I don't know why that's funny to me, but it is. lol
Also Canada fucked again by Bell.
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I don't know why that's funny to me, but it is. lol
Also Canada fucked again by Bell.
Cue shitty YouTube hot takes - NETFLIX DISAPPOINTED BY DISCOVERY. WON'T FUND PICARD.
CBS: I don't think our offerings are fragmented enough, make it three apps. That's what it means to diversify, right? I read a book once. Well, the back of one.
Honestly I'm pretty ok with it continuing on Crave because my parents get Crave for free with their cable subscription and I refuse to support Amazon more than necessary so for me it's *thumbs up*
Honestly I would be really interested in finding out why Netflix passed on Picard (if they did, you would think CBS would go to their existing partner first but I don't know for sure). Are they unhappy with the numbers Discovery is getting? Is CBS asking for too much money? Do they just think they don't need 2 Star Trek shows?
Unfortunately we'll probably never know.
It's weird because Netflix was touted as the home of Star Trek. It has all the shows bar this.
CBS probably auctioned it off to the highest bidder + we know bezos is a huge fan of star trek and picard
if amazon offer more money then sure but it will have to wait for the contract to be over and by then disco might be over
Putting on Prime is shitty. Now need subscribe to two streaming services to watch that and STD.
it's just business
not really since disco and picard won't overlap
If I'm remembering correctly they said several platforms bid on Discovery originally and Netflix won out. The same easily could have happen here with Amazon winning out in their push for more original content for Prime. By Netflix's own reporting Discovery and Star Trek in general is very successful for them.
Could they have passed? Maybe. They have all the Trek series, Discovery and any first look at any direct spin offs from Discovery I believe(Short Treks and the upcoming Section 31. Anything Pike related might very well fall under this as well). The Picard show would be a new contract most likely. With Netflix doing more original content as well they might have thought they had enough. Aren't they suppose to be putting a TON of money into the new season of Lost in Space?
I could see Amazon being very aggressive for this at the same time. CBS All Access is already apart of the Amazon Prime Channels so they would have metrics for Discovery from that I think. All the past series and films are available on Amazon Video and/or apart of Prime too. The series (TOS to Enterprise) are on Amazon, Netflix, and CBSAA. Hadn't realized until recently they were available in multiple places like that. I wonder if they're on any other streaming service.
Still you've have the usually filth on youtube trying again to push the idea that Netflix is unhappy with Discovery, etc when it couldn't be further from the truth.
Could they have passed? Maybe. They have all the Trek series, Discovery and any first look at any direct spin offs from Discovery I believe(Short Treks and the upcoming Section 31. Anything Pike related might very well fall under this as well). The Picard show would be a new contract most likely. With Netflix doing more original content as well they might have thought they had enough. Aren't they suppose to be putting a TON of money into the new season of Lost in Space?
I could see Amazon being very aggressive for this at the same time. CBS All Access is already apart of the Amazon Prime Channels so they would have metrics for Discovery from that I think. All the past series and films are available on Amazon Video and/or apart of Prime too. The series (TOS to Enterprise) are on Amazon, Netflix, and CBSAA. Hadn't realized until recently they were available in multiple places like that. I wonder if they're on any other streaming service.
Still you've have the usually filth on youtube trying again to push the idea that Netflix is unhappy with Discovery, etc when it couldn't be further from the truth.
What We Left Behind is a great love letter to DS9, particularly the HD remastered footage of like 20 minutes of footage from the show (they tried to recreate one of the battles in CG which was fine I suppose, but Indiegogo budget).
I think the things that got me were the Michael Pillar eulogy and Terry Ferrell having a chance to talk about how she felt screwed by the producers. It's clearly still a sore point for her, and they for the most part just let her talk about it and didn't try to counter her statement.
Seeing Behr and co sit in a room to try to come up with a new season of DS9 was hilarious though. I think I would have been fine with a documentary that was just about their day together coming up with such a wacky episode (considering we live in a post-Discovery world now).
Oh, I'm also glad Behr was ready to admit that Rejoined wasn't some groundbreaking moment for Trek that absolves the franchise for ignoring queer characters during the 90s. It was a hamfisted moment in the documentary, but at least it wasn't masturbatory with self-congratulations.
I think the things that got me were the Michael Pillar eulogy and Terry Ferrell having a chance to talk about how she felt screwed by the producers. It's clearly still a sore point for her, and they for the most part just let her talk about it and didn't try to counter her statement.
Seeing Behr and co sit in a room to try to come up with a new season of DS9 was hilarious though. I think I would have been fine with a documentary that was just about their day together coming up with such a wacky episode (considering we live in a post-Discovery world now).
Oh, I'm also glad Behr was ready to admit that Rejoined wasn't some groundbreaking moment for Trek that absolves the franchise for ignoring queer characters during the 90s. It was a hamfisted moment in the documentary, but at least it wasn't masturbatory with self-congratulations.
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I just got back from the documentary too. Very celebratory, not much inside baseball aside from the little bit about Terry Farrell talking her contract dispute - no details, just how she felt. The bit about Far Beyond the Stars was good, and they teased some stuff about Trials and Tribble-ations in the Blu-ray extras.
They must have a lot of footage they didn't use. It does make me wish someone would pay to do the HD though. Dump it on All Access or something.
