Why do people keep saying Destiny was $500 million? Wasn't that proven to be factually incorrect? (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/destiny-budget-nowhere-near-500-million-bungie-says/1100-6420802/)
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Star Citizen has now raised over 250 million dollars
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I'm not a fan of SC either, but it's factually false to say they have delivered "absolutely nothing".
They haven't delivered a finished product, but it's definitely not nothing.
Things that are purchased are attached to your account. Things that happen in game universe is not. It requires a separate system that keeps track of what you have done (in addition to all items and attachments for person, ship and locations). Even for people who own ships when the resets happen it returns things to default state, which mean people who purchased ships still lose any modification, any rentals, or in game purchases they have done through out the quarter. So the experience isn't really different just the default starting point. If you are really interested I posted a video (starting around 22 min mark) below in which Chad McKinney lead gameplay engineer at CiG explain what Socs is and what they were doing to persistence and the issues involved. Thankfully you can hear this type of information from devs themself.
I think that is constantly overlooked interestingly enough. Not sure why.
The backers wont say development is normal. And neither would the devs at CiG state that either.
Many of the devs working on the game, like in the video Todd Papy and Brian Chambers , have worked in the industry for many years. And alot of the faith from backers are placed in the talent and the hundreds of videos and content they have spoken with the community. The fact that it is playable and have been delivering content goes a very long way in terms of backers who actually play the game feel assured that they will deliver a product. It doesn't mean everyone will like it, but more that we will receive a version that includes all the main loops we have been expecting.
It isn't . This is incredibly misleading because his tweet wasn't aimed at everyone just specific backers because anyone who is a fresh backer won't even be able to see the package he is talking about.
Because there's no shortage of suckers who are willing to pay it.
True.
They have missed the deadlines that they themselves have set.
They have parred down on that which was promised, so that what is finally delivered is a shadow of the original feature set.
Of course what they have served is not nothing. But it is no where indicative of a 250 million dollar budget.
My main worry is regarding the overall scope of things they are promising and how it will even match up with some of the ships they are selling.
The original pitch was supposed to basically be 100 hand crafted systems IIRC, which seems like it would still be a stretch to justify ship classes like colony ships which they have been adding over the years.
However, I feel like they have been extremely coy about how many actual systems they will deliver when we hit the true 1.0 release.
I just want SQ42 sometime next year please....
The original pitch was supposed to basically be 100 hand crafted systems IIRC, which seems like it would still be a stretch to justify ship classes like colony ships which they have been adding over the years.
However, I feel like they have been extremely coy about how many actual systems they will deliver when we hit the true 1.0 release.
I just want SQ42 sometime next year please....
I'm not sure why are we comparing TF2 hats and Star Citizen ships, especially when TF2 hats (hell, marketable Valve game items altogether) are part of a meta market players made themselves than Valve selling them for thousands outright.
Star Citizen ships are not only sold with the price of hundreds to a thousand dollar price by Star Citizen themselves, but what started as a pledge target has turned into... I have no idea what to compare what they made.
In the past week we had the 2949 expo where their official twitter handle reminded me more of a car company than about a game.
Are there any co op missions, raids, or benefits by flying those huge ships with friends yet?
Star Citizen ships are not only sold with the price of hundreds to a thousand dollar price by Star Citizen themselves, but what started as a pledge target has turned into... I have no idea what to compare what they made.
In the past week we had the 2949 expo where their official twitter handle reminded me more of a car company than about a game.
Are there any co op missions, raids, or benefits by flying those huge ships with friends yet?
Fuck, they've been wiping ships, and you didn't even tell me that when we were going back and forth on grind times and the in-game economy.
They wouldn't wipe the ships if they didn't plan on drastically increasing the amount of time it takes to grind.
i'm not a star citizen hater or anything but i just really don't know how i feel about them continuing to sell as much things as they have over the last few years. i don't watch say they're being intentionally exploitative but something about it doesn't sit right with me
i do think they'll end up delivering the games they've promised, though to what quality idk. i'm still interested in their story driven thing
i do think they'll end up delivering the games they've promised, though to what quality idk. i'm still interested in their story driven thing
The 500$ million figure came from Kotick himself, not sure why he would lie.
The quote from Bungie is:
Which fits the 140$ million figure we saw in the contract, for development + marketing.
That dosn't mean Activision was lying.
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I think I've been extremely explicit upfront?
You just weren't paying attention.
Because is not really 2 distinct games made up from scratch. SQ42 is using all the tech, models and code that was developed for the MMO part, of course necessary work (and money) needs to be done specifically for that game, but is not 2 games from zero.
That is because the event is like an in universe expo and all ships have commercials resembling car commercials. They also had a show representing the IAE that is similar to "Top Gear". This was done on purpose because the convention was in game.
For now if you go criminal route you will eventually face a UEE hammerhead if you cause enough trouble and in next patch they have a mission where you and a group need to rescue a hijacked 890. And this doesn't even even include PvP battles like this.... or anything rexzilla puts out.
You are right it is not from zero but not everything in S42 will you have access to in SC and vice versa. There are still a huge amount of content that is going to be seperated between two not only for tech reasons but also for balance.
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Initially SQ42 was just SC single player campaign. It was sold in conjunction with SC. At some point they divorced the two things and started having SQ42 be an independent purchase. This is even one of the points of contention on the Crytek lawsuit, since they initially licencesed the engine for SC (which included SQ42) but then when they split the packages you had revenue being generated by something that wasn't SC
I dont see how its any different from say GTA5 or RDR2 except you know those actually existing and not requiring exploitative crowdfunding campaigns to get done
One or two, but the difference is that those games will actually be released in a reasonable amount of time and be feature complete. A quarter billion dollars with no end in sight (or even a coherent plan beyond some 'roadmap' they keep missing milestones on) makes no sense.
