In person it shouldn't work like that though, and everyone should just be speaking English?While it would have been a lot trickier to produce, I would have loved if they would have had the characters mouthing their native tongue, but hearing the language the translator was outputting. Kinda like what they did when Michael was talking with Kol. Would have helped sell the confusion even more. After all these years of Star Trek, is this the first time the universal translator has malfunctioned? Why haven't the writers ever thought of that before? It was truly a great scene, even if it crowded some of the other parts of the episode.
As much as I like Saru I was a little bothered at first that they didnt have the courage to kill him off. But seeing it expose the great lie of his species was a better pay off. He's gonna be flouting some prime directive sooner or later.
Also, yay more Tig, except shes not exactly a great actress. The high stress moments don't suit her deadpan very well.
*micdrop*
Anyway, tonight's episode was amazing. Might well be my favorite yet. Doug Jones really knocked it out of the park here.
This has nothing to do with anything, but I think the number one item on my Discovery wishlist is for Sybok to show up. Not just to troll all the haters, but to take one of the more derided elements of Star Trek and reframe it in an interesting way. Star Trek V has always been my favorite bad movie after all ;).
I'm glad it wasn't tbh. Like, it would have been cool at the moment but I always hate when they do stuff like that.
I was surprised that one of my roommates tonight made it clear this might have been his least favorite episode to-date. He said some of the scenes were really stilted and there was too much technobabble involved in the problem-solving without it feeling organic.
I have a dread feeling the more the show "course-corrects" for the overall fandom the less he'll take to it. Last week's episode was his favorite of the season so far. <_>
I feel like I like the variety in episodes and tones. Episode 3 was a bit weak though. Probably my least favorite so far this season. Episode 4 may have been my favorite. 1 was the prettiest episode, 2 was very classic Trek like and I really liked the Red Angel stuff. A good variety so far. As the show continues I think they will continue improving on the show.
I was surprised that one of my roommates tonight made it clear this might have been his least favorite episode to-date. He said some of the scenes were really stilted and there was too much technobabble involved in the problem-solving without it feeling organic.
I have a dread feeling the more the show "course-corrects" for the overall fandom the less he'll take to it. Last week's episode was his favorite of the season so far. <_>
Another fantastic episode, season 2 is on a roll. This was such a TNG episode I loved it.
I laughed so hard when Pike said: WAS IST PASSIERT?!
I don't think so. Pike said they wouldn't use them on Enterprise, as a nod to the TOS nerds. I'm sure Discovery will continue to use them.I think the budget constraints are forcing the show back into canon with the holograms, and I'm okay with that. The budget can be used much better elsewhere like the FAR superior ship shots this season.
They've only said they won't be on Enterprise to keep the continuity complaints down. We've already see it used this season and will probably see it again yet.I think the budget constraints are forcing the show back into canon with the holograms, and I'm okay with that. The budget can be used much better elsewhere like the FAR superior ship shots this season.
While I did enjoy the ep, I could have done with it just being Saru and the sphere. Adding the Tilly issue in at the same time could have been saved for another ep maybe with less other peril.
It also seemed to take ages for anyone to think it might be communicating, while it was one of the first things I thought of.
They've only said they won't be on Enterprise to keep the continuity complaints down. We've already see it used this season and will probably see it again yet.
They've only said they won't be on Enterprise to keep the continuity complaints down. We've already see it used this season and will probably see it again yet.
You could argue that the holograms in ds9 are better technology since the image quality is crystal clear vs the more ghostly look of discovery... That is a stretch though.Just need excuses now for the other races TOS ships, all ~175 TNG, ~175 DS9, ~175 Voyagers and 10 movies. Especially including the episodes where holo communications are treated as some new technology.
As I said before, I don't think what Trek fans want from Trek is what works for the average person. I think they prefer more character drama and more action. And being the main "Trek" thing, Discovery has to try to please Trek fans and those people. Otherwise, it'll end up... where Trek ended up. Luckily, one of the things that helps with being CBS All Access is Trek fans are rather fervent, so they're willing to sub to watch the show, which is why CBS is leaning on it.
As someone else mentioned, the whole Saru thing was bullshit.
Like I know the ship was in a bit of a state, but sickbay was fine.
