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Stadia Reddit AMA: Stadia's Achievements will not have UI at launch; Family Sharing not at launch either
- Thread starter Yinyangfooey
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You should never buy something for what it could be, in the future.
I don't mind when it only costs 130$ I could have waited until next year and I could have tried it for nothing
That sucks; out of curiosity what is your fastest DC on this site, and what was the ping?
I'm guessing your closest datacenters are still in the US; what sucks is you might be just plain shit out of luck indefinitely with a tech like this. It may never be economically feasible for Google to have a low latency connection to your state. Or at the very least might be a long time.
That sucks; out of curiosity what is your fastest DC on this site, and what was the ping?
I'm guessing your closest datacenters are still in the US; what sucks is you might be just plain shit out of luck indefinitely with a tech like this. It may never be economically feasible for Google to have a low latency connection to your state. Or at the very least might be a long time.
LA 72ms
Yeah that's just not gonna work well. And it's hard to fathom them lowering that to Hawaii; low-latency satellite services might help but we don't really know yet when they'll come or if they'll really improve on something like the ping from Hawaii to the mainland.
Just buy two games you don't actually own and have to be online to play, nO bIG dEaL
It's weird how much better the Onlive pre launch pr cycle was.
I feel like Onlive was more feature complete at launch than what we're seeing here, too.
I am all aboard the streaming future but I am shocked at how bad Google's messaging has been.
I feel like Onlive was more feature complete at launch than what we're seeing here, too.
I am all aboard the streaming future but I am shocked at how bad Google's messaging has been.
Eh, I think that's true on a user interface level, but at the end of the day it's still a "games system" first and foremost. It needs to interact with the games in the way the games are expecting.
We'll see!
Because some people that actually understand what this is and how it works knows they can play it on their pc with any controller or mouse and kb before their controller comes in the mail
Is there a reason why they didnt just call this a beta test. I'm pretty sure it would have made no difference in sales since people love being the first to buy these things. ie. Amazons 'invitation only' product launches.
You know, you could just not launch until you have your ducks in a row. It's an option. Can't even use chromecast at launch lol
The store page has always said "early access" in a couple of places. They've also told people that in a few different pieces of marketing.
But they probably should have been more clear; put "EARLY ACCESS" in big bold letters near the "Ad to Cart" buttons and whatnot like Steam does.
So, uh, if there's no web UI to buy games for Stadia, and iPhone isn't supported... how would you actually *play* a Stadia game on your PC when it releases? Cuz I have the Founder stuff pre-ordered, but I only have a PC and an iPhone so... should I be cancelling?
That quote is guessing it won't be on the web. But if true, you could buy on the iPhone or Android app and play it on your computer.
The iPhone and Android apps are already out. What it isn't supported, is playing on the iPhone.
There's an iOS app.
And TBH, I'm not entirely convinced their won't be a web store. The actual question asked was about setting up/using a Chromecast. The answer might have not meant to mean that there wouldn't be a web UI.
So how do I play this on my MacBook at launch through Chrome? Will it just work with my bluetooth controllers? When is that feature out?
Don't understand value proposition or just don't want to? Stadia as of now is not the product they pitched, and I'm sure Google counted on a number of the preorders slipping past unsuspecting consumers as important information gets backfilled.
Yes it is the basic version of what they pitched
they said you could stream without a console or pc? Got it
Said you could stream to phones? Got it with pixel (more phones later)
said you could stream to your pc? Got it
said founders edition would start shipping on 19th. Got it
said you could play games without downloading them? Got it
I didn't know simple math and thinking ahead was considered super human 😲
You forgot to add, "we may provide you passenger seats later (after you already bought them)"
This is unbelievably sloppy, especially considering that Google is a large company with vast resources. They announced this so many months ago, and on top of that they've had years to scout the competition.
They originally announced that Stadia would be available in 2019. They might have felt it was more important to keep that promise, rather than announce a delay.
That's possible, but exactly how much do they have to restrict it? Some of the requirements are strange, such as limiting Wi-Fi controller connections to people playing on a Chromecast. If they're testing scenarios, then it would be help for them to allow a few more varied configurations, to observe how customers might try to use the product in the real world.
They've already restricted the number of users by selling a finite number of Founder's Editions, and they're not even shipping them all simultaneously. They should allow their (small) user base to run wild by allowing them to use different combinations of the supported devices.
They originally announced that Stadia would be available in 2019. They might have felt it was more important to keep that promise, rather than announce a delay.
