Well you see when a man and a woman love each other very much the man usually falls down a shaft to his doom.
Joking aside I think it's fitting that Kylo REN dies falling down a shaft after what his grandfather did to emperor Palpatine
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Star Wars EP.9 Story Rumor/Leak So Far (Spoilers obviously) (Now with poll!)
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Well you see when a man and a woman love each other very much the man usually falls down a shaft to his doom.
Joking aside I think it's fitting that Kylo REN dies falling down a shaft after what his grandfather did to emperor Palpatine
*Palpatine looks over and down the ledge that Ben fell over to his supposed death*
*Palpatine looks over and down the ledge that Ben fell over to his supposed death*
Anakin Skywalker when he sees Palpatine kill his only grandchild thereby extinguishing his line:
This whole thing is fanfiction (or fanfiction level quality). It's getting torn apart on Reddit.
to be fair this is long established about the unknown regions. its called the unknown regions because it is virtually impossible to navigate it. ships who enter it almost always get lost forever.
I mean MSW has reported much of the same things.
Also I pulled the trigger with Ep9 spoilers. Don't care anymore, I'm ready for some fuckery.
What I always thought was a huge misstep was killing Luke at the end of TLJ....
Would've made much more sense to do it in this movie.
Would've made much more sense to do it in this movie.
Welp the leak might be true:
She woke up before him and didn't the blast from the crystal breaking knock him out?
Luke's story is complete in TLJ. No need to drag it out.
Wait did Anakin succeed at bringing balance to the force? Is that what happened?
This is literally a video game boss
Officially, yes, but practically, no.
I mean he's coming back in TROS.
The only way the prophecy makes sense now is if Palpatine really did die before but either got rezzed or is a Force Ghost.
Ben Solo kills Palpatine and so Anakin still gets credit for killing Palpatine.
Or it's about Anakin murdering all the Jedi until it was just Palpatine and Luke left to balance each other....for a time.
Or the prophecy could have always been bullshit and it's impossible to balance the Force.
It wasn't the intention. George Lucas has confirmed that Anakin Skywalker was the Chosen One.
And the TLJ visual dictionary also says that Anakin Skywalker was the Chosen One.
So it is canon that Anakin is .....the Chosen One.
I honestly don't see an issue with this as Yoda accepts that death is part of life and Anakin needs to accept that too. They're not supposed to have attachments as impossible as they might be, it is the ideal for the Jedi. It might be alien to us but the Jedi believe in Stoicism.
Stoicism- "an ancient Greek school of philosophy founded at Athens by Zeno of Citium. The school taught that virtue, the highest good, is based on knowledge; the wise live in harmony with the divine Reason (also identified with Fate and Providence) that governs nature, and are indifferent to the vicissitudes of fortune and to pleasure and pain."
"According to its teachings, as social beings, the path to eudaimonia (happiness) for humans is found in accepting the moment as it presents itself, by not allowing oneself to be controlled by the desire for pleasure or fear of pain, by using one's mind to understand the world and to do one's part in nature's plan, and by working together and treating others fairly and justly. "
I love that Yoda and Anakin conversation, I like the tragic element of it being the last thing Anakin wanted to hear but on its own Yoda isn't saying anything explicitly wrong.
Yoda could sense the turmoil in Anakin but even he was still stuck in his old ways, he's been at it doing this shtick for 900 years. He couldn't address the real emotional needs of Anakin. I love it that he was flawed and wasn't always the ultimate wise master of wisdom, even someone as old as Yoda had the capacity for growth and he ended up becoming a better teacher for Luke.
Yoda could sense the turmoil in Anakin but even he was still stuck in his old ways, he's been at it doing this shtick for 900 years. He couldn't address the real emotional needs of Anakin. I love it that he was flawed and wasn't always the ultimate wise master of wisdom, even someone as old as Yoda had the capacity for growth and he ended up becoming a better teacher for Luke.
How could Rey's parents be killed in a hutt on Jakku but appear during the ending on Tatooine? Wtf
If these leaks are true, they sound like they come from someone who's seen storyboards instead of a script or actual scene shoots.
