Ariam was more than a fellow crew member she was a friend. Michael's logic was overridden by her emotion. A human failing in this instance.
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2x10 teaser sure has some interesting clips. We don't get them on Netflix but just caught it on YouTube. The next episode is called
"The Red Angel"
Ariam getting the TWOK send-off
Burnham and Ash getting friendly
Spock and Culber in EV suits
Reusing the transporter props from the Shenzhou
Burnham being strapped into a device
Burnham and Ash getting friendly
Spock and Culber in EV suits
Reusing the transporter props from the Shenzhou
Burnham being strapped into a device
This. It looks so good it really deserves it and it's really a shame it's not. I'd love to see it like that. We don't even get the HDR version in the US, which is crazy.
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I don't think they have transplant a mind into a cyborg body tech. i think Ariam just continued to upgrade her natural body. I think Pike's body was too far gone for that.
I don't know that Airiam upgraded anything. She was in an accident.
I was going to mention how we haven't seen her in a while, hope she pops up again, I liked her.
Edit: this is cool too
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Yeah, it was indeed weird when I first saw that news here in the thread back then, and, like you said, also strange that she's still on the show in a currently background role so I'm wondering that too, if they'll ever do more with her new character or if she just changed out due to only being available limited time or something. She's only had like one brief scene as her new character so far I think and that's it.
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Not sure why this is such big news considering we all knew he couldn't stay on but anyways
I really hope number one isn't done yet, would be kind of a waste of casting if that's all the scenes they hired her for.
I really hope number one isn't done yet, would be kind of a waste of casting if that's all the scenes they hired her for.
'Major'
We've barely seen Number One. I hope she has more scenes coming up.
So they posted official threads to discuss who the red angel is (and I know small sample size and all) but it seems most are trying to connect it to with Calypso and Zora.
Also I just found this:
They build the sets in VR, that's pretty awesome. She directed the next episode.
Also I just found this:
They build the sets in VR, that's pretty awesome. She directed the next episode.
I had to Google "Commander Reno".
And I though, oh, you mean Tig Notaro (playing herself). I'm cool with more Tig.
I mean, I'd have noped out of the role of Ariam too if i was coming into work at like 4am for probably multiple hours of prosthetic makeup only to have like three single-word lines the whole season with probably no guarantee about role expansion the next season.
Also possible she had adverse skin reactions to the makeup, wouldn't be the first time.
Yeah, I'm sure they could explain that she's a one of a kind experiment from one of Soong's ancestors.
It's interesting and neat effect, I'm loving all the ship scenes we've been getting this season.
The last time we saw something like this was when the NX would "polarize" their hull plating which was their pre-shield technology, but gave a very similar effect. Before that this is how the Enterprise E shields now worked in Nemesis after its apparent refit, but they never explained the change, besides that it probably looked much cooler and more futuristic in action scenes and battles compared to the old bubble looking shields from the tv shows.
He could still show up with the Enterprise here and there. Just not as a regular.
It's still about 8 years before he has his accident anyways so we'd have a long way to go before we catch up to that time.
Yeah I was watching Voyager this morning and the bubble shields look kinda funny
Yeah I was watching Voyager this morning and the bubble shields look kinda funny
What happened with his accident? Was that story ever told? Could it be shown on screen?
This is all we know:
It's from the Menagerie but it's never been shown or expanded upon
I tweet at the every week asking about a new Pike show. Join me. We need more pike.
Either during the war or in the period between now and Kirk getting the keys
I've always preferred the visual of the bubble shields, though having a lot more shield emitters and making it more sectional to hug the skin of the ship would probably be more practical.
To be fair, when you combine it with the screens from WoK, it makes it look like a progression over time - ie, from generating only so much shield power that it's most comfortable hugging the hull, to being able to contain a whole area and safely have space for other ships inside it.
Thinking on the chess analogy from last week, much of what's happening is very much like a chess game between the Red Angel and Control - Discovery is just caught in the middle.
Spock sees the Angel. It has him save Michael's life.
The Six Signals appears across the galaxy.
The Enterprise suddenly experiences "catastrophic failure". This is part of Control's ploy to get Spock and Burnham in the same place.
Except Spock isn't on either ship but who better to track him down than family and his captain.
At this point Control is hoping that Pike and Michael will lead Section 31 to Spock. It already has evolved to the point where it's able to falsify commas.
I have a feeling we will find out more this week.
Spock sees the Angel. It has him save Michael's life.
The Six Signals appears across the galaxy.
The Enterprise suddenly experiences "catastrophic failure". This is part of Control's ploy to get Spock and Burnham in the same place.
Except Spock isn't on either ship but who better to track him down than family and his captain.
At this point Control is hoping that Pike and Michael will lead Section 31 to Spock. It already has evolved to the point where it's able to falsify commas.
I have a feeling we will find out more this week.
So I just watched the " midnight's edge" YouTube channel regarding discovery, prime time line and cannon and the 25% difference thing.
Was this widely known?
It kinda makes me sad annoyed and relieved.
Basically cannon is TOS -> voy/entire. Prime referral to the TNG era but in the JJ verse and discovery and going forward is in this prime verse, but not cannon which legally must differ by 25%.
Like it's a total mess.
Was this widely known?
It kinda makes me sad annoyed and relieved.
Basically cannon is TOS -> voy/entire. Prime referral to the TNG era but in the JJ verse and discovery and going forward is in this prime verse, but not cannon which legally must differ by 25%.
