Same! The Crew 2 is my first purchase. I almost jumped on The Division 2 but I'd really wanna play with buddies and all my friends are on console.
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Same! The Crew 2 is my first purchase. I almost jumped on The Division 2 but I'd really wanna play with buddies and all my friends are on console.
I have TD2 on Xbox, but the difficulty spikes ruined it for me really early on.
Anyone else been getting constant disconnects/lah with the stadia controller lately? Like usually happens on game start up and maybe 10 mins into a session. This never used to be an issue(wired CCU, 5ghz) so I'm thinking it's just network congestion because of the virus.
I've seen quite a few people on r/stadia complain of the same thing, i'd say it's probably a Covid-19 related issue.
Yes, you are.
You can never go back!
*Ahem* Anyway, I've found myself playing a ton of The Crew 2. Its been ages since I played a racing game, let alone one of these open-world types. They usually aren't my thing.
I really like it though. Its a great game for 'just dicking about' in. I've spent quite a lot of time just exploring the map, finding hidden caches, and doing the non-race stuff like Driveaways, speed traps and photo-ops, as well as just taking in the scenery. Its a really great way to just chill out and do whatever takes my fancy.
Yeah, that's exactly what I want it for. AI played a little of the first game and all I really did was exploring and sightseeing.
Watched it and it almost seems like they walk intentionally into walls etc. Reminded me of playing a FPS (Unreal Tournament) for the first time on a console (PS2). Seriously seems like there is something off, because that is totally not comparable to my experience, even though all the games (Rage2 / Wolfenstein: Young Blood / Doom: Eternal) suffer from that weird smoothing, but doesn't seem to be directly a latency issue. Maybe that feature doesn't translate well into game streaming and is somewhat essential on how they setup the input system?
I picked up the premiere edition for 99 bucks with the sale - my first Stadia game ended up being Borderlands 3. Seems like it has some random hitches every now and then but honestly pretty impressed otherwise!
I don't know how active the multi is for Borderlands - it seems the platform has lots of empty multiplayer lobbies but you can add me @Sleevs#7435. I just started Borderlands 3 so I'd be down for playing it whenever!
I don't know how active the multi is for Borderlands - it seems the platform has lots of empty multiplayer lobbies but you can add me @Sleevs#7435. I just started Borderlands 3 so I'd be down for playing it whenever!
Ya Borderlands is known for those weird hiccups. Some mentioned it would get better after a few minutes after playing? Also heard that some feel that the games looks and feels a lot better since yesterday. Maybe the updated, don't know. Only played it after the release, but refunded it. But did feel a lot better than my base PS4 version, especially the menu.
Totally... but it has been like this in every Stadia review by them.
I have all of the consoles and Stadia, and now almost want to buy Doom Eternal on Stadia instead of the others just out of curiosity. I have about £70 worth of Google Play Store credit, so could just use that. What are the rules on refunds with Stadia, is it no questions asked within 2 hours of gameplay?
You can refund within 2 weeks if your playtime is under 2 hours. Just 5 quick clicks. Profile->Transaction History->Doom->Request Refund->Approve. First thing you should be doing is, set the sensitivity a bit higher and reduce smoothing a lot. There is just something off with ID tech games as of now imho.
Are you playing on PC or over CC Ultra with the controller? (or a mixture of both)
I played it on CCU but didn't feel very good. Still a lot better than in the DF video though. (after I played around with the settings) After playing on PC, i didn't go back though, was just a lot better for me. Struggled with some enemies on CCU, not on PC with M+K.
I wouldn't go that far, Dark1x has said multiple times on this forums about how he is a fan of physical media not a fan of streaming. But we all have personal options and they are very professional in their videos.
Maybe they are not near a Data center? I do agree that my experience with Stadia is never reflected on what is shown in their videos. Personally do not own Doom so my opinion on that video is moot.
Work is crushing me atm, so thanks for the heads up I do not have the energy today to post in what will be inevitably another circle-jerk anti Stadia thread here.