Interestingly enough, it seems like for the most part it's the other way around.
According to the devs a lot of what is getting developed and implemented for SQ42 then goes into some heavy modification/expansion to add it to the persistent universe one day.
I know about the in game expo, but the point is that they promote those ships like car commercials do; and even the ship pledge page resembles an online store to buy cars, to the point where you can download brochuresThat is because the event is like an in universe expo and all ships have commercials resembling car commercials. They also had a show representing the IAE that is similar to "Top Gear". This was done on purpose because the convention was in game.
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It looks cool, but not when they say it's a 310 dollars pledge.
I was talking about what you can do now, and that mission isn't out yet. I didn't say anything about Rexzilla's PVP battles because those aren't missions made by CIG. Creative way to take advantage of the sandbox though.
They gave a soft release for SQ42s beta for next year. They are pretty much prioritizing that over almost everything else right now because the last thing the project needs is another year of
It wasn't like this. SC development priorities shift fluidly depending on what Chris Roberts has oversold. Usually SQ42 development would grind to a halt in the second half of the year so that everyone would be hand on deck trying to get the convention things worked on and the end of year patch ready. But it seems that they are trying to stick to the plan now that they've sold a chunk of the company to venture capital
e- Speaking of the beta, has anyone actually asked them what BETA means to them in this case? Will the entire single player campaign be available for people that purchase a package or is it limited?
This is going to be the greatest most bestest most biggest most expansive most sexually thrilling most realistic video game ever made.
I fully expect to turn on the finished product, black out, and wake up with a family and a house or something at this point.
I fully expect to turn on the finished product, black out, and wake up with a family and a house or something at this point.
I remember first hearing about this game how hyped I was about it. The idea of flying your own spaceship and traveling the galaxy was/still seems really amazing.
I can still vividly remember back in 2014 me and my friend were talking about it and were hoping it would be released by the end of 2016... Fast forward to almost 2020 and still this game is nowhere to be fully released and the more I hear about it the less I'm interested. It's basically a 3DMark tech Demo with microtransactions. Paying 700$+ for a virtual ship, holy fuck some guys are out of their mind.
I still haven't played it after all of these years. I wanted to get the full experience, it seems i"ll never get it, such a shame what this project has become.
I can still vividly remember back in 2014 me and my friend were talking about it and were hoping it would be released by the end of 2016... Fast forward to almost 2020 and still this game is nowhere to be fully released and the more I hear about it the less I'm interested. It's basically a 3DMark tech Demo with microtransactions. Paying 700$+ for a virtual ship, holy fuck some guys are out of their mind.
I still haven't played it after all of these years. I wanted to get the full experience, it seems i"ll never get it, such a shame what this project has become.
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The game needed to be feature complete years ago but there's no one who can reign Roberts in. Roberts who by the way hasn't finished a game in a long ass time without someone else taking over because of the same problem now has a limitless checkbook.
We're lucky if Squadron ever ships and that was the original goal of the crowdfunding. It's not so much a scam as it is an impossible dream.
We're lucky if Squadron ever ships and that was the original goal of the crowdfunding. It's not so much a scam as it is an impossible dream.
That's what makes it so disingenuous whenever RDR2 gets brought up as a comparison point to deflect criticism(which it inevitably does, along with the previously noted weird deflections towards Elite). Rockstar is an established dev that has a proven pipeline and also shipped other products in the time it took to develop RDR2. Star Citizen is not the same scenario, with Roberts not having anywhere near the cache that R* has for the comparison to work.
Ok wait,
I'm currently browsing the /r/StarCitizen subreddit for the first time and someone posted that he's now part of the "Chairman's Club" as a Wing Commander.
After googling what it means, people are saying you can get to that rank once you spend 10 000$... yes, 10k.
...what?
Edit: And someone else is saying they're 2 rank above that which is Legatus Navium which is 25 000$
... I'm out.
I'm currently browsing the /r/StarCitizen subreddit for the first time and someone posted that he's now part of the "Chairman's Club" as a Wing Commander.
After googling what it means, people are saying you can get to that rank once you spend 10 000$... yes, 10k.
...what?
Edit: And someone else is saying they're 2 rank above that which is Legatus Navium which is 25 000$
... I'm out.
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At these prices they're basically giving these pay to win virtual items away!
Am I doing it right?
Bingo. I don't think it's a scam or any such nonsense by any means but I am skeptical of a 1.0 product ever coming out, and if it does, it certainly won't have the pie in the sky features that were promised.
Complete with your very own concierge to answer your every questions and needs, an exclusive forum just for those that spent more than 1,000, and of course this wearable perk;
Lol these are the same types that probably have crippling gambling addictions
Beta is slated for Q3* (September, 2020). Full game release is 2021 realistically.
*This will slip undoubtedly.
Star Citizen I pegged for most major ship gameplay by 2022 (mining, refueling, salvage, exploration, etc.) with 3-5 systems (this includes generated missions, etc.).
Whatever they shove out the door when they need more money.
You do realize you don't need to be angry on other people's behalf right? This is where these threads always veer off to shitposting territory. If the backers are happy (and they obviously are since people keep throwing money at this), why is it everyone else's job that doesn't play it to demean those backers on top of calling what they're paying for a scam?
Are you saying that products/companies can't be criticized and judged because some people will pay?
Like, there's always going to be someone who supports horrible business practices. Does that mean we can't point out how shitty those practices are? Or how badly people are being ripped off?
Why are you assuming all backers are happy with it being the way it is?
This is what baffles me when I see so many of the deflections of criticisms of the game. A friend and I chipped into a 2012 kickstarter for something that was promised for 2014. These things take time, sure, but 2020 being the current promise for the friggin' beta is worth giving CIG the side eyes over.
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