In a twist, it's actually Nana Visitor.
In a twist, it's actually Nana Visitor.
That theme was awesome until they ruined it in Seasons 3 and 4.
I liked the theme too. S3&4 is jarring though.That theme was awesome until they ruined it in Seasons 3 and 4.
Season 3/4 Enterprise theme is on par with Discovery for worst Star Trek opening theme.
Interesting. I wonder what they could add to the game for Enterprise. They already have the uniforms and both NX models in the game.
They could always bring in Trip. Like, pulled from the moment of his death and brought to the present day because reasons.Enterprise's presence in the game proper comes through mostly in the Temporal Cold War stuff, where Daniels is your contact (and probably the actor they could most easily afford). At one point you do get to go back and save the NX-01 (remember that episode with the time pod? Yeah, that was you), but as yet it is the one era not to see a major crew member return; Worf, Tasha, and Geordi mean TNG is technically in there. The game does have a load of time travel shenanigans it could lean into if it wants, but it's certainly harder to wrangle than simply continuing the story ala Voyager or DS9.
Beyond that... maybe some of the extra ship designs that commonly turn up in side material? Like the Poseidon class
Enterprise was victim of a shitty fanbase much like Star Wars is facing with a certain portion of its fanbase right now. Muh star trek must be classical music. Enterprise looks too advanced yada yada. The franchise needed fresh leadership that would eventually come to Enterprise but way too late when minds had been made and it was a losing battle.
I don't think Enterprise looked too advanced at all really. I especially loved when they actually brought in a TOS Constitution class ship and you could directly compare them.Enterprise was victim of a shitty fanbase much like Star Wars is facing with a certain portion of its fanbase right now. Muh star trek must be classical music. Enterprise looks too advanced yada yada. The franchise needed fresh leadership that would eventually come to Enterprise but way too late when minds had been made and it was a losing battle.
We'll always have the problem with ships looking more advanced than they should be in continuity with the constant advances in real world technology and it's just something you have to accept and live with. I feel like Discovery maybe took it a bit too far with their use of tech that should probably come later but it's happened now and there's no point in letting it ruin the show for me.
A counterpoint to that would be the wonderful job the production crew did with the Enterprise's bridge in Discovery. I think it's possible to make something more recent feel older and vice versa.
My biggest tech issues with Discovery are,
The Spore Drive - Just too advanced and something that nobody ever knows about in future despite it literally allowing you to cross the Galaxy in an instant? Seriously?
Hologram communications - This should not have been in something as early as Discovery. Hologram communications were a brand new novelty in DS9, yet in Discovery they treat it as old hat? Then they try to backtrack on it pretty pathetically by just having Pike not like it.
Control - A Skynet like AI that becomes a living being and eventually a Borg RIP-off and after that computer tech seems to take a massive step backward. Also the whole thing was never discovered by more than a handful of people who all just agreed to never talk about it.
Discovery can have some great moments, but it really has had some of the worst writing in Trek history.
I'm convinced that in Season 1 the writers were going out of their way to go against canon, not just "oh we aren't worrying about that". In Season 2 they tried to fix some of it, only to make some of the same mistakes before eventually just giving up and going "everyone agreed to keep it a secret and never talk about the last 2 years".
The thing is Star Trek diverges from our history from about the 60s or 70s onwards due to things like the Eugenics Wars. There's no reason that computers in Star Trek have to be as advanced as the ones we have right now.Definitely agree with you about the spore drive and holo comms. Spore drive is a cool idea, but it should have been used as a hook for a post-voyager story, not a prequel.
I think Control is a different case though. Part of it is evolving understanding of computer capabilities. It doesn't make sense to be rigidly adherent to a 1966-based view of the future of computing, right? That would basically turn Star Trek into Retrofuturism. Consider the upcoming Foundation tv series. The book, as far as I can recall, makes very little mention of computers. Everything is based on "atomics." But should we expect the TV series to stick with a 1940's vision of the future? Star Trek is supposed to be a vision of our future, not a completely separate universe.
On the other hand is the Control that much different from TOS supercomputers like the M5?
My biggest tech issues with Discovery are,
The Spore Drive - Just too advanced and something that nobody ever knows about in future despite it literally allowing you to cross the Galaxy in an instant? Seriously?
Hologram communications - This should not have been in something as early as Discovery. Hologram communications were a brand new novelty in DS9, yet in Discovery they treat it as old hat? Then they try to backtrack on it pretty pathetically by just having Pike not like it.
Control - A Skynet like AI that becomes a living being and eventually a Borg RIP-off and after that computer tech seems to take a massive step backward. Also the whole thing was never discovered by more than a handful of people who all just agreed to never talk about it.
Discovery can have some great moments, but it really has had some of the worst writing in Trek history.
I'm convinced that in Season 1 the writers were going out of their way to go against canon, not just "oh we aren't worrying about that". In Season 2 they tried to fix some of it, only to make some of the same mistakes before eventually just giving up and going "everyone agreed to keep it a secret and never talk about the last 2 years".
Oh God I'd forgotten about the shuttles.Those things also bugged me, along with the Enterprise having like 150 shuttles and using them like X-Wings in the season 2 finale.
I think they could have done a much better job of respecting the TOS level of technology while still making the show look futuristic by our current standards. I thought the Enterprise bridge on Discovery was a pretty good example of walking the line really well.
Honestly if they wanted to incoporate all that technolgy into Discovery it should have been set post Nemesis instead of pre-TOS.
Oh I was fine with the modernisation they did for the Enterprise, that actually looked pretty good. It was Discovery itself that was too advanced.the TOS era stuff looks like shit nowadays so personally i'm very much ok with disco attempt to modernize it of course it's not perfect the turbolift ride for example is completely nonsensical and as for the season finale shuttle spam well it doesn't make sense but it was cool so whatever
Another thing I'd forgotten about, and another thing that makes no sense and shouldn't be in there. They have nothing like that even as late as Voyager and Nemesis. We've seen examples much later than TOS of people having to go out onto the hull in space suits to make repairs, ships having to go into spacedock, etc.I thought the worst thing was the repair robots on Enterprise...feels like they added them just to fuck with people that complain lol
The thing is Star Trek diverges from our history from about the 60s or 70s onwards due to things like the Eugenics Wars. There's no reason that computers in Star Trek have to be as advanced as the ones we have right now.
By modern standars, AI in Star Trek is straight up Schizo Tech. Enormously, maybe even impossibly capable in some regards (e.g. the Enterprise's computer making a sentient being by accident) but incredibly primitive in others. A lot of really routine stuff is handled by crew members that by all rights should be easily done by computers, if we assumed even a reasonable level of advancement from where we are now.I don't think that's true, about the computers. People discount the difficulty of advancing AI tech. Also starfleet is working at vast distances, which means a chunk of the computer is computing the subspace connection to the data. And the built-in protocols to er....stop kids from tape recording the captain's voice to take over the ship....well, you know. If it worked, the built-in protocols would take up a ton of space.
Plus TOS explained that starfleet deliberately went away from using AI in ship computers etc after the Daystrom debacle, which is why Data was unique in the human world. Nobody else wanted AI, they wanted humans to explore the galaxy.