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Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker Announced; Official Teaser Trailer

Oct 26, 2017
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But his mind was twisted by Snoke's dark influence. Just saying they're different in very important ways, I like them both as villains and there's a reason Ren can't keep up the facade. That doesn't make him a bad character IMO.
It wasn't just twisted by Snoke, even when he was in Leia's womb she sensed the darkside in him.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Japan
Okay here's my pitch that's just fanfic but The Emperor coming back at this point is pretty much fanfic.

Luke comes back like Gandalf in some epic showdown against The Emperor while simultaneously Rey is fighting Kylo. Two masters, two apprentices, two generations, the final showdown.

It sounds ridiculous but once again, The Emperor is making a comeback so why not just go full circle and embrace the fantasy element of this space fantasy.
 
Oct 27, 2017
5,039
Okay here's my pitch that's just fanfic but The Emperor coming back at this point is pretty much fanfic.

Luke comes back like Gandalf in some epic showdown against The Emperor while simultaneously Rey is fighting Kylo. Two masters, two apprentices, two generations, the final showdown.

It sounds ridiculous but once again, The Emperor is making a comeback so why not just go full circle and embrace the fantasy element of this space fantasy.
As far as whether this will actually happen, I really don’t think it’s so ridiculous
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Prediction: Luke is actually talking to Ben in that teaser, not Rey. JJ is faking the shit out of people making them think the title somehow refers to Rey but it’s Ben.
Could be.

“No. Strike me down in anger, and I will always be with you. Just like your father.”

“We’ll always be with you.”
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Kilmonger was only partially correct in that King T'Chaka, and rulers before him, were wrong to turn a blind eye to the suffering of black peoples around the world, but the movie roundly rejects the idea that Wakanda should resist systemic oppression thru violent uprising.

The message I took from TLJ is that you cannot escape your past by running and hiding (like Luke) or by burning it all down (like Kylo). The only way to grow beyond your mistakes is to face them head on and take the good with the bad.
Yeah that’s exactly what TLJ was saying. Which makes some of the throwing up of hands over IX making returns and callbacks (with a story purpose unlike Hoth 2.0 etc in TLJ) a little weird.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Boy oh boy, so many terrible hot takes from a trailer that doesn't really tell us much.

Someone quote this post when:
1.) Rey isn't really a Skywalker, but she takes the name to honor Luke (She has no last name...)
2.) Palpatine isn't the "Secret big bad", but his evil spirit shows up in some sort of "Sith Tomb" kind of way (Kind of like the Old Republic!) to torment our heroes as they go looking for something important.
3.) The saga wraps up really well.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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They'll use prototype time travel gear in the Death Star 2 to go back and kill Sheev while he's still on Nabbo at the beginning of Episode 1.

Movie ends with Rey and Ben coming back as Jedi Masters in Luke's Temple with secret knowledge of what they did.
 

TAJ

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Oct 28, 2017
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It reminding me of a BSG episode was precisely why I liked the Poe parts tbh lol

But yeah fuck all that Rose/Finn shit btw. Also I remember when they cast Benicio Del Toro and I thought he was gonna be some imposing dark side badass :(

Speaking of Benicio...
Does he really talk like a snake and make weird sound effects in TLJ or was that some Auralnauts-style fuckery?
 
Dec 3, 2018
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I don’t think it’s kylo controlling the ship, I think it’s Rey herself. She is training and using her Jedi mind to move the ship around.
Kylo dies in the middle of the movie at the hands of the emperor.
Rey learns she is sky walker lineage ,
Emperor has become the strongest force in the universe as he is the last sith
Rey is also the strong as she is the last Jedi
Rey channels the ghosts of all the past Jedi’s including anakin in her fight against the emperor
 
Oct 27, 2017
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This would be the dumbest fake out in the history of SW, and that's saying something.
They did a similar trailer speech fake out for Winter Solider with the Alexander Pierce character. This is JJ so its probably another misdirect like Finn with the light saber from all TFA marketing.
 
Dec 3, 2017
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There is a curious lack of Kylo in this preview which kinda makes me think they’re downplaying his role for some reason lol
They're not gonna suddenly turn Kylo into the hero. Everything indicates that this is Rey's movie. It's a teaser trailer and Kylo's scenes probably lean on the spoilerly side so they're deep in the vault at this point.
 
Prediction: Luke is actually talking to Ben in that teaser, not Rey. JJ is faking the shit out of people making them think the title somehow refers to Rey but it’s Ben.
I don't actually know why people think it's Rey anyway. Ben is already a Skywalker, except he's one that has tried very hard to "kill his past" and pretend he's someone else. It's more likely he simply accepts who he is and takes the Skywalker name for himself than Rey turns out to be Luke's daughter or something.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I think Rey will take the name, but not be a Skywalker by blood. I was thinking this back after TFA.

