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Actually an episode of TNG shows that you can be conscious during transport. It's just that the process is usually so quickly you don't notice it.
It's like if one frame of information was put in front of your eyes at the exact same moment you blinked.
With regards to that, the actor has been trying to get a show where he captains a ship for a looooong time, so this may be the dit way of getting him back.
Anyone else think Patrick might be abit too old to play Picard. I liked it when Picard would physically lay the smack down on scrubs. Not sure Patrick could handle that.
I saw the CGP Grey video on continuity of consciousness, so that's about where I am on education in the subject.We're not going to figure this out here, but I think you're oversimplifying the transporter thing. The difference between converting matter into energy and back again versus converting energy into a copy of that matter ends up in philosophical territory. Star Trek asks us to assume that's been figured out, but doesn't (and can't) explain how. If there's even a way to prove continuity of consciousness I can't think of it.
I feel like Star Trek should get to the point where really imaginative writers actually run with the ideas presented throughout the different series and kind of get a tighter grip on it all and try to make it coherent as possible. If that means modifying things a little, whatever. I think the flimsy way it's been handled since forever is just kind of old and I'd really like to see a deeper sci-fi story using the Star Trek universe and all it's crazy technology - and what it would mean to be human. Sort of like the Iain Banks Culture series that some have mentioned in this thread. I'd love to see Star Trek actually get weird and consequential and stop telling boring stories about androids and Romulan conspiracies. Give me more complexity. Not sure if that would work best in an episodic/serial mix or just straight serialization.
Even beyond the tech stuff, I'd like to see writers that actually cared about the continuity and kept it all connected. I think continuity can be really fun when it's adhered to beyond the flaky way most people approach Star Trek, where it's only used if it's convenient to the story they want to tell. It's like Star Trek has steadily become space fantasy over the years, but there's real opportunities or potential to develop something that could be complex and entertaining. Those qualities don't have to be in opposition, but I get the feeling people that get involved with Star Trek think that the only stories that can be told are very traditional action/adventure with the wrapping of what has been known as Star Trek. It's not that this means those kinds of series are bad, just a little old at this point. Like I loved DS9 back in the day, but I can't really get into the war arc stuff anymore as it just feels like I'm watching some traditional war story, which DS9 succeeded in doing with it's rich characterization, but I don't know it's just not super interesting anymore. Whereas with old episodes of other series where an idea was presented in isolation, I find it still engaging to think on what I've seen and what ideas were presented.
Right, but I'm saying what Star Trek keeps doing is just not that interesting. It doesn't even have to go full into hard sci-fi to be something different or more compelling than it is now or has been in the past. At its best it did present itself as something more than just traditional adventure drama, which is what I'd like to see accentuated more than the bland plots they're coming up with these days. Less space fantasy and more dealing with what the future and technology actually mean for humans (in ways that are relevant - so less focus on scary androids and moreso on complex, larger scale AI), beyond the same old faction politics ST has tapped for decades. I think you can make sci-fi for a mass audience that isn't the same old thing time and again. Especially now, I think there is potential in complexity reaching larger audiences. Like continuity for example could be used to actually build a coherent and consistent world instead of just being window dressing, I don't think that's a limited audience type thing at all today.At the end of the day though, Star Trek was never intended to be the type of hard science fiction a lot of people claim to want.
I was surprised that very few if any of the reviewers picked up on the Issac Asimov diss in Episode 2 of PIC. Most thought it was an ironic joke about a character in a science fiction show claiming he wasn't into science fiction, and I think that was the top layer of that joke.
But I saw it too as a kick at Asimov, or at least an acknowledgement of how Asimov hated TOS when it first came out because of just how loose it was with science facts. He was later convinced by Roddenberry to accept the show for what it was, science fiction for a mass audience in a western adventure show set in space. Asimov came around and then loved the show for other reasons, like its social commentary and characters.
