Makes me glad I don't watch opening credits for shows other than season premieres.I'm in the US. The intro listed Jeri Ryan as a special guest star. I thought it also mentioned "as 7 of 9," but I just rewatched the intro and it just lists her name. Still, its a big enough spoiler to wait until the ending credits to list. Took all the surprise away from her appearance. I knew her character was showing up at some point based on the trailers, but it not when she would appear. The intro spoiled it. If there are surprise characters showing up later, I hope they handle it better.
Yeah, I wouldn't have known if not for her name coming up in the intro credits this week for the first time, but I too didn't expect that to be her entrance until they showed her unknown ship and remembered how little time was left in the ep.Yeah that spoiled it for me too. But at least I expected to see her on the Borg cube, and not to meet up with our heroes already. So I was surprised in that way. A "skip intro" button would be nice.
"Hi, JL," she said. She had found this nickname somewhere. Nobody else would get away with it; nobody on the Enterprise would have dared. Neither dismissive nor insubordinate, and yet somehow extremely familiar and disarming. Pure Raffi.
This. It'd be so damn good.Oh, and I still really hate that none of the new Trek is in 4k or in HDR. Just the lighting style itself would lend itself amazingly to it.
Yeah, no kidding. I was getting extreme Rivendell vibes the entire time Picard was meeting with the warrior-nuns.Felt too much like Lord of the Rings and recruiting an elf.
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The warrior nuns were pretty badass doe
I understand that they were assholes, racist assholes even, but It's just odd behavior from Jean Luc, it was evocative of that old trope where our young frustrated protagonist wanders into a bar and provokes a fight with strangers intentionally just to get the shit beat out of them. Except our protagonist in this case is a wreckless 94 year old man stirring up an unnecessary additional conflict on an already life threatening mission and making shitty situations decidedly worse for the people he leaves behind. He's basically like "I failed you guys, see ya!" as he leaves, never to return again.Romulan was now a nobody (as there is no empire anymore) and they were the ones that started to provoke Picard and wanted him dead in the first place, his friend came in to defend him (and Picard didn't want anyone dead)
Almost everything so far seems evocative of some old tropeit was evocative of that old trope where our young frustrated protagonist wanders into a bar and provokes a fight with strangers intentionally just to get the shit beat out of them.
Really interesting to see the polarising reaction to Discovery after the initial episodes, compared to this.
4 episodes in, is Picard better than the first 4 episodes of Discovery?
He was provoking them to appear as a lost cause but he didn't expect anyone to die.I'm no Trekkie but there was some weeeeird stuff going on this episode, no?
Picard goes out of his way to provoke hostilities (because he had a couple minutes to kill before transport and was bored I guess?) and his homeboy straight up decapitates a seemingly important Romulan and his friends (an endangered race now, shouldn't this be a big deal?) in front of a towns worth of people, and then Picard decides to use this newly gathered audience (who just witnessed a grisly triple murder) to deliver a stirring apology speech about how he's done them wrong and potentially broke their faith while this dude's neck stump is assuredly spurting out romulan goo a couple meters from his feet for no reason whatsoever. Then Picard basically slaps the guy on the wrist for murdering 3 people as they flee the scene of the crime.
Hologram seems unlikely given that he's appeared to be injured, and what we've seen of next week's episode.
He was a Starfleet officer with a past so unlikely to be a synth. I think it would be a little too far down the ridiculous line if everyone turned out to be one.Hologram seems unlikely given that he's appeared to be injured, and what we've seen of next week's episode.
He could well be a synth though. Maybe the reason that he has holograms in his image is that he's used to being around someone who looks like he does.
Looks like the introductions are finally done now thoughFour episodes in and barely anything has happened. The pacing of this show is a slog and we're still only just being introduce to new characters.
Yes, he was a Starfleet officer, on a ship that has now been entirely erased from the records. Something weird is happening with that back story.He was a Starfleet officer with a past so unlikely to be a synth.
Sure. It's kind of weird you think this is relevant though, since I'm not talking about "everyone". I'm talking about one character.I think it would be a little too far down the ridiculous line if everyone turned out to be one.
