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Star Wars Episode IX early concept art emerges
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I was more thinking they would rule the Empire under different circumstances. It's not really fit for SW anyway, since it's so sterile.
The real problem with that flashback scene is that they didn't make Flashback Luke do the Luke thing. Y'know, the double-handed grip, lightsabre way out in front of him, back foot way out behind; classic Luke. He does it in The Last Jedi and you're like YOOO that's my boiiii, but here Flashback Luke just does a bunch of Prequel Jedi twirly-whirls that don't read as Luke at all. This movie has the weirdest approach to fanservice, jamming it in in eye-rolling ways but then totally missing the no-brainer moments.
Also Kylo never does one of his signature drama bitch foot-stomp sabre hunches:
What I'm saying is that this movie is a 0/10, literally the worst movie ever made.
That trailer clip from Force Awakens isn't in the movie FYI so technically he only does it in TLJ.
What's funny is that, compared to JJ's films, much of the concept art in TLJ is still reflected in the movie. The TLJ art book is actually kind of boring lol
Because the script was complete, production was smooth and RJ had a clear vision.
Yeah, TLJ was by far the smoothest production with the most clear vision.
Revenge of the Sith had a lot of unused ideas in the art book too though, like Palpatine leading an army with a sword.
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Now this shows a pure lack of imagination. The whole point of such a scenario would be to show her to take the far more pragmatic route of destroying the FO from the inside rather than repeating the whole rag tag plunky group destroying a big evil empire.
How about, don't just create another example of a really misogynistic trope in media.
Oh sure, women being powerful and evil and using their sexuality as a weapon is so misogynistic. Women are sexually objectified by men all the time but the moment a woman sexually objectifies a man you call misogyny?
What kind of backwards-arse logic is that?
I would absolutely prefer the sequel trilogy to have had a powerful and manipulative woman as the big bad who was comfortable with her sexuality and used it to exploit men. It would've been way better than Snoke or Palpatine, more wrinkly old men.
But sure, let's stick with the way a bunch of men wrote the women in the sequel trilogy. Who doesn't love Rey constantly chasing and trying to redeem a man that physically and emotionally abuses her? Or Rose existing soley for some sappy bullshit about saving what we love? Or Holdo being treated like shit by a man she outranked?
Why are men always so opposed to women being in a position of power, particularly over men? It's infuriating when men say it's "misogynistic", as if they're somehow protecting us from sexual freedom. I'm mind blown that fucking Harley Quinn explores how women overcome abusive relationships better than Star Wars.
God, the idea that Rose went from having a major part and maybe even her own sweet-ass spaceship in Trevorrow's movie to basically being written out of JJ's is brutal with a capital B. Just ice cold.
DAMN these look dark af but I love it. Can't change the past now but it would be cool if these sorts of themes are repurposed for future movies.
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Pretty much done well it would have instantly changed the dynamics of the film's to the degrees that they didn't just repeat Darth Vader's story again which was the intention from the start and why this trilogy was doomed to fall into the mess it's currently in.
Say what you want about Lucas' directing ability, but you cannot take away from him that he made a point for each trilogy to be different - to make each its own thing.
Having a woman as the Sith Lord, making her young, powerful and alien, embracing the dark side of the Force not just through anger and hatred but also love and devotion... Vader served Palpatine out of fear, but his grandson would serve Darth Talon out of love.
The best part is you'd never know if you actually loved her or she was using the Force to make you and she could really fuck the heroes up when they confront her about it by asking them "did Padmé love Anakin as much as he loved her?"
It's almost like it would have been a real good idea for Lucasfilm to hire women to direct at least one if not all of these films. Perhaps then people wouldn't have been as opposed to this idea.
In case people haven't been paying attention, there have been multiple current and upcoming films directed by by and starring women, which are unafraid to allow their leads to showcase their sexuality - but said leads use it as a tool for getting what they want, rather than it being in service of male leads. We need more of these films. In fact, we could use more films that just have women's sexual needs and desires at the forefront without them driving some greater plot or agenda. Because we are already drowning in films where at least part of the focus of the plot is that a poor awkward (and almost invariably white) man can't get laid and/or find a girlfriend, boohoo.