No. Ending the force makes no sense. The force existed before jedi and sith and will always exist long after them. It's not something that can be "ended" and I'd argue if you remove that from Star Wars it becomes nothing more than a generic scifi western
Taking Luke and Leia out of the final battle just made me really sad :(
Dunno, i always thought the Jedi got that prophecy wrong. At the time when the "chosen one" finally appears, the light side clearly has a majority with the shitload of Jedi that roam the galaxy. Compared to a few Sith that hide away.
In this case, balancing means decimating the Jedi to the amount of Sith ... which is basically what Anakin does.
the whole series is ruined
they have this one movie to turn it around... they won't
Sounds like they're backpedaling on a lot of the bullshit fanservice, which is a good thing.
But Rey's parents now bring on tattooine, Jesus Christ, why is the SW galaxy so small in the ST?
These films are of decent quality but there's just too many iffy story decisions
- Committing to bringing back the old legacy characters and banking hard on nostalgia but then not letting them have any scenes together.
- Choosing not to really explain and explore any of the political machinations that may have happened post-ROTJ and going straight to a reset of the same status quo as the OT.
- Putting Luke on an island for an entire movie because you couldn't really figure out what to do with him.
- Second film betting the entire farm on the "Rey is a nobody" story choice ...
- ... Only to be undercut by the third film going back on that and making her a Palpatine.
- Killing Snoke which then effectively forces Palpatine to literally return back to life ... somehow, even though it stretches pretty much all story credibility.
There's just too much here that doesn't work.
- Committing to bringing back the old legacy characters and banking hard on nostalgia but then not letting them have any scenes together.
- Choosing not to really explain and explore any of the political machinations that may have happened post-ROTJ and going straight to a reset of the same status quo as the OT.
- Putting Luke on an island for an entire movie because you couldn't really figure out what to do with him.
- Second film betting the entire farm on the "Rey is a nobody" story choice ...
- ... Only to be undercut by the third film going back on that and making her a Palpatine.
- Killing Snoke which then effectively forces Palpatine to literally return back to life ... somehow, even though it stretches pretty much all story credibility.
There's just too much here that doesn't work.
A movie series that just had its best film since ESB needs turned around 🤔?
MSW and Paxis are different leakers whose leaks match each other a lot of the time.
That's a very controversial opinion.
Some people think TLJ is the best, others thinks it ruins Star Wars, others think its mediocre and others thinks it's overrated.
I don't think TLJ being the best movie since ESB is the popular opinion among fans tbh.
How is it controversial? When do movies that get near universal acclaim need to be "turned around"?
If you don't like the ST after the first two films (TFA also was critically acclaimed) then it seems silly to expect them to radically change course when the course has been very successful for them for the first two films.
they aren't going to massively change course or rework the storyline too dramatically. As TFA and TLJ clearly worked for most. So following that ground work in story and style should be expected.
Man I hate this. The Last Jedi had issues, but generally speaking, I thought it was enjoyable.
I can't overstate how much I hate Luke and Leia coming back to finish off Palpatine.
I can't overstate how much I hate Luke and Leia coming back to finish off Palpatine.
Well the latest scuttle is they don't.
The third act spoilers basically are changing every day at this point.
Same. I wanted the glorious awfulness that it would have been.
Two different leakers. One says they come back as disembodied voices for the final battle while the other says they're there fighting.
Idk why you made that response geared to me. I only said that it's a controversial movie and while it does have universal acclaim among critics, there's quite a large disconnect between fans and critics.
I'm not even talking about hardcore fans. Even casual fans were disappointed in certain aspects. But you'd probably need a poll to really believe it.
Empire is 40 years old. Movie storytelling has grown since then. Dramatic fantasy has been done better. Fanservice has been done better. Being as good as Empire or brand new like the original SW is not enough.
JJ had a massive sandbox going into TFA. Killing classic character after character while not making the newer ones interesting enough, and literally closing it altogether with end of the "Skywalker Saga".
These leaks suggest a total and comically bad erasure of the Skywalker family. It doesn't just offend me as a casual fan, but as a fan of movie writing as well.
None of the spinoffs are worth what happens to Luke and/or his family (if the leaks are true).
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