This is just fucking stupid. Not that it won't probably be true, it's just fucking stupid.
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Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker Announced; Official Teaser Trailer
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This is just fucking stupid. Not that it won't probably be true, it's just fucking stupid.
The whole thing about disappearing into the Unknown Regions to rebuild there is one of his directives, IIRC. Can't remember the exact details from Aftermath, but it's part of why Jakku happened - dude had an observatory on the planet.
didn't he basically feel snoke already out there? I remember reading it and it seeming like an obvious hint at snoke
This is a good post
I don't hate the movie like some, but TLJ killed any momentum for me in terms of looking forward to IX
Of all the things I'd change about TLJ, and I say this as not a fan of what they did with Luke, I think I'd change the throne room scene - I'd get Rey and Ben taking up together and genuinely rejecting the Jedi and the Sith in equal measure as Ben at one point was suggesting
It would have given a curiousity factor to IX that just isn't there right now
'Lets bring back Palp' feels pretty tacky right now. I await the movie as they may pull it off, but my faith isn't sky high
The new EU novels setup a lot of Palpatine contingency plan stuff, heavily hinting he has a plan for if ROTJ went bad as it did. I think people just assumed it would go nowhere.
But now with Kathy Kennedy coming out and saying it has been the plan at Lucasfilm for Palpatine to be in IX since day 1 of this new era of Star Wars its pretty clear that the Palpatine hinting and setup in the novels was related to this.
I would be super excited if Palpatine moved the Kamino cloning facilities to a planet in the Unknown Regions, so they could work on cloning him should he die, and Snoke was actually tasked with ensuring everything went smoothly.
The one thing I feel most confident in is Kylo killing Snoke and declaring himself in charge of the First Order is what kickstarts Palpatine coming out of the shadows and getting his hands dirty.
Palpatine was Sheev's Heartless.
Snoke was his Nobody.
Now that both have been defeated the original Senate himself is back to fulfill his ambitions of taking over the force by forging the ultimate lightsaber. The Lite-Saber.
Rey must now find a way to restore Luke whose essence is asleep within her and find the lost lights Ezra Bridger and Ahsoka Tano. Together with Finn, Rose, Poe and Chewbacca they are the seven lights that will face OG Sheev's thirteen Darknesses which include revived versions of Anakin, Vader, Dooku, Ventress, Palpatine and Snoke together with Sheev and the 6 Knights of Ren.
They'll be waiting for Rey in the land where it all began. The Saber Graveyard.
Reconnect.
The Force.
Snoke was his Nobody.
Now that both have been defeated the original Senate himself is back to fulfill his ambitions of taking over the force by forging the ultimate lightsaber. The Lite-Saber.
Rey must now find a way to restore Luke whose essence is asleep within her and find the lost lights Ezra Bridger and Ahsoka Tano. Together with Finn, Rose, Poe and Chewbacca they are the seven lights that will face OG Sheev's thirteen Darknesses which include revived versions of Anakin, Vader, Dooku, Ventress, Palpatine and Snoke together with Sheev and the 6 Knights of Ren.
They'll be waiting for Rey in the land where it all began. The Saber Graveyard.
Reconnect.
The Force.
Oh please, that's just marketing. What they really mean is they threw around ideas at the start and one of them included bringing back Palpatine, they had no idea they would actually do it two movies later.
I wonder if this means Sloane will be in Episode IX. She'd easily be in her 70s by now, but she could've stayed behind in the Unknown Regions while Snoke took a fleet of their ships to destroy the New Republic. If Palpatine does have a cloning factory out there, she could be the one who turns it on after Snoke dies as per Palpatine's own contingencies.
It would be kind of crazy for the lead character in a videogame to be a major antagonist behind the scenes of the trilogy, but it would make perfect sense and Chuck Wendig here may be saying she's quite important. Plus it would imply that unlike certain other franchises, the stuff that happens in the novels and videogames are indeed canon and won't just get cheeky nods in the movies but are an integral part of them.
If this is a huge hit it will be because JJ has rescued the franchise from TLJ. If it isn't, it will be because TLJ damaged the franchise irreparably.
It is known.
Go back a week and it was the same, but the other way around. Every bad choice in The Last Jedi was because Abrams wrote it into a corner or because he didn't give Johnson any choice but to do things in a certain way.
This shit is like a neverending circle, except we used to just blame George Lucas for everything.
"If this is a huge hit it will be because Lucas has rescued the franchise from Lucas. If it isn't, it will be because Lucas damaged the franchise irreparably."
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Nope, various parts of it were retconned but Triclops and the Mofference are canon, baby! Well, were canon.
I actually remember reading the series when I was 7 and kind of liking it, lol
The whole saga is about the Skywalker family if you didn't get that by now.
Thanks for this summation. This is how I feel. Between the iconoclasm, the abandonment of any character development for Ben, and the abhorrent behavior of Luke (we went form thinking he went to the First Jedi Temple to learn how to defeat Snoke and free Ben to learning that he was a coward and an asshole who just wanted to fuck off and die) TLJ was a horrible film for me and many like me.
