Technical incompetence and "stealth added DRM" are wildly different things. Unless you think that Final Fantasy Type-0 crashing on Windows 10 was "anti-Windows 10 DRM" or something.
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Square Enix removes offline play capability of PC version of Final Fantasy X/X-2 [UP: It was a bug; update rolled back]
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Is it confirmed that it's really a drm, or not? The store page doesn't show added DRM description.
That's sickening. Have the game in my library and was planning to play it with mods. Good to know that it's possible to downgrade.
Doesn't Steam allow disabling auto updates to avoid this type of customer abuse?
Doesn't Steam allow disabling auto updates to avoid this type of customer abuse?
lmao SE is mad they cant taste success on pc like capcom and from soft. they will go epic store exxclusive.
Valve were the one who removed the ability to opt-out of updates while borking Half-Life 2 with an assortment of bugs, some borderline game breaking, they're not interested in fixing.
Possibly a Mistake
I'm 99% certain this is a bug.
The question is how long it will take S-E to patch it.
Whether it's a bug or intended DRM doesn't have any bearing on the end result for players who expected to play the game offline.
The question is how long it will take S-E to patch it.
Writing a review based on the product you receive is perfectly fine.
Whether it's a bug or intended DRM doesn't have any bearing on the end result for players who expected to play the game offline.
XIII and XIII-2 are both unstable disasters but the Lightning Returns port is actually very good and the definitive version of the game.
Maybe if they gave the game a solid sale price piracy wouldn't jump so high.
Adding drm does nothing of value for those who already paid.
I mean...it has to be because of that. right?
Adding drm does nothing of value for those who already paid.
I mean...it has to be because of that. right?
Isn't this the game where you have to mod it to access the Japanese voice track, that's actually already in the game files?!
At least Capcom when remaster something you know it will be 20€ or 30€, in a way the game can be accessible to everyone. Square prices their release randomly, FFXII whish is a simple remastered costs 50 fucking €, the same price FFXV with all dlcs released on PC. Romancing Saga 2 is 25€, Lost Sphear is again 50€ like a triple A release, I'm Setsuna is 40€, how can they hope to sell as much as Capcom does? The baffling thing is when they started porting the FF games on PC the prices were very accessible, FFXII was like 13€ if I remember correctly, than they sold many copies and went crazy and saw they could charge more.
Like Square cares about something like that. Using your own terms, they have net sales and profit 100 million bigger than Capcom counting only their gaming market. lol
There's no DRM info on the Steam Store page, which I think all always-online games have? Has anyone tried contact Square Enix?
Regarding reviews, are those being updated or removed if issues like this are fixed? Or dont people bother updating them with relevant information?
More likely a bug. I havnt heard of anyone adding online DRM to a single player only game about 3 years after its initial release. The update is also a small one (supposedly only fixes some smaller bugs), so its not a patch that brings new content to the game and try to breathe new life into it, or anything like that. If that was the case, maybe i could see them add DRM.
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Could be a bug, we can wait to see. I tried to boot the game. It worked first time, but controller support didn't work, so reset it, restarted it, and it crashed a couple of times. I am running Kaladien's mod, thankfully it has an autoupdate option, so I updated it and now it seemed to work fine.
However, I went offline on steam, and found that the game crashes even before the game selection menu pops up. Could be a bug, could be drm. We will see. I'm going to assume the former unless they never say anything or try to fix it. Hopefully they will respond soon.
However, I went offline on steam, and found that the game crashes even before the game selection menu pops up. Could be a bug, could be drm. We will see. I'm going to assume the former unless they never say anything or try to fix it. Hopefully they will respond soon.
Yes, they are. When a game description clearly states it has DRM denuvo on store page and you still buy it despite not wanting a game with DRM, it's stupid giving a negative review. Would be much better to not buy it at all if you want your voice heard.
In case it's confirmed that Square Enix stealthly added DRM after release that's scummy and deserves to be called out with a negative review.
This game went from not on my radar to must buy with this update. Keep doing your thing Square!
"ALWAYS ONLINE DRM!" on a game that does not in fact have always-online DRM is not. Kinda like those people who leave negative reviews complaining about FOV sliders on games that do in fact have FOV sliders.
lmao
Is that just now or that was the actual patch note for this last update?
No, not at all like that.
If a game doesn't work without an online connection, then from the consumer perspective it's always online. Whether that is by choice or by accident isn't actually relevant to the capabilities of the product.
It is wholly relevant when you consider how hysterical and paranoid and conspiracy-minded portions of Steam's userbase tend to be. The difference between noting accurately that a game is crashing for an unknown reason, and making (likely false) claims about always online DRM being inserted into a game is a very large one. Noting that Final Fantasy Type-0 crashes on Windows 10 is one thing. Claiming that Square Enix inserted anti-Windows 10 DRM into the game would be something very different. Steam's general community has a conspiracy-mongering problem. The way literally anything associated with DRM is handled is a good demonstration of this.
I tend to agree, but I don't think the new system will make distinction between these two cases.
The diagnosis of why being incorrect does not change much about the validity of a review that something doesn't work.
The amount of software piracy on PC is astounding. IIRC, more than 80% of the people who played World of Goo on PC did it with a pirated copy. Square Enix probably got the same statistic and then decided to act upon it.
What a dumb statement. Three years after the release of the game, when the game is available to pirates from three years, you put a drm so that legit owners can only play it while connected to the Internet. It makes sense.
Because that's what these reviews are for.
Imagine a product getting bad reviews because it does not work lol
Please tell me more
i don't think that Steam will think it's offtopic when people leave a negative review to a game that is stated to work offline but it doesn't. That is 100% a product being non functional.
If that's true, really cute of them to think this would stop piracy.
Give me a source, because this sounds like you mixed it up with something different.
The definitive version complete with breaking of mods and now with internet required!
But in 2019 who dont have a "always on" home internet connection? This drama is just stupid.
source for what? the 80%?
https://web.archive.org/web/20180315161750/http://2dboy.com/2008/11/13/90/
Well that's frustrating. Surely it's gotta be a bug since there's no point adding DRM to a 3 year old game.
I'd like to believe it'd get fixed but considering their track record with past ports...
Annoying it breaks mods too. Having to roll back to previous versions is kind of a pain since you have to play them with steam offline. :/
I'd like to believe it'd get fixed but considering their track record with past ports...
Annoying it breaks mods too. Having to roll back to previous versions is kind of a pain since you have to play them with steam offline. :/