You say this when we have seen future versions of both Crusher and Geordi in command of their own ships.I felt a little incredulous about it at first too but, well... Riker and Troi are over on the Titan, Data is gone, Crusher is a Doctor so commanding a flagship isn't really her realm. If we're looking at the original cast, it's pretty much between Geordi and Worf. But Geordi is an engineer and naturally spent most of his time in engineering dealing more with technology than with people.
Worf was actually an Enterprise bridge officer dealing directly with high risk situations. On DS9 he coordinated starfleet activity for that entire sector. He later became the commander of the USS Defiant. He also became a Federation ambassador (to Qo'noS of course).
If they're going to pick from the original cast, Worf seems like the best answer. Dude actually has a pretty damn nice resume.
It just feels weird because Worf was so often played for laughs or outright ignored in the TNG era. But the more I think about it, the more it makes sense (within the context of fiction).
Now I just wonder if it's still the E.
I felt a little incredulous about it at first too but, well... Riker and Troi are over on the Titan, Data is gone, Crusher is a Doctor so commanding a flagship isn't really her realm. If we're looking at the original cast, it's pretty much between Geordi and Worf. But Geordi is an engineer and naturally spent most of his time in engineering dealing more with technology than with people.
Worf was actually an Enterprise bridge officer dealing directly with high risk situations. On DS9 he coordinated starfleet activity for that entire sector. He later became the commander of the USS Defiant. He also became a Federation ambassador (to Qo'noS of course).
If they're going to pick from the original cast, Worf seems like the best answer. Dude actually has a pretty damn nice resume.
It just feels weird because Worf was so often played for laughs or outright ignored in the TNG era. But the more I think about it, the more it makes sense (within the context of fiction).
Now I just wonder if it's still the E.
Do brief future cameos from defunct timelines somehow make them more qualifiedYou say this when we have seen future versions of both Crusher and Geordi in command of their own ships.
Still seems likea significant backwards career move from Ambassador.
Also if it's not the Enterprise E it's a little goofy. These ships should be in service for decades, not 10-15 years.
Will we see the two-handed punch in this show? It's not real Star Trek until someone busts that one out
The crew's journey to Freecloud takes a detour when Picard orders a stop at the planet Vashti, where Picard and Raffi relocated Romulan refugees 14 years earlier. Upon arrival, Picard reunites with Elnor (Evan Evagora), a young Romulan he befriended during the relocation. Meanwhile, Narek continues his attempts to learn more about Soji while Narissa's impatience with his lack of progress grows.
Calling it.
Narissa's attempt to force Narek to extract information from Soji results in a threesome.
Yeah but their vibes are waaaay too freaky to not be...you knowUmm
aren't they brother and sister? Did I miss hear that in ep 3?
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aren't they brother and sister? Did I miss hear that in ep 3?
iirc star trek has never touched upon this particular tabooYeah but their vibes are waaaay too freaky to not be...you know
They also never dropped F bombs to my recollection but I'm no expert. It wouldn't really matter to me either way I'm having a blast with the show. It hasn't quite reached disco season 2 levels for me yet thoughiirc star trek has never touched upon this particular taboo
but there's a first time for everything
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aren't they brother and sister? Did I miss hear that in ep 3?
.When are the Romulan brother and sister gonna fuck? It's not prestige TV until it happens.
I don't know what to make of this show. I guess saying it's "goofy" is the nicest way to put it.
iirc star trek has never touched upon this particular taboo
but there's a first time for everything
Everyone becoming Captains is one of the silliest things in Star Trek.You say this when we have seen future versions of both Crusher and Geordi in command of their own ships.
No. Because as you said it was intentional by the writers. We're not actually looking into life in the late 24th century after all.Anyone else bothered by the microaggression that both Rios and Raffi assumed the pilot must be male by default? I know, an intentional misdirection by the writers for the reveal but you'd have hoped with 300 years of betterment they would have eliminated such ingrained biases.
People can change a lot in 30 years, especially when facing their own mortality and radical life changes.