It's realistically a paid beta and I hope anyone that has a preorder is aware of what is promised vs what will actually be available next week. It would be nicer if they were clearer that "Founders" basically means "we're keeping this small and locking it behind hardware to keep the install base down because we're not confident in it just yet" but it seems the majority of people shittalking this on the internet probably aren't getting one next week anyway.
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Stadia Reddit AMA: Stadia's Achievements will not have UI at launch; Family Sharing not at launch either
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It's realistically a paid beta and I hope anyone that has a preorder is aware of what is promised vs what will actually be available next week. It would be nicer if they were clearer that "Founders" basically means "we're keeping this small and locking it behind hardware to keep the install base down because we're not confident in it just yet" but it seems the majority of people shittalking this on the internet probably aren't getting one next week anyway.
Maybe you missed the point that it's impossible to play at launch without ordering extra hardware (Founder's/Premier)...every single person who plays in the next two weeks will have new hardware. They said that much from day 1.
We do know that there will be at least 26 games by year's end.
The closer it gets to launch the smaller the potential user base for Stadia gets.
No users with data caps
No certain States
No old ChromeCasts only CC Ultra
No wireless controller for non CC Ultra
No third party controllers on CC Ultra
No iPhones only can buy games on app
No family sharing
No 4K, HDR, or 5.1 Surround Sound on PC
No PC UI or built in UI in CC Ultra for buying games only phone app
No stream connect / couch coop
No save state share
No crowd play / audience joining games
No achievements
No buddy pass
No cross play
No list of free games for Stadia Pro yet
No users with data caps
No certain States
No old ChromeCasts only CC Ultra
No wireless controller for non CC Ultra
No third party controllers on CC Ultra
No iPhones only can buy games on app
No family sharing
No 4K, HDR, or 5.1 Surround Sound on PC
No PC UI or built in UI in CC Ultra for buying games only phone app
No stream connect / couch coop
No save state share
No crowd play / audience joining games
No achievements
No buddy pass
No cross play
No list of free games for Stadia Pro yet
The hilarious part of all these high profile releases coming out half-baked is what precipitated them in the first place: AGILE/SCRUM. Minimum Viable Product only really works if you have a well defined product that meets what people want, and if they screw that up... well, here we are.
They didn't have to hold these AMA's if that was their intention
So yeah, even as a pretty big defender of streaming in gaming (and I still am) this launch is seeming....real bad. So I had to just cancel my order of the founders edition. I'll defend the tech and the idea but I'm not going to sit here and defend Google's incredibly botched launch of this. Guess I'll re-evaluate where Stadia is sitting next year.
Yeah I have to agree. I'm keeping my pre-order because I believe the tech is there, and I've held out on getting Shadowkeep for Destiny because I wanted to play it on Stadia. So I'll be using that as my test bed and if it goes well, I'll grab Borderlands 3 (I've also held out on). I'm still excited for the future of Stadia, but this launch is definitely not shaping up to what I wanted it to be.
The store page seems to be pretty much a dedicated site it has all the info one would need.
They have obviously run into issues and delays which is why they have been so quiet. Having been a part of many deployments, this happens.
Many "informed" gamers know this is early access and just like to disrupt for the sake of it.
Google has not lied, done a recent AMA and anyone can still cancel without penalty.
Don't forget it's locked to a SPECIFIC phone-line on the Android side (believe the later Pixel line of phones) for mobile play, even though other ones theoretically can play it without issue.
Like, they say "Play anywhere!", but it's literally restricted in every way you could imagine.
Oof at sitting out Shadowkeep for this. Good to great chance you never make up the ground lost for this season's rewards unless you've been playing on something else and can cross save with Stadia. Or...wait...does Stadia support cross-save at all for D2?
I wonder if they'll have folder support. Big icons makes sense when you only have twelve games, but think how much of a mess this'll be in thirty years.
How big is the Stadia team?
cool. That's good news, but still...holding out on playing was a big mistake.
But I'll be able to play Football Manager with my 8 year old Macbook Air with loads of leagues running so for me that's all I need. The fact I can then continue to play all day whilst at work is brilliant.