I'm almost certain the two Romulans are those other synths. I can totally see them having learned what they are and are on a mission to destroy where they came from out of disgust. Narek probably has warmed to Soji enough to realise you're more than what you're made fromYes, he was a Starfleet officer, on a ship that has now been entirely erased from the records. Something weird is happening with that back story.
Sure. It's kind of weird you think this is relevant though, since I'm not talking about "everyone". I'm talking about one character.
I think it's pretty clear that at least one existing character will be revealed as a synth. The show keeps explaining that they come in pairs and this episode even reminds us that there's more than just Dahj and Soji out there. There's going to be at least one "character turns out to be aCylonsynth" moment, and it's not going to be Picard or Seven or Elnor, it doesn't seem like the most likely path for Jurati, and Raffi's got even more of a history (including on-screen through flashbacks). I'm not saying anything for certain, but Rios as a synth doesn't seem all that unlikely to me. Certainly not "ridiculous".
Yes, he was a Starfleet officer, on a ship that has now been entirely erased from the records. Something weird is happening with that back story.
Edit: Also the line about Klingon opera and it being a long story seems Worf related to me? Maybe even Dax (since that would be an easy recast for obvious reasons).
What I absolutely do not like is that they completely spoil the guest characters by listing the actor and the character during the intro of the show. They did with Data in episode 1, and they did it again with this episode and 7 of 9. I mean there's a few moments left in the show and a mysterious talented pilot shows up and 7 of 9 has been no where to be seen thus far. Gee, I wonder who this could be? If they do manage to have Q appear in an episode and they note "John DeLancie as Q" during the intro, I am going to go insane.
I feel like everyone missed the character development of Picard over the course of TNG and the movies if Picard in this show seems out of place.
I see zero contradictions between the Picard we knew and this Picard. They are the same person.
First I too found it wierd that Picard was so different, but a LOT of time has passed and the character went through hell. He left Starfleet in shame and lived a life that he didn't really enjoy afterwards. All while still grieving over Data, feeling guilt towards the Romulans and feeling like Starfleet betrayed him after all he did for them.
That changes a man. This Picard desperately wants to make amends but knows he needs the people around him. People he does not command. The way Picard behaves in the show makes sense to me. He left the Chair a long time ago.
That said no matter how much you change your avatar and name, I'll still remember you being IrisComeBack with a Miku avatar! :P
Hahaha, that avatar will come back someday, but not the name ;-) Surprised people remember that stuff on a busy forum like this
Four episodes in and barely anything has happened. The pacing of this show is a slog and we're still only just being introduce to new characters.
This is kind of hilarious. I've got this vision of the finale being an alternative viewpoint of all the events but with Picard being this ailing lunatic causing trouble and leaving a wake of bodies in his path.I'm no Trekkie but there was some weeeeird stuff going on this episode, no?
Picard goes out of his way to provoke hostilities (because he had a couple minutes to kill before transport and was bored I guess?) and his homeboy straight up decapitates a seemingly important Romulan and his friends (an endangered race now, shouldn't this be a big deal?) in front of a towns worth of people, and then Picard decides to use this newly gathered audience (who just witnessed a grisly triple murder) to deliver a stirring apology speech about how he's done them wrong and potentially broke their faith while this dude's neck stump is assuredly spurting out romulan goo a couple meters from his feet for no reason whatsoever. Then Picard basically slaps the guy on the wrist for murdering 3 people as they flee the scene of the crime.
When can I get this Picard?
The only time Picard felt like his proper self is when he went nuts on Romulan boy and admonished him for killing that dude.
I honestly think it makes no sense tbh. Some radical element who are obsessed with killing synthetics makes no sense for the progress of Romulans now. But I guess I don't care, I'm getting more Star Trek .
Have to say this is boring me to tears. Just finished going through all of discovery in 2 weeks which I loved so was really looking forward to more Star Trek.
I still think it can get better so I'm not giving up yet.
This is sort of how I feel. I don't even have an opinion on picard because nothing has happened yet. The single moment thus far that I really liked is when Picard got mad at Romulan Legolas.