This thread should know that I'm a big user/fan of Stadia but, even so... what we consider 'flawless' or 'ideal' differs from person to person. We know that there is inherent latency with streaming. It's physics. It's always gonna be there. Some of us can work with that and, I'd say for most people honestly, it's never going to be a problem. But DF is a tech centred site and they report the numbers. They do interject personality and anecdotal experience with that ('it feels x' or 'it looks like z') but the fact is they do the tests are report what they show.
Latency is fine for me in practice when I use Stadia but it is there. I haven't tried Doom on Stadia honestly (I bought it elsewhere) but I can imagine how the added latency of streaming would be problematic for that type of game if you're senstive to it.
I noticed that as well. It seems funny to me when Killzone 2 has 200+ ms of latency and gameplay doesn't look like that.
Yeah, it's just a real pain with streaming. It's the poster child for YMMV, and if it's not working for you, there isn't much you can do about it.
Strange, the issue you are describing (perfect connection until ~10 minutes into session, then unbearable lag after a short freeze), is exactly what I experience when I use an HDMI cable from my chromebook to my TV. If I play on the chromebook, I don't get that issue. Very strange.
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Strange, since their results don't match most of the people in this thread's results.
It's not strange. The posters in this thread don't get paid to review the technical details of hardware and software for a living. The writers at DF do.
What results?
If you have high-framerate side-by-side video comparisons of Stadia and other platforms that show something quite different to what DF present, then I'd be interested in seeing those, and I suspect DF would be as well.
Or do you mean gut feeling?
Ya so first hand experience is false for everyone. Sure sure.
Well check some YT livestreams and check if you see someone moving around like they do in the DF video. It's like someone playing an FPS for the first time on console. This is just awful. Just to be sure, I'm not saying that they're doing it on purpose, but it could be just them based on their location or network issues on their side. So the result might be true for them and some other unlucky persons, but that doesn't mean it's for a majority. It's just a lot harder to measure this reliable than local hardware.
Quite obviously, I never said anything like that.
I'll quote you one more time, and let you get back to your thread.
I snagged a whole bunch of the Ubisoft ports. Division 2, Breakpoint, Crew 2 and Trials Rising for the same price they're going for on other platforms. I'm honestly impressed with the ports. And I'm actually enjoying Breakpoint. Crew 2 is impressing me the most for some reason, but they all feel identical in terms of smooth, polished 60 fps.
I'm not sure what your point here is. DF aren't pretending to be playing at a high level, and they have said in the past that their capture tools make playing a game more difficult. However, any footage where they're playing poorly (by your standards) isn't there to showcase their skills and it isn't even there to talk about latency, it's there to show you direct feed footage of what the game looks like.
The latency tests are the off-screen parts shot at 240FPS.
They're not trying to say that Stadia has so much latency it makes you play like they play.
Yes you are. You should be honest here. You were responding to a post saying "DF seems to have it out for Stadia" and your answer for that was "Totally... but it has been like this in every Stadia review by them". You're emphatically agreeing with the claim that DF intentionally badmouth Stadia. If you now want to change your mind and admit that this claim is bullshit, then that's nice, but don't pretend that wasn't what you were originally saying.
Especially Division 2 is a really really great port. The Crew 2 is actually only 30 fps, but very smooth. Hope they will get 60 fps as soon as 4k mode is live, which they already announced will be coming to a later date. (announced ahead of release). Not a fan of the Breakpoint port, it's really blurry. Seems to be due to "temporal injection" which you can't disable, that sucks. Made quite a difference on PC when i'ts deactivated. Beside that I'm enjoying that too. Assassins Creed: Odyssey is also a great port. But nothing beats Division 2 at the moment.
The point was that they're walking against walls like it's due to latency... I'm not expecting high end gaming. It's about responsiveness and they act like it's impossible to control, which might be true for them if they have issues on their side. I mean... they had been wrong on Stadia already at the beginning. You're acting like the off-screen test would be reliable for non-local hardware that could be affected by a lot of stuff, even just their location. Who says that their environment is ideal? I highly doubt it based on all of their Stadia videos. But that's also the downside of Stadia. Experience can differ heavily based on location etc.