That's possible, but exactly how much do they have to restrict it? Some of the requirements are strange, such as limiting Wi-Fi controller connections to people playing on a Chromecast. If they're testing scenarios, then it would be help for them to allow a few more varied configurations, to observe how customers might try to use the product in the real world.
They've already restricted the number of users by selling a finite number of Founder's Editions, and they're not even shipping them all simultaneously. They should allow their (small) user base to run wild by allowing them to use different combinations of the supported devices.
If social networking, music, video and email services (Inbox) aren't big enough for Google to maintain and improve, Stadia probably won't be either.
This sounds like every other recent Google 'soft-launch'.
(Allo, YouTube Music and Gaming, Hangouts, Inbox, Google+, Tasks, Podcasts).
Release minimum viable product to small audience with basic features missing, don't communicate concrete roadmap, update product at a slow pace (if at all), possibly close down product due to "lack of use" despite barely improving said product.
This is an interesting thread on similar shutdowns.
If Google can't get a lot of this stuff done at launch, don't assume that it'll come in the near future. And also don't assume that Google is actually serious about this long term. This isn't the first time Google has made a large upfront investment in something only to starve said product of resources.
This sounds like every other recent Google 'soft-launch'.
(Allo, YouTube Music and Gaming, Hangouts, Inbox, Google+, Tasks, Podcasts).
Release minimum viable product to small audience with basic features missing, don't communicate concrete roadmap, update product at a slow pace (if at all), possibly close down product due to "lack of use" despite barely improving said product.
This is an interesting thread on similar shutdowns.
If Google can't get a lot of this stuff done at launch, don't assume that it'll come in the near future. And also don't assume that Google is actually serious about this long term. This isn't the first time Google has made a large upfront investment in something only to starve said product of resources.
I'm pretty sure there is some sort of UI when you login to stadia. At least they showed it running on a tv using the Chromecast. You're not using the phone to cast a game to chrome running on pc.
I'm only planning on playing through PC (which should be the simplest possible use-case for Stadia), but if there's not actually a web interface I don't know how you'd actually login to *play* through PC.
Why defend Google and this less than half baked launch? Even if this service works flawlessly out of the gate it's got no killer app, a handful of games that have been out for a while, and it's entire user experience is unfinished. Who cares if it works if that's all there is?
I didn't know it was only going to have 12 games forever, will it still only have 12 games next year too?
I mean you are the one who said "in thirty years". Why you think Stadia will exist in 30 years I have no idea.
Maybe it will maybe it won't I don't care, I'll use it until whenever it lasts
If it lasts me a whole generation without having to upgrade my pc atleast it would have saved me money for 1 generation
Man with respect: you have to be a new fool or a sucker to pay money for this shit at launch and buy games at full price that only work on this service, which you can't actually sell off should things go poorly.
This shit is all risk for the gamer. I can't imagine anyone feeling confident.
This shit is all risk for the gamer. I can't imagine anyone feeling confident.
That remains to be seen if it will even last that long, or get all the games you want to play.
Literally no one knows what will or will not come to it. But the start isn't all that promising, tbh.
There's only 2 multiplatform games I want to play right now and it's getting both of them, if it doesn't get every major 3rd party release starting next year I'll be surprised
Remember when Mr. Stadia went on Giant Bomb at E3 and seemed like nothing more than a greasy snake oil salesman?
I remember.
I remember.
Even if you're not concerned about owning the games per se, which is something I can't fathom but that's about personal choices, I think maybe you should be interested in their monetary value: some of those old games may be worth hundreds for collectors. If your snes fails, they still hold their value. When stadia platform closes, you're left with absolutely nothing.
This is really weird?
How can they think this is an acceptable launch state?
This feels worse then Nintendo Switch Online launch and that is not a high bar to hit.
How can they think this is an acceptable launch state?
This feels worse then Nintendo Switch Online launch and that is not a high bar to hit.
Oh I'm not saying that there's no place to get information about Stadia.
Just that it's weird that there's no official dedicated site from Google, only a store page.
They said you could stream it on your chromecast - you can't. (only their Chromecast right now)
They said you could stream to phones. You can't (only their phone right now)
For a service that's all about "no need to invest in extra hardware", it's launching with the requirement to purchase extra hardware, if you wanna play it on your TV and / or phone.
Nobody is arguing that it won't come to Android / iOS / Chromecasts further down the line - it's simply embarassing that they're launching at this state.