This only fucks over the paying customers as the people that pirated it did it most likely years ago already and won't have this problem.
I mean isnt it normal to remove DRM months after launch? Cause the protection gets cracked and it isn't doing what its supposed to anymore?
This has to be a test or something.
I otherwise don't get it.
I mean it's just an HD Remaster.
This only fucks over the paying customers as the people that pirated it did it most likely years ago already and won't have this problem.
I mean isnt it normal to remove DRM months after launch? Cause the protection gets cracked and it isn't doing what its supposed to anymore?
This has to be a test or something.
I otherwise don't get it.
I mean it's just an HD Remaster.
Great. And thanks to Valve's new review bomb detection, customers can rail all they want and Square doesn't have to give a single fuck.
Double great.
Double great.
Great. And thanks to Valve's new review bomb detection, customers can rail all they want and Square doesn't have to give a single fuck.
Double great.
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It's better than ill-informed people review bombing a game because of imaginary "always online DRM". Kinda like when people review bombed Sonic Mania because it had a bug preventing it booting offline.
It baffles me that Square Enix treats what you could argue is its most iconic and important franchise so poorly. All the myriad of issues with the older PS1 ports, Chrono Trigger, the less said about what they fucking did to FF6 the better.
Like, who is making these decisions? What the fuck are you people doing?
Like, who is making these decisions? What the fuck are you people doing?
Steam reviews are not bug trackers. The community forums exist for such feedback.
The community forums aren't here for that either. Please post your complaints far away. On Twitter. Far away to not bother us.
I would argue that reviews often include notices/complains about bugs and as so we all consider them valid.
However, in our case here, we are not discussing about a bug but about a "feature".
However, in our case here, we are not discussing about a bug but about a "feature".
Bugs, especially those that prevent you from playing the game, are a completely valid reason for bad reviews.
True. You don't post reviews about always online DRM to give feedback to the publishers. You do it to warn other potential buyers who take a glance at the store page.
... If a game isn't functionning as it should, then a bad review is absolutely justified. The purpose of reviews is literally to inform potential buyers about the qualities of a product (good or bad, depending on the game). Besides, reviews can be changed once the problem is fixed.
So no, it's absolutely not better by any stretch of the imagination.
We are very much discussing a bug. There is zero evidence of "always online DRM" being implemented in the game. Previously, the game would boot without the Steam API dll. It is now hooked into Steam, but they seem to have done it wrong. Hence the game is crashing in offline mode, much like other Japanese/Japanese published games that crashed in offline mode.
Has SE confirmed this or it is another assumption?
Even if it is not a "feature" it does not change the fact that the point that you made about reviews is false.
I guess there's a defense on ERA for everything.
Stealth added online DRM and shity business practices. Lovley.