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Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker Announced; Official Teaser Trailer

Oct 25, 2017
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Millions of people have probably tweeted what they thought Episode 7 was going to be called. Millions were wrong. This guy guessed Rise of Skywalker because following the Return of the Jedi it's not that outlandish of a title. The Emperor somehow surviving for a hypothetical Episode 7 wouldn't have been that outlandish. He doesn't know anything, it was a guess for an Episode 7 (which this isn't) that only stands out now because it happens to be the title of Episode 9 and maybe the Emperor is alive (or maybe he is a ghost, or maybe there are flashback scenes of him).
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I'm really glad he's back. I know Vader is more visually iconic, but Palpatine is just such an incredible bad guy. Vader is cold and ruthless but Palps is even more ruthless and loves every second of it. That's one Big Bad that really enjoys his job of manipulating, murdering and conquering and he's so good at it!

He made the Jedi, the Republic, the Separatists and even his own minions look stupid as they were playing a game against him they could never win because they had no idea it had even started. And he won! He actually won. Luke and Anakin may have been able to defeat him eventually, but like every good bad guy it seems like killing him once just isn't enough.

Snoke had potential but he's dead now so bringing Palpatine back instead works. Rian Johnson's really stupid plot decisions may actually pay off in the end after all. Abrams just might actually make it work.
I'd also like to add that the Palpatine we got at the end of Revenge of the SIth wasn't nearly enough. I've seen what he can do in The Clone Wars and I would love nothing more than to see that in film.
 
I'd also like to add that the Palpatine we got at the end of Revenge of the SIth wasn't nearly enough. I've seen what he can do in The Clone Wars and I would love nothing more than to see that in film.
Oh yeah, various comics also showed that he's incredibly powerful and I'd say the CGI capabilities have improved enough that it would look pretty fantastic now.

Could you imagine something like this?

 
Oct 25, 2017
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Could this desert be Jeddah from Rogue One?
That's interesting...

I had a thought earlier too. It's a wishful thought, however. I want to see a new lightsaber. And, well, Rogue One informed us that the Death Star weapon uses the same crystals as lightsabers. Might Rey craft a new lightsaber with a crystal from Death Star II?
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Could this desert be Jeddah from Rogue One?
It's a good question becauseJedha is, you know, historically the place where you'd go to get new lightsaber crystals *wink wink* and the scenes for IX were filmed where Jedha was filmed (and not where Tatooine or Jakku were filmed), but the comics portrayed Jedha as an environmentally ravaged place after the Death Star so it's ultimately highly unlikely.
 
It's a good question becauseJedha is, you know, historically the place where you'd go to get new lightsaber crystals *wink wink* and the scenes for IX were filmed where Jedha was filmed (and not where Tatooine or Jakku were filmed), but the comics portrayed Jedha as an environmentally ravaged place after the Death Star so it's ultimately highly unlikely.
Maybe they'll travel to our galaxy, borrow the Time Gem off Thanos, go back half a century and grab some khyber crystals.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Oh yeah, various comics also showed that he's incredibly powerful and I'd say the CGI capabilities have improved enough that it would look pretty fantastic now.

Could you imagine something like this?

Meh, the power levels demonstrated on film by Jedi were always far, far less impressive than what was in the comics, games and book even when they had the tech (like in 2 & 3).
 
Oct 25, 2017
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These guys have really dropped off..like what a waste of time that was to create.
I can see what they're trying to say though, in that Palpatine coming back does kind of cripple the finality of death in the series itself. It's like when Superman died and came back, and death ceased to have nearly as much consequence in comic books from then on.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I can see what they're trying to say though, in that Palpatine coming back does kind of cripple the finality of death in the series itself. It's like when Superman died and came back, and death ceased to have nearly as much consequence in comic books from then on.
But we don't know if Palpatine comes back to life. All we know is Ian Mcdiarmid is coming back to reprise the role. It could be one of those android emperor stand-ins, a force ghost, who knows?

Also, I'm not sure Luke saying "No one is ever really gone" is meant to be taken literally. It could mean that the people and experiences you have stay with you all your life, even if they die/go away. But, again, we don't know the context of that line.

Star Wars trailers, especially recent ones, have been very deceiving when it comes to plot/theme.

We'll have to wait and see, but RLM's reaction seems a bit... premature.
 
Meh, the power levels demonstrated on film by Jedi were always far, far less impressive than what was in the comics, games and book even when they had the tech (like in 2 & 3).
Yeah, that's true. I guess it's possible that'll change now that the movies are embracing the more impressive examples of Force strength. Wouldn't have seen what Yoda did in The Last Jedi fifteen years ago.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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But we don't know if Palpatine comes back to life. All we know is Ian Mcdiarmid is coming back to reprise the role. It could be one of those android emperor stand-ins, a force ghost, who knows?