No, I'm not and still doesn't mean on purpose. Hence I'm saying that it might be technical issues on their side. No enough with that bullshit.
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I've already said, that's not what they're doing. They're playing the game. The author might not be good at the game, but that's not necessary for this test. This is no claim in either the video or the article saying that latency was so bad that they couldn't perform basic movement.
I suspect that whatever you're thinking of, DF actually said something that was correct (or arguably correct) and you misunderstood them and assumed the worst, just like with this article.
Of course it's reliable. That's the results they got. They're not saying that everyone in the entire world will get the same results, they're presenting the results that they got. They're not invalid just because they're not universal.
What do you want them to do if their results are affected by location? Look up where the data centre is and move house?
Someone said that DF had it out for Stadia, and you agreed. That's what happened, it's in plain text. Anyone who's not sure can just scroll up and re-read it and see that you're lying now.
Great game and great port. (Beside 30fps only, but very stable) You could just buy it and decide within the next two weeks (up to 2 hours playtime) if you want to keep it. That would at least give you a bit more time to think about and try it out if it's your cup of tea.
Great game that I abandoned way too early as got it around a time of a lot of releases. Can easily recommend though as it's a gorgeous game, enjoyed my time with it and could tell there's a load (load) left. Kassandra is fab.
I feel like reviews in general are next to useless for streaming services. I've tried both Stadia and xCloud in at least 5 locations around the US, and I've had it range from unplayable artifacted mess to smooth, superior-to-local experiences and everything in between, depending on:
- location
- phone model
- internet provider
- WiFi network/router
So honestly, what am I supposed to get out of someone saying "at my house, with my phone, on my ISP, using my router, with these settings, the experience is X"? It's not at all comparable to local hardware, where the pixels and performance occuring at your house will be exactly the same as at my house. It's literally unreproducible.
- location
- phone model
- internet provider
- WiFi network/router
So honestly, what am I supposed to get out of someone saying "at my house, with my phone, on my ISP, using my router, with these settings, the experience is X"? It's not at all comparable to local hardware, where the pixels and performance occuring at your house will be exactly the same as at my house. It's literally unreproducible.
I'd agree if they were testing on highly variable configurations or something, but their tests do the best they can to give Stadia it's best shot at running well, aside from moving next-door to a datacenter. Their results should only misrepresent in Stadia's favor, if at all.
The same way their PC performance tests are interesting and useful, despite the fact that I myself might not have the exact same hardware configuration as their test rig.
Exactly, there will be great to terrible experiences with any streaming service. My issue here is you cannot even have a discussion about it as the thread will be derailed by the third post maximum and still can't comprehend why it is allowed. If there is no real interest in Stadia or streaming then the topic would just fall away quickly.
The change in technology that let's you switch your output medium on the fly is great and defiantly topic worthy. I am working a lot of hours due to this pandemic and a lot of that is waiting on other teams to accomplish their task so I can proceed.
I have been seamlessly playing Division 2 across my second monitor in Chrome, my Galaxy S9 and my 65" 4K HDR TV and it is in my opinion the best version of the game due to the great graphics, framerate, insane loading speeds and offers at least a unique experience with Stream Connect.
It's very frustrating that any discussion about that would be nuked from orbit, so ultimately the trolls win because nobody posts about it.
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That's why so many of us really want Google to hurry up and get Base tier out, so people can just try it for themselves.
There's no denying the service will vary from location-to-location, but when the opportunity cost of trying it out could be zero, why not just let people give it a go? If it works, well hooray for you!
They will have to have some kind of demo system in place, it would be pretty crazy to expect someone to buy a game without testing that their setup will work well with Stadia
Maybe I'm slow, but what is your first paragraph supposed to mean? They can only report from their own location, on their own ISP. How can that possibly provide me any meaningful data when I have a different ISP and live thousands of miles away?
Sure, I agree entirely.