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Stalker 2 is powered by Unreal Engine 5
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depends on how you define "released". there's one on steam for free already. and fortnite is coming to UE5 this year
If you go on the direct link to the image at the full 4K image it's just so crisp
I thought the same, honestly. The fact that is running on UE instead is news to me
feels like UE5 is UE4.xx with a different name and new features big enough to warrant a new marketing name. so moving to UE5 probably wasn't too hard beyond the usual caveats with moving to a new engine version
we knew it was on UE since its announcement, or there abouts
Well, as far as I undestand UE5 introduced better lighting engine and also some features similar to Creation Engine regarding open worlds.
There are 2 current gen games that impress me or maybe few more and other titles are looking good but it's going to take a couple of years to see more that is impossible on last gen.
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If you go on the direct link to the image at the full 4K image it's just so crisp
yea, lumen and nanite are new, but you can still use the more "traditional" methods as well. those won't be depreciated. they'll probably make a video on the new level streaming stuff soon, like they did Nanite and Lumen
If you go on the direct link to the image at the full 4K image it's just so crisp
It's unreal engine, it probably reaches this crispness after 5 stages of textures and 5 seconds loading. :P
Back when first rumours about S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 coming back were a thing in 2018, it was Epic's Sergey Galyonkin that first confirmed them, with "guess the engine!"
The original iteration of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 that was cancelled in... 2012, I think? when GSC folded was using the new version of the in-house XRay engine; however since that team scattered to the 4 winds (some went to 4A to work on Metro; the narrative director joined Farm 51 to make Chernobylite; part of the team became Vostok games and made "Fear the Wolves" battle royale and is still working on their MMO Survarium), the new hires that make up the new GSC were always likely to pick a more "standard" engine.
LOL? UE5 introduces a new rendering system Nanite and Lumen. Nanite is a new way of rendering geometry that allows infinite polygons....that's a BIG leap.
Nothing matches this currently...Ratchet and Clank comes close with 1 polygon per pixel.
hence why I think they decided to call it UE5. I'm not sure what you're getting at here
I'm getting at the fact that its a generational leap not UE4.XX. its game changing.
So they ported their game to UE5. Obviously the game wasn't developed from the ground up with the features though. Will be interested to see which features they use.
Even the Coalition said that the Early Access build of UE5 was pretty much production ready. Studios like them and GSC will likely have access to advanced builds beyond the early access build of UE5 along with dedicated support.
Hopefully, this is a good sign that we'll see much faster UE5 adoption than UE4. I guess the big thing Epic stressed was forward compatibility and how easy it was to transition UE 4.2X projects to UE5.
Hopefully, this is a good sign that we'll see much faster UE5 adoption than UE4. I guess the big thing Epic stressed was forward compatibility and how easy it was to transition UE 4.2X projects to UE5.
Nanite is an absolute must use.
Looking at the screenshot they posted all those are static meshes so almost certainly Nanite.
Dont know whether they will use Lumen though, its still pretty heavy to use so maybe they will use a different GI solution.
They said they were aiming for 60fps my guess either low/mid RayTraced GI or a different solution.
P.S Porting projects from UE4.X to UE5 is relatively pain free.
The days of UDK to UE4 are thing of the past this generation.
Nearly 50% of announced nextgen games at the beginning of the year were Unreal Engine titles.
I think UE5 will be adopted super fast.
Till other engines get a Nanite-esc solution for Static Meshes I think alot of devs are going to be opting to use it.
Legit the whole new pipeline of keeping your Highpoly makes it a very attractive engine.
The old way of basically throwing away all the highpoly work you do seems so archaic and the engine isnt even at .0 level for the public yet.
You know, there's a part of me that still looks at teh Stalker 2 E3 footage and goes "is this really gameplay????" and well, this explains a lot.
looks great, hope it delivers.
looks great, hope it delivers.
Why is that obvious? Are you under the assumption developers only got access to UE5 when the public did with the alpha?
nanite will be useful, but I don't think it will see too much use outside of select objects. making such high poly static assets requires time that you won't see much outside of AAA devs. and even then, do you need such a high poly asset?
Even low poly objects benefit from Nanite.
So literally any and every static mesh might as well be Nanite powered.
LODs cost more than just loading the asset and letting Nanite handle it....regardless of polycount.
P.S Most games actually have pretty highpoly assets that get thrown away in exchange for lowpolys with normals.
Nanite eliminates the need for Normals at all.
Make your low, high, bake like 3 textures and put the highpoly in the engine.
Because Stalker 2 has likely been indevelopment for 3-4 years minimum, and UE5 features such as Lumin and Nanite hadn't been released to devs when it was first shown on PS5 a year ago...Porting the game to UE5 doesn't mean that the game was actually developed with most of the UE5 features in mind. Having said that, I am sure teh game will benefit from it. It also has RT features, so interested to see which ones it has been built with.
Wat are the meaningful differences for the end user, apart from (i'm assuming) performance gains?
Nothing much. not even sure if we'll get performance gains yet. maybe with the temporal super resolution
Really gonna need a primer because this is an instant purchase if its as good as that trailer implies. STALKER is supposed to be brutal right?
Try importing a 100.000.000 polys model in UE4. then switch to UE5 using Nanite and tell us how it went
given they started with UE4, I doubt they bothered to try that. and I interpreted "end user" as the player. so I might have misinterpreted the post
Well, I assume they are switching engines to have some kind of advantage.
At the very least i'd imagine they'll want to convert all the existing static geometry to Nanite, which basically means the number of polygons in a scene doesn't affect performances. This is free performance gains for the end user.
GI would be amazing, but i am not sure how feasible it is to implement Lumen at this stage of development.
Unlike Nanite, it isn't free and i'd assume they already did lighting the traditional way for most of the game.
Nope, you're correct. I figured it benefits the devs with new/easier tools. But what are we (the players) getting out of it?
I don't suppose they rewrite their complete game-logic around the UE5 benefits. Way to late in development for that.
Technically, don't think there's a huge difference to making, iterating or optimizing game logic between UE4 and UE5 so on that front, I doubt there'd anyway be a huge difference.
As to the original question, the mileage will wary a ton so I don't think anyone can say for sure:
- graphical fidelity may be better as there are base tools and techniques available that should make the game look better, but these might be not useable for the project, might not hit the performance budget needed or have issues preventing them from being used in production, so it could even result in time wasted
- performance could be better if there's any underlying bottlenecks that would've been improved by the new engine, but it may also be "worse" (compared to what? no 1:1 comparison will ever exist and anything is theoretical when the game ships) as the team might push for new graphical effects, higher baseline costs for certain parts or simply tools that are not mature
- stability could be better as the underlying code base has had improvements, but it could also take a turn for the worse as the new parts of the tech are not battletested
- core game features could take advantage of any new workflows or features and result in cool things, but then the work to do those will have meant something else has gotten the axe etc.
I really want to play the original Stalker but I kind of scares me to start, as I know there are a billion mods and ways to play.
I personally played the original one without mods (at that time they did not exist yet) and of course in Russian as native russian speaker. Basically the only game I played in Russian.