We don't know now. That was what was implied before they killed off Snoke without any backstory but now it appears that it is was the Grysk.
Star Wars will never die. There will be new Star Wars movies being made long after you and the rest of us are dead.
Hahaha perfect!"Didn't you know, young Jedi? I was always there."
The franchise is absolutely showing cracks, and the MCU has all but stealed it's position as pop culture Juggernaut.
"If it bleeds..."
"My franchise is unkillable so I'll do the bare minimum effort" has never worked.
Nah, Star Wars is still king in the US. Overseas Marvel is far larger but in America Star Wars remains the undisputed king.
Such a dumb comment. THIS TRILOGY IS THE CONCLUSION OF THE SKYWALKER SAGA, and was always going to be. I really don't understand how some of you don't get that. If you don't like it, there will be an entire new trilogy after this one that is NOT the same story. Until then, please go watch something else and stop whining about how this 9th and final installment of the Skywalker saga references the Skywalkers. Damn.
If it makes over 900 mil domestic and beats TFA, I will agree.
Yes they're bringing back Luke like Gandalf! So happy if they retcon terrible end to Last Jedi.
We went from thinking...
That was within the character of Luke Skywalker we had come to know from the OT, not giving up, not running away. So the drastic character assassination in TLJ wasn't something any of us could predict.
Did you had the same issue when TFA released? Because thats were they set this stuff up.
I don't know where you're going with this. They're both owned by Disney. There's no competition there. If Endgame breaks two billion like Infinity War and The Force Awakens, then all that comes from it is that Disney will be able to point at three or four movies - since there's no telling yet how much Episode IX might make - and say "oh hey, remember when breaking a billion was a big deal?"
Can't even say "call me when either beats James Cameron" 'cause Disney owns his biggest sellers too now.
Are they filming now? Is Hamill looking trim and sporting a beard?
I'd love it if they Gandalfed him.
Palpatine can't outlive Luke Skywalker surely!? This isn't Game of Thrones!
I thought they´re all dead by now? There is no Skywalker left? Well I should have watch TLJ longer than 20min. but I couldn´t cuz it was so fucking miserable. Yes you´re right. I should leave this joke of a "saga" alone. Sorry for not resisting enough to keep my hot takes for myself but it´s true: Star Wars is a big pile of crap since the release of the Special Edition xD Geez I appreciate even the prequels more now.
Yeah, they've been referencing Palpatine, his contingency plans, and his desire to find immortality in various media since before TFA released
Luke could have hidden himself to build strength and anew Jedi crew. No point in spaffing it all away by fighting the Knights of Ren.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to"
Ep 9: Rise of the Skywalker.
And Sidius laugh...this is ep VII level of pandering. I have no hope whatsoever.
Ep 9: Rise of the Skywalker.
And Sidius laugh...this is ep VII level of pandering. I have no hope whatsoever.
Message and theme of TLJ: 'Let the past die. Kill it. Move on from the characters you know. The old guard are gone'
Episode IX: 'Palpatines behind it all'
It may play better in the movie, but calling BS on Palpatine's return being planned beforehand as some kind of super long game, equally with this being marketed as the end of the Skywalker saga.
Rey, Finn et al just weren't developed properly enough to carry IX alone and they need to fall back on the old familiars. Genuinely think they should have either had Luke feature more prominently from TFA onwards or just been brave and not had the old characters at all.
As such it's felt like a half and half approach between pleasing all sides that just wasn't thought through
Episode IX: 'Palpatines behind it all'
It may play better in the movie, but calling BS on Palpatine's return being planned beforehand as some kind of super long game, equally with this being marketed as the end of the Skywalker saga.
Rey, Finn et al just weren't developed properly enough to carry IX alone and they need to fall back on the old familiars. Genuinely think they should have either had Luke feature more prominently from TFA onwards or just been brave and not had the old characters at all.
As such it's felt like a half and half approach between pleasing all sides that just wasn't thought through
Palps finds a loophole by being undead.
edit: Lifejumper is right that's not the message of the movie, this is why Rey goes to war with him.
Considering how he left a map behind and went to a special location, most people thought he was doing something special there back during TFA. It was only TLJ that settled it on him doing nothing all those years and just hiding out, uninterested in ever getting involved with the outside world again.
"Let the past die" is not the point of view of TLJ. "Learn from the failures of the past and be better than it rather than running from it" is. Stop letting one line said by a dude who was just desperately trying to get the girl he likes to take over the galaxy with him define the whole movie.
And even if that WAS the message, guess what this movie is about? Ending a 40 year long saga. It's almost like it's... moving on from the past after this, but taking one last nostalgic romp around the galaxy before it does it
And even if that WAS the message, guess what this movie is about? Ending a 40 year long saga. It's almost like it's... moving on from the past after this, but taking one last nostalgic romp around the galaxy before it does it