I remember reading something about how, in addition to being expensive, a full DS9 and VOY HD remaster would be difficult because the original effects files either were lost or in an unusable format (or something to that effect). Is that true, or am I remembering wrong?
To be honest I didn't even notice that the remastered footage was remastered (aside from the remastered cg space battle, which looked nice but not mind blowing). It wasn't like the first time I saw TNG on blu ray.
That's part of it because they moved away from practical to CG effects at the time. For the documentary they basically tried redoing this scene in HD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoIFUJxJwcQ
ytma!▶DS9: Sacrifice of Angels Fleet Battle (3:18)The Battle to retake Deep Space Nine
And they redid all the ships in CG which was basically video game level. For it to look good, I'm assuming a lot more time and money.
Haha, yeah me neither. I think it's because it was a few scenes out of context and I was more invested in the actual documentary than the footage.
I loved the documentary. I get that the space scenes basically make a full remaster impossible, but damn the quality improvement was great for the scenes on the station. The sets, the colors, the flashing lights in the scene with Kira and Quark at the end of Emissary, I didn't know that was even happening until seeing it in HD.
The joke during the credits about the most important scene, omg lol.
The joke during the credits about the most important scene, omg lol.
To break it down.
The shows were filmed on 35mm film, which is great for transferring to HD resolution.
However, for TV they were transferred down to NTSC SD resolution. It is there at that resolution visual effects were created and applied.
No HD version of the CGI or other effects exist.
So they have two choices.
1. Try and upscale the SD TV shows (terrible idea).
2. Do what they did for TNG, go back to 35mm negatives, transfer to HD resolution and edit them to match the original broadcasts perfectly (huge task).
They would also have to perfectly recreate every visual effect using CGI and edit them into the newly transferred edits from above (another huge and also costly task). It would look amazing though.
Unfortunately with the drop in physical sales due to streaming services it isn't seen as a worthwhile cost, and selling to streaming services will not cover it either.
Original didn't either.
You could argue they are the back line and the feds/Klingons weren't pushing past them.
Yeah, they said they used this as reference for their own HD remake. Of course they had the bonus of being able to rescan all the actual "live action" scenes too.
I'm still shocked they went through all that trouble for TNG but since it's my favorite show of all time I'm really thankful they did.
Shocked it's not on Netflix. Wow.
Yikes. I wouldn't want it on Prime. I'd have to buy that. It's on Cable unlike every other country in the world and on a streaming service, like every other country in the world. Best of both worlds.
Amazon is worse than Bell.
Yeah. I'm really interested to see if it stays split or all goes to Prime.
Yikes. I wouldn't want it on Prime. I'd have to buy that. It's on Cable unlike every other country in the world and on a streaming service, like every other country in the world. Best of both worlds.
Amazon is worse than Bell.
Yeah. I'm really interested to see if it stays split or all goes to Prime.
Maybe. They kinda look similar to what was in the Countdown comic as well I think.
Could be actually. Kurtzman is involved with this one, right? So he might move to canonise his stuff
True. I think I'm just fangasming over seeing a 24th-century overall style in general right now lol
I'm thinking about what other Trek novelverse or Memory Beta things will get canonized in Picard. What has David Mack written?
Could be actually. Kurtzman is involved with this one, right? So he might move to canonise his stuff
Well that's the least creative name that they could have come up with for the show.
Hopefully it's good.
Hopefully it's good.
The show about Deep Space Nine is called Deep Space Nine.
The show about Voyager is called Voyager.
The show about Enterprise is called Enterprise.
The show about Discovery is called Discovery.
The show about Picard is called Picard.
Only TOS and TNG break the pattern. And they were both about the Starfleet flag sheet Enterprise. None of the others were. (Enterprise was pre-Starfleet, right? Aren't they an Earth ship or something?)
Yeah. Enterprise the series is about the adventurers of the United Earth ship NX-01 Enterprise, during the years preceding the foundation of the United Federation of Planets. Involved a dose of retcons over being the 'first' Enterprise.
I don't think it was ever called that. I feel like I only ever heard the D rerefenced as the flagship.
Hmmm... That might be a bit of accidental headcanon on my part. I suppose you cannot have your flag ship on a 5 year mission.
Originally? No. It was just another incidental part of the fleet, though of a rarer class of ship. Same way the US Enterprises were important, but not strictly 'the flagship'. Since Enterprise (the show) retconned in the sheer importance the NX-01 has in founding the Federation, it is a casually assumed headcanon.
Yeah I finished watching TOS a few months ago and don't remember flagship being mentioned. The way the crew gets treated in the TOS movies doesn't feel like Flagship status either. Maybe in the assumed five year mission between TMP and Wrath of Kahn, but after that it's a training ship, in mothballs and then blown up.
I feel like I should apologize for being pedantic, but I guess that's kind of the call of duty for a ST fan.
I feel like I should apologize for being pedantic, but I guess that's kind of the call of duty for a ST fan.
Nah, it's fine. The series has subjected itself to so many retcons and unresolved minutiae that it's not hard to start falling down a rabbit hole when you stop and think about it for five seconds. The article on how the bloody hell the warp scale works is a fun read:
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Warp_factor
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Warp_factor