There's no way Saru would have been allowed to die, cos that's what his race has always done, especially as not too much is known about him medical wise. There would have been endless tests, research, experiments etc, not "oh, you're not feeling great, of course I'll get that knife out of your draw and kill you, totally the logical think to do"
Picard was prepared to let Worf commit ritual suicide despite being capable of living a full life as a parapalegic. It's about respecting other cultures beliefs.
What would have been the funniest song she could have started singing? Crazy Frog? Fuck Tha Police?
In what way specifically?There is just so much in one episode its a little overwhelming.
Also the balance between science and fiction is a bit off at times, as I said, it sometimes feels a bit too much like Star Wars.
My friend loved her acting lol she texted me as she was watching the scene between her and Saru, I guess she's very polarizing lol
My friend loved her acting lol she texted me as she was watching the scene between her and Saru, I guess she's very polarizing lol
As much as I like Saru I was a little bothered at first that they didnt have the courage to kill him off. But seeing it expose the great lie of his species was a better pay off. He's gonna be flouting some prime directive sooner or later.
Also, yay more Tig, except shes not exactly a great actress. The high stress moments don't suit her deadpan very well.
Eh that's no different than that one species that kills their elders at age 60, I forget which series that was. Or that other species that has a digital war going on and based on calculations estimate who would have died and have those commit suicide. The Federation has a lot of instances where they don't interfere even if the species are doing things like murder and slavery.I mean, I've seen Tig live before doing stand-up and knew she'd acted before, but it was fairly surprising seeing her show up in Discovery. She doesn't bother me really, and frankly, I think it's better to get some people that actually have skill at delivering comedy if they're at least going to try and write it. Take TNG, it's the main reason Data was able to get away with comedic moments and it always feel flat for someone like Dr. Crusher.
The whole thing with Saru's circumstances annoys me. Through the whole New Eden episode I kept thinking they're being a dick to this poor guy that knows the truth, when they just up and take Saru off of his planet and lets him into Starfleet - something I don't think we've ever seen happen in any situation on the show (unless you count mitigating circumstances like the marine biologist hitching a ride back to the future in STIV).
Also, whoever the "hunting" species is on Saru's planet seems known to the Federation, why isn't he asking why they sanction such behavior (though I guess they could be pre-warp too, but I thought they weren't?).
The whole thing with Saru's circumstances annoys me. Through the whole New Eden episode I kept thinking they're being a dick to this poor guy that knows the truth, when they just up and take Saru off of his planet and lets him into Starfleet - something I don't think we've ever seen happen in any situation on the show (unless you count mitigating circumstances like the marine biologist hitching a ride back to the future in STIV).
Also, whoever the "hunting" species is on Saru's planet seems known to the Federation, why isn't he asking why they sanction such behavior (though I guess they could be pre-warp too, but I thought they weren't?
Eh that's no different than that one species that kills their elders at age 60, I forget which series that was. Or that other species that has a digital war going on and based on calculations estimate who would have died and have those commit suicide. The Federation has a lot of instances where they don't interfere even if the species are doing things like murder and slavery.
the cardassian slaughtering and enslaving the bajoran is another good example of this
Half a life is a good example since they are part of the Federation. /QUOTE]
If they are part of the federation, the Ba'ul would be who the Federation deal with (and Philipa acknowledges them when she rescues Saru) they would have told the federation that the Kelpians had an 'expiration' date and were showing mercy to the Kelpians. Remember Saru thought he was dying for sure and it was either through the Ba'ul where it was supposed to be painless or if they stayed on the planet would die in agony. So it's very much in line with Half a Life.Half a life is a good example since they are part of the Federation. However, the Cardassian's are not making that have mitigating political circumstances since the Cardassians aren't beholden to Federation rules. However, the "Half a Life" situation with them dying at 60 is completely internal amongst one society where everyone has full knowledge and accepts the norms of that society based on the same basis.
In the case of Kelpians, assuming the predator species is in the Federation (it may well not be in which case this argument is moot) that would be the Federation sanctioning one of its members to essentially kill a lesser species that is subjugated to the status of a pre-warp society by their subjugators and led to believe things that are not true. Seems rather draconian for the Federation to allow such an arrangement.