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Stabbing in Sydney CBD, bystanders restrain attacker with milkcrate and chair
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The Project just reported that he may have white supremacist links. So the allahu akbar thing makes sense if he wants to cause trouble and more hatred.
I can absolutely empathise with what the bloke was presumably feeling, and totally understand his reaction; I imagine inwardly, many of those involved in pinning the assailant down felt the same. But the way he responded to that crisis could seriously have done more harm than good, and you could tell his presence was genuinely unwanted by all those telling him to "stop" and "back-off". Some of them even had to remove a hand from restraining the attacker to ward the bogan back - what if the attacker had broken free in that moment and hurt someone?
My concern isn't about protecting the attacker. It's about bystanders with 'hero complexes' endangering others by adding to the chaos.
True
"if someone wants to kill they will kill"
yeah, but they will be waayyy less effective
Dude give it a rest. He may have been slightly too aggressive but that's human and the fact is this is why you don't want good people with guns roaming the streets either. He caused no harm.
You can try and make a meme like the last poster made in the wake of a death and see how far that gets you here
Our attitudes and behaviour don't often match. It is hard to say how any of us would react to a situation like this. What I really doubt is he ran in thinking he was a hero. I doubt he was thinking about much at all, he probably couldn't think about much at all.
The victim who passed away was allegedly a 21 year old sex worker. RIP. I hope today's other victims can recover wholly.
Again, I wholly understand his response and it's not a rare one among people. In my work I've dealt with individuals like this regularly, and have also experienced firsthand how things can go severely south when individuals idiotically intervene, much in the manner of how this man was here.
I'm not going to lose sleep over it - the real villain of the story was caught. But this man's reaction is something I take huge personal issue with, due to personal anecdotes.
It's good that your argument is based on experience, that definitely gives it more merit.
However the video doesn't show us how the stabber was actually subdued, and I don't think it's unreasonable to assume a certain level of aggression was warranted in order to do that, considering he was armed with a knife and had demonstrated he could use it lethally and they were armed with a chair and plastic crate.
They were still short of breath speaking on camera so until further evidence shows up I'm going to assume the video was taken just as they managed to get him under control. Hormone levels are obviously still high at this point. They asked him to stop and within seconds he did.
Terrible to see, thank you to those people that stepped in and stopped this piece of shit. It looks like one person lost their life going by that article, RIP.
I wasn't looking for merit or to win an argument, I was explaining why I feel as I do. But keep fighting the good fight.
I don't believe he witnessed the murder. The murder took place at a residential property. It seems like he murdered a sex worker (who is currently unidentified), left and started attacking people on the street. Although, I assume they believe they witnessed a murder or at the very least, an absolutely horrific scene. It might seem a weird thing to say, but the public who witnessed all of this and stopped him are victims too.
Nobody knows how we will react to situations like this. It is like in hostage situations where people flee, social media labels them cowards. None of those people know how they will respond to a situation like that. Nobody knows how they will respond to a situation like this. When shit hits the fan we aren't as in control as we like to think we are in high pressure, alien situations. I don't blame the guy at all, we don't know anything about him or his background. If he lost someone he loved to a violent crime or stabbing or anything else. For the sake of empathy I would hope people really don't rush to conclusions. Once the adrenaline of all this situation wears off, they will all have a lot to deal with and work through.
I meant "argument" in the sense of claim or opinion. Either way I apologize if I was argumentative.
Yep. White supremacist shit on the usb he was carrying. I mean it was fairly obvious why he yelled allahu akbar and it was to stir shit up with conservatives but I wonder how much the media will report his real beliefs. I know the project already did but it hasn't got the best tv ratings.
The link you attached doesn't say he was a white supremacist at all. It mentions he was shouting allah akbar but has no connection to terrorism. And he had things relating to the attack in New Zealand on his usb.