Or, I dunno, they could have just ended this new star wars trilogy with Rey obliterating Kylo Ren, and without her continuing to attempt to save him for most of the final film. Even Colin's draft still had Rey sobbing for half the film over not wanting to give up hope that Kylo can be redeemed. But why would this be necessary? He made his choice at the end of TLJ, and he almost killed Rey and all her allies. Why does this nazi fuckwit deserve seemingly infinite chances at redemption?
I mean, It's not like Luke spent most of Return of the Jedi trying to redeem his father. It was secondary to his mission of defeating the Emperor, and Luke was failing miserably at it for most of the throne room scene. Which is what made Vader's heel-face-turn at the end all the more remarkable and memorable. TROS didn't just retread this ground, it retread it with zero understanding of why the film it cribbed from worked. If Vader had turned on the Emperor halfway through Jedi, and had already teamed up with Luke by the time they both reached the Throne Room (and had matching green lightsabers to boot), nobody would have taken that shit seriously. Cause his heel-face-turn was already controversial all the way back in 1983.
Very true, Lucas is an ideas man and one that actively tried in general to break from his previous work work and flesh out the universe of star wars. Now you could argue he did that too much or don't like his ideas conceptually but he didn't like to repeat for the sake of repeating it (though he did like his poetry).
He was also deathly aware of how male centric star wars was as a whole and how stale it made it, and you can see it in ahsoka's existence and his version of the ST both starring a woman and having her primary antagonist be a women rather than another emperor proxy.
Now the execution is one thing but he's great at setting out and putting in the bones. I feel like the ST would have done far better if they worked with Lucas overall vision reigned in some of his poorer impulses while putting their own spin than toss out large chunks and follow an extremely poor trilogy guideline to just remake the OT
Yeah, one of the most annoying things about this sequel trilogy is that it's the first time we get female-led Star Wars movies and yet none of them are written or directed by women. What's even the point? You're not getting movies about women, you're getting movies about what men think of women.
It's no real surprise Leia was the best written woman in the new trilogy given how much of it she wrote herself.
Yep. Especially cause it's Carrie Fisher. Absolutely legendary woman, RIP.
Why is Rey turning evil the onus for destroying the FO from the inside when it's literally run by two manchildren who in a good film would fight and tear the FO apart.
The way it's been used in media was absolutely inspired by misogynistic ideas about women and their sexuality.
You misunderstand the trope if you think that it's about women sexually objectifying men in order to turn them evil. The trope is rarely if ever portrayed from anything BUT the male gaze.
The focus wasn't on wrinkly old men until the last film
The film literally portrays this as a naive idea on Rey's part that not only nearly gets her killed but also results in the person she wanted to save becoming more evil.
SW was never about killing things with the power of hate.
Which the film literally portrays as the man being in the wrong right down to Leia blasting him when she wakes up.
Again your missing the point, Rey is not turning evil.
I don't think saying Star wars not about wrinkly old men but young boys! is really countering or engaging with what the're talking about.
Rey's naivete literally led to her letting Kylo become space hitler. She's not the "destroy from the inside" type of character and wears her emotions on her sleeve. The situation presented made it impossible for the scenario you're presenting. As the resistance was literally getting blown up outside.
That's your boxed in and limited view point of the character, there's a lot that could be explored under that context allowing for greater introspection for kylo and Rey's characters under such circumstances while giving finn and poe space to breath as more traditional heroes.
Literally what indication do we have that she'd be any good at espionage? Like, name a single scene. Hll, you're describing something Finn would be much more suited for.
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None of this art is from Trevorrow's versions.
Some beautiful work in here from artists I was lucky enough to work with, but nothing from our story. Credit where credit is due. Love @PhilSzostak's books...
art tends to look cool, till someone directs it and puts it to life...
After seeing all of the material re: Treverrow's version, I can just as well say that I was right that his version would have been better.
He's a bad director, but his vision was a lot more creative and interesting.
He's a bad director, but his vision was a lot more creative and interesting.
looooool
That's so dumb it's good again. Have an ATST kick it like a football
"BBattle station" would've been a written line in a major motion picture
We were robbed of that
We were robbed of that
Yup, they really shouldn't have staged the release like this.
She quite literally murders his ass after several unsuccessful attempts.
Trevorrow tweeted that none of the artwork in the Art of book is from his script
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The artwork in the book was from TROS, but some ideas were obviously carried over from DOTF to TROS. Things like punished Coruscant, dual-wielding Rey, evil Kylo, etc.
Lmao