I get why some people may want to wait until all these features are there or maybe never even ever bother playing cloud games, but if I waited for every platform to implement every feature I might ever want, then I'd never play games.
Google's biggest crime is their poor communication, they should have been more clear at the onset about the fact that this 'launch' is early access to an ever evolving service, it is apparent now, but I think when they initially announced the Founders packs they could have messaged it better.
They're releasing a platform with 11 old games, one new small exclusive, missing UI for some basic functionality, and only available with the hardware they're selling. The fact that it won't even work with your *existing* Chromecast Ultra is absurd, let alone the missing phone, tablet and desktop functionality. They're also charging you $10 a month just for the privilege of buying these 11 old games, at a price point that they've explicitly said will be the same as literally owning a physical boxed copy.
People here don't seem down on the concept streaming, they seem down on a product launch that's so rushed that a google employee is hand delivering dev hardware day of. A launch so rushed that you can't even purchase games through your browser and can do so on your phone.
wait what
not only do I need a phone, but it has to be android?
At launch at least. Think it said iOS support will come later. Likely along with the support for the other stuff.
I hope Steam makes a better streaming service.
I wanted to give Stadia a chance but they're making it pretty damn hard.
I wanted to give Stadia a chance but they're making it pretty damn hard.
I can see a Steam game streaming service. I can also see Valve insisting it runs on Linux, and requiring every game to be ported.
(I can also see them pulling that off)
(I can also see them pulling that off)
This is basically my biggest contention with this (and I think most people's, as you mentioned). There is the issue of caps right now, of course, but the bigger problems are the problems listed here right now at least.
It's also infuriating since they pushed for "play everywhere", when it's probably one of the most restrictive streaming platform compared to other cloud gaming services that are out there (both already and in testing phase).
wait.. I not really follow this stadia saga as i'm sure it not release in my country , but for on the go streaming you need to buy pixel 4? that 800 dollar phone to play stadia next week??
Continuing from closed thread (due to this thread existing) since I was mid-post...
I don't know (I haven't followed it much, I think I only really saw the initial presentation and some other news, then this mess) if they've indicated it would work like that to begin with. Maybe this other thread can speak to that better. My impression was that they were at least pretty clear on the Chromecast Ultra bit for TVs. Which, again, at least for these packs it does come with.
They've obviously kinda misrepresented what other devices you could use, though. It was first presented including iOS devices and then it quickly came out that they're extremely restricting that to certain Android ones (though at this point, that could understandably be due to not being able to support more).
I don't know (I haven't followed it much, I think I only really saw the initial presentation and some other news, then this mess) if they've indicated it would work like that to begin with. Maybe this other thread can speak to that better. My impression was that they were at least pretty clear on the Chromecast Ultra bit for TVs. Which, again, at least for these packs it does come with.
They've obviously kinda misrepresented what other devices you could use, though. It was first presented including iOS devices and then it quickly came out that they're extremely restricting that to certain Android ones (though at this point, that could understandably be due to not being able to support more).
It's barely a proof of concept at this point.
I'm waiting to hear that FEMA aid has been dispatched this is such a disaster.
You only pay the monthly fee if you want the 4k streaming option. Also other chromecast ultra will be supported after firmware update after launch. Same with other hardware.
My self, I'm getting it because I like cool tech stuff. Sure I'd like more games to be announced. But I never finished rise of the tomb raider and the new darksiders is coming Dec 6...and that's fine.
- At launch they support pixel phones
- At launch they support Desktop and Chrome OS (presumably through tablets)
- It's an early access launch, and every person they gave access is getting the Chromecast w/ the right firmware.. the update for existing firmware would presumably come soon
- There is a free version coming, and actually those paying $10 a month are supposed to get a discount on games
I totally get criticizing the launch lineup, but the sheer amount of people just spouting misinformation about the product proves people aren't actually discussing this in good faith.
That's been clear here since Stadia was announced.
Not much we can do, either mods will keep discussions on track when it launches or there will be no Stadia discussions here like it was for months on GAF when Xb1 was announced
Yeah and beyond that some of the statements they've made lead me to believe it's gonna be either 1080p or 4K, no 1440p or other resolutions even once 4K is ready for PC.
This reeks of one of the times management and engineers might not be on the same page on when something is launchable