Also, I'm not sure Luke saying "No one is ever really gone" is meant to be taken literally. It could mean that the people and experiences you have stay with you all your life, even if they die/go away. But, again, we don't know the context of that line.

Star Wars trailers, especially recent ones, have been very deceiving when it comes to plot/theme.

We'll have to wait and see, but RLM's reaction seems a bit... premature.
Yeah, that's fair, though if I were a betting man, all the context leads me to believe Palpatine will have a physical presence. As for RLM, they're most famous for being the Star Wars critics above anything else, so of course their fans will eat up something like this.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Really a shame they didn't plan an overall arc for this trilogy. Poor JJ trying to patch this leaking boat.
It seems like ending the story with Palpatine returning in some form has been intended from the beginning if a recent Kathleen Kennedy interview is to be believed. And Lucasfilm seems to have had some sense of what they wanted because they fired Colin Trevorrow for having creative differences with them (which was the right call; Trevorrow is a terrible writer).
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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What if Palpatine is just a Force Ghost on the Death Star wreckage and is like "lol you'll never defeat Kylo Ren he is too dreamy" or something I dunno. This whole thing is probably just a big misdirection like the Force Awakens trailers where we thought Finn was going to be the new Jedi.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I really like the idea brought up of Force ghost Luke and Palpatine being the angel and devil on Kylo Ren's shoulder.
If Luke wasn't dead, he could have been that in real life, they could have made a whole movie about Luke trying to bring Kylo back. But nooooooooooooooo, fkn RJ.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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If Luke wasn't dead, he could have been that in real life, they could have made a whole movie about Luke trying to bring Kylo back. But nooooooooooooooo, fkn RJ
Yea, let’s make a whole other movie about Luke doing the same fkn thing he did in ROTJ but this time with his nephew instead of his father. Riveting stuff.
 
If Luke wasn't dead, he could have been that in real life, they could have made a whole movie about Luke trying to bring Kylo back. But nooooooooooooooo, fkn RJ.
Honestly, when Snoke died any purpose in the movie that Luke might have had to directly affect events in the trilogy kinda went out the window. Bringing Ben to his senses is the sort of thing that would fall to Rey.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Yea, let’s make a whole other movie about Luke doing the same fkn thing he did in ROTJ but this time with his nephew instead of his father. Riveting stuff.
Let's make a movie about nothing instead. Riveting stuff :p

The situation at the beginning of TLJ is exactly the same at the end.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I had a thought earlier too. It's a wishful thought, however. I want to see a new lightsaber. And, well, Rogue One informed us that the Death Star weapon uses the same crystals as lightsabers. Might Rey craft a new lightsaber with a crystal from Death Star II?
The friend of mine who showed me that spaceship pic I shared a few pages back has been going on and on about how the only wish he has for Episode IX is for Rey to build her own lightsaber haha

I think that would basically be the final act for her to establish herself apart from the Skywalkers
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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I can see what they're trying to say though, in that Palpatine coming back does kind of cripple the finality of death in the series itself. It's like when Superman died and came back, and death ceased to have nearly as much consequence in comic books from then on.
We have no idea of Palpatine is actually coming back to life or if he just has something to do with the story. There is no finality to death in Star Wars. We’ve known that since Obi-Wan.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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There is a curious lack of Kylo in this preview which kinda makes me think they’re downplaying his role for some reason lol
The tone Luke has doesn't make sense for him to be talking to Kylo, and "we've passed down everything we know" "a thousand generations live in you now" make no sense in that context
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The tone Luke has doesn't make sense for him to be talking to Kylo, and "we've passed down everything we know" "a thousand generations live in you now" make no sense in that context
BTW can we take a moment to appreciate how great the "a thousand generations live in you now" line is?
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I can see what they're trying to say though, in that Palpatine coming back does kind of cripple the finality of death in the series itself. It's like when Superman died and came back, and death ceased to have nearly as much consequence in comic books from then on.
That's such a bizarre take to have about a series that owes so much to Buddhism.

If the Jedi seek to attain enlightenment and become one with the Force, it makes perfect sense that the Sith do everything they can to cheat death.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I don't really want to make a thread about this (Star Wars discourse, especially when concerning TLJ, is just awful right now), but let's try this:

Movie Critic Bob Chipman (Moviebob) makes some good points here:

https://www.escapistmagazine.com/v2/2019/04/15/rise-of-sigh-walker/

There's been talk on this site and elsewhere about how much JJ Abrams is retconning/changing from TLJ as a way to "fix" the Star Ward franchise, even though we know TLJ:

-made over a billion at the box office
-racked up some of the most positive reviews in the history of the franchise
-was the best selling blu-ray of 2018
-led to Rian Johnson being given an entire new Star Wars trilogy to write

We also know JJ made changes to TFA based on communicarion with Rian Johnson while making TLJ script and said that he wish he wrote TLJ script.

It's made some of the discussion around The Rise of Skywalker just kinda ridiculous at this point.