Like it's a total mess.
Midnights Edge basically makes up things for views.
LOL midnight is full of shit he's one of those alex jones type youtuber that whine about women in star trek/wars
not this shit again
Oh maybe I fell into a internet flat earth style trap, my bad probably should have known, never heard of the channel before.
It just made sense of the dumb styling/artistic choices that discovery has made.
It just made sense of the dumb styling/artistic choices that discovery has made.
Man that channel keeps popping up in my YT recommendations no matter how much I tell Google that I'm not interested.
My opinion on the whole visual reboot thing is that the best way to handle it would have been to not make this show a prequel. Holograms, spore drives, new aliens and wildly different uniform design? No one would give a fuck about any if that if the show was set in the TNG timeline. Just make Micheal Spock's foster daughter the same way she is Sarek's foster daughter.
That being said, if the show absolutely had to be a prequel, I'm fine with the visual and technical overhaul. Past callbacks to the 60's designs worked as one off references, having an entire show filmed on sets that are based on those designs would be ridiculous. DSC is doing just enough to pay homage, the control paels on the shuttle, the chairs and replicators in the lounge etc. I would even have been fine with them keeping the Klingon ship designs from the first season.
My opinion on the whole visual reboot thing is that the best way to handle it would have been to not make this show a prequel. Holograms, spore drives, new aliens and wildly different uniform design? No one would give a fuck about any if that if the show was set in the TNG timeline. Just make Micheal Spock's foster daughter the same way she is Sarek's foster daughter.
That being said, if the show absolutely had to be a prequel, I'm fine with the visual and technical overhaul. Past callbacks to the 60's designs worked as one off references, having an entire show filmed on sets that are based on those designs would be ridiculous. DSC is doing just enough to pay homage, the control paels on the shuttle, the chairs and replicators in the lounge etc. I would even have been fine with them keeping the Klingon ship designs from the first season.
I like all the changes and don't care what canon nerds think, I can't wait to see how the Picard show is styled since it's 200+ years after Disco and how they style the different animation shows. Bring it on!
It would explain her absence in ToS... I would actually like that, oddly enough.
But also be a strange move considering we've only seen her once in this show. Ariam being it would make more sense to me. Also the "dead character is really alive as this one!" trope.
The other contender that isn't Michael would be Amanda, as her relationship to Spock has been played up extensively. Buuuut she's in TOS, so that doesn't work.
So going with Ariam as my bet, since I doubt they will be tossing out Burnham this early in the show.
Number One's only scene was ordering a hamburger with pike. I really hope we see more of her in the last five episodes.
Now that Ariam is floating around in space, I think this is probably a good bet.
Burnham or Ariam are my going theories at this point.
I don't think that revealing Michael as the Red Angel has to mean she leaves the show at all—we (audience or characters or both) can find out the Angel's identity without having to see Michael become it, whether that's through flashforwards or the Angel revealing its identity. It can be something that's left hanging, with Michael knowing that she's fated to become the Angel at some point and trying to make the most of her life as she has it.
I think Airiam is going to (eventually) become Zora, with her memories stored on Discovery becoming the basis of Zora's personality centuries later.
That's an interesting theory. I do wonder if we will see Craft or Zora this season at all.
Pike's fate is needlessly cruel and doesn't make much sense in TOS (just saw The Menagerie yesterday). It seems to exist to justify Spock's extreme actions (and allow reuse of a scrapped pilot footage). I liked the episode overall but it's got lots of questionable storytelling decisions. Seeing this version of Pike (who's a lot more likeable than the original) makes it even more sad.
I also prefer the new skin shields. Wasn't a fan of the lie detector though. Has that featured in Trek in the past? Just seems like it opens up a whole new can of worms. If the explanation is that it's not accurate at all much like real life lie detectors, then why use it?
I think Calypso was a totally isolated story with no relation to the show. There's little benefit or reason to link Zora to Airiam. They appear to have little similarities and not a similar voice either.
I also prefer the new skin shields. Wasn't a fan of the lie detector though. Has that featured in Trek in the past? Just seems like it opens up a whole new can of worms. If the explanation is that it's not accurate at all much like real life lie detectors, then why use it?
I think Calypso was a totally isolated story with no relation to the show. There's little benefit or reason to link Zora to Airiam. They appear to have little similarities and not a similar voice either.
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Kirk uses a lie detector for Mudd of all people so it's a thing. How accurate it is or isn't is never really stated.
Also if I remember correctly didn't Zora say she adjusted her personality so that Craft would feel more comfortable? She could have just altered her voice.
Also if I remember correctly didn't Zora say she adjusted her personality so that Craft would feel more comfortable? She could have just altered her voice.
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The admiral seemed confident about the results of the test, so much as to trust it over footage she claims has been verified and checked for doctoring (well plus she doesn't trust it due its source). Fair if it's been in Trek in the past but I personally don't like it.
On Zora, I honestly see no benefit to the story of either Calypso or Discovery by having Airiam be the future Discovery AI.
If they show a glimpse of Pike's future, I hope they redesign that chair. The beeping thing never made sense either.
Yeah, just watched The Menagerie, and it's silly how they can't come up with a better communication device for Pike beside a yes and no buzzer. It was hard to suspend disbelief for it in the 60s' idea of the future, and even less now.
Especially as this previous episode demonstrated that for victims of serious accidents being put into a cybernetic body is an option. If they did that with Ariam, why wouldn't they do it for Pike?