As for the rest, well. I had the weirdest dream this morning about it:
Kylo is grievously injured in the field. His own men strangle him when he's unconcscious and get his helmet fixed in order to replace him with their own puppet imposter. Helmet Kylo is a phony.

Then I woke up.
 
Apr 14, 2018
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Canada
I'm not sure the title is referring to anyone being a Skywalker, my assumption is that "Skywalker" is the name of something, either a construction (a base or a starship) or a new order of Jedi (the "Order of Skywalker" or whatever). Have it be Rey making sure the Skywalker name survives for generations or something like that.
 
Nov 2, 2017
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Prediction: Luke is actually talking to Ben in that teaser, not Rey. JJ is faking the shit out of people making them think the title somehow refers to Rey but it’s Ben.
Yeah, that was my thought. Seems too obvious to refer to Rey but Ben/Kylo actually is a Skywalker.

From a personal perspective I know it's only a trailer but I hope the final film isn't as fan service-ey as it implies. It's like a tick sheet of things the most vocal fans want to see. Here's Kylo fixing his mask, here's the death star, here's the emperor, here's Skywalker in the actual title.

I appreciate it's a teaser to get people excited but for me it's a shame that the work in TLJ to move the series somewhere different appears to be being pushed aside.

On a side note I saw the bit with Carrie Fisher in but sub-consciously didn't twig that obviously it's been done after her death!
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, that was my thought. Seems too obvious to refer to Rey but Ben/Kylo actually is a Skywalker.

From a personal perspective I know it's only a trailer but I hope the final film isn't as fan service-ey as it implies. It's like a tick sheet of things the most vocal fans want to see. Here's Kylo fixing his mask, here's the death star, here's the emperor, here's Skywalker in the actual title.

I appreciate it's a teaser to get people excited but for me it's a shame that the work in TLJ to move the series somewhere different appears to be being pushed aside.

On a side note I saw the bit with Carrie Fisher in but sub-consciously didn't twig that obviously it's been done after her death!
At this point it's probably wise to just accept the fanservice and roll with it. I'm a fan of TLJ's much reviled "subversiveness", especially in regard to Luke's character, but I'm fully onboard with a more rollicking, adventurous final chapter that fully trades in on spectacle and nostalgic dramatics. We need catharsis after the dark and lore-focused TLJ and JJ's the man to bring it. Just thank the maker we dodged a Trevorrow-shaped bullet.

I expect and look forward to boundary-pushing and series redefinition with Rian's trilogy.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The funniest thing came into my mind now. A lot of people complained that TLJ (and even TFA to some extent) makes the end of RotJ totally useless and ruins the Star Wars forever and yet everybody would be so happy to have Palpatine alive which would be a total retcon of that end.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Maybe Palpatine learned how to force project himself after dying that allowed him to take the form of anyone in the living world, similar to Luke's force projection in The Last Jedi
 

Jadusable

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Oct 27, 2017
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Bringing Palpatine back is very hokey, but I think I understand why.

The more I think about it if I was JJ and scrambling to pick up the pieces after TLJ... in order to counteract the ridiculousness of Snoke’s unceremonious death I think the only solution would be to make Snoke not an actual character at all and just be another failed clone of Palpatine, so when we want more explaination behind Snoke’s motivations or backstory we can just have Palpatine deliver it.

It’s ugly but that’s the best case scenario. I got nothing for poor admiral ackbar tho
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Bringing Palpatine back is very hokey, but I think I understand why.

The more I think about it if I was JJ and scrambling to pick up the pieces after TLJ... in order to counteract the ridiculousness of Snoke’s unceremonious death I think the only solution would be to make Snoke not an actual character at all and just be another failed clone of Palpatine, so when we want more explaination behind Snoke’s motivations or backstory we can just have Palpatine deliver it.

It’s ugly but that’s the best case scenario. I got nothing for poor admiral ackbar tho
Who cares about ackbar? Hes just a meme.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Why do people keep calling Snoke a failed clone when we know for a fact that he's from the outer rim and was actually trying to contact Palpatine? Or the fact that.....Snoke is literally not human, he's an alien.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I also think they might show him off more in the next trailer. If he is the villain of the movie, more than just a background cameo, then they’d want to tease it now and sell the movie based on his role as the antagonist later.

Of course his role could be minor. But this is how you’d dip your toe into the marketing if he weren’t....
Likewise if he isn't shown in the next trailer, I will then be 100% convinced he'll be no more than a brief cameo, or a voice recording at worst.