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Star Wars In-Production Films |OT| May the Spoilers Be With You
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So if Ahsoka is possibly in as a force ghost,
live action with make-up or CG character with the ghost effect covering for it?
live action with make-up or CG character with the ghost effect covering for it?
Could you freaking imagine if she showed up and there was a hint of her theme done by John Williams.
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I mean does it really need explanation?
It's not going to be a big important detail. how the spirts are doing stuff now can be explained by a character the general audience knows if it needs to be(Yoda, Obi-Wan, Luke).
Ahsoka would be just another spirit, not knowing her doesn't confuse the plot in someway.
Who Ahsoka is exactly would be even less important than Saw Gerrera in Rogue One.
Maul only confused people because the last time general audiences saw him he was cut in half falling down a hole.
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It sounds like only Jedi voices (including Ahsoka) are heard but FG are not seen. Makes sense to me for FG would distract from Rey and look like a cheap Endgame knock off. this way, they encourage Rey but the spotlight is on her.
I like the idea of the force ghosts coming to aid, but the execution is really tricky and has a high likelihood of seeming really corny. Maybe it's for the best that they make the change.
If Force ghosts make a physical presence, I would imagine they would want to stick exclusively with the Skywalkers: Anakin, Luke, Leia, and a possibly newly deceased Ben.
Or, save Leia for the very end on Tatooine so that she can be 'reunited' with the rest of her family, effectively giving her character that final emotional send-off.
Or, save Leia for the very end on Tatooine so that she can be 'reunited' with the rest of her family, effectively giving her character that final emotional send-off.
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Filoni is going to murder JJ if JJ sticks in a force ghost voice Ahsoka because he'd canonize Ahsoka being dead lol.
Star Wars walks the line on corny. So it could work but it is going to depend on Rey's arc in the film. If the Force Ghosts do any heavy lifting it would undercut her. But a moment where they encourage, and maybe defend, Rey at her absolute weakness would be the right kind of corny. And has said many times before, if they take on Palpatine in his Spirit form, that could make sense as Rey would have done all the major work, they are just there to handle cleanup.
Why the fuck would JJ give two shits about Ahsoka? Obviously she's not gonna be in this movie. Fake news
I don't see why it is so hard to believe. She is an iconic Jedi of the PT era. Would make sense.
Sounds like total fanboy wish fulfillment. No way she's in this movie in any capacity
I could see them do the voices thing if they really want to emphasize that Rey has all the Jedi in her corner. It could be similar to that force flash she had when she touched the lightsaber in TFA. She heard Obi-Wan's voice then. A similar thing could make sense if she is so in tuned with the Force during the fight with Sheev that all these Jedi start manifesting. It wouldn't even be confusing to people that don't know Ashoka because you could just take it as one of the many Jedi from history being conjured up. For fans in deep it's a fun wink but for everyone else it's showing how important this fight is and how powerful Rey is.
I still have trouble figuring out why we have the Dyad concept (more powerful together than they would be individually) if it's only going to be used to rejuvenate Palpatine so that FG have to recharge Rey. FG giving Rey their power undermines the Dyad lore. So that's a lot of contradiction either in leaks or the movie itself. personally, I'd rather them do something with the Dyad than rely on cheap fan service with FG that fans are gonna hate in hindsight anyway.
Trailer confirmed for October 21st?
No.
In the meantime, JP posted updated leak with reshoot changes and it sounds even worse than before:
In the meantime, JP posted updated leak with reshoot changes and it sounds even worse than before:
The folks have pretty much turned on JP.
The finale probably won't go well with some people...
Why. :(
What
So no ghosts just voices of dead Jedi in the end?
Uh, I read the PDF already, which is why I think some people aren't going to like the finale.
Ward has point blank said before that Palpatine claims he wants to pass his power to Rey to try and turn her but he always intended to use her.
That Palpatine does say in the film he wants to pass things on to her but it is a ruse. This is sort of the stuff where intent is hard to really get through in these summaries.
leaks are trash. Not as raw info but as an attempt to create full scenes and connections between them out of partial info. Plot is trash but that's nothing new for JJ. His strength is emotional resonance...which is completely absent from the leak.
it's all part of JJ's notoriously lax security. TLJ didn't leak this bad because no Bad Robot. Those guys can't keep their mouths shut.
I think he is attributing everything he got wrong and found out was different to "reshoots" lol
Yep. JJ edited TFA and TROS at Bad Robot. He insists on editing there rather than Skywalker ranch. He prefers to work in LA then going to Lucasfilm in the bay.
He also filmed reshoots for TFA and TROS at Bad Robot because he has a green screen sound stage connected to his editing bay so he can call up actors to film while he is editing instead of going off somewhere to do reshoots as most films do.
Well, I read JP's update. The story seems to flow a lot better and Rey seems to be front and center, which I like a lot. But it also seems pretty unimaginative. I just hope they pull off the emotional beats.
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It's just a bunch of the plot points being streamlined to make things seem less complicated and fetch questy, and the removal of a lot of the "weird" stuff. So instead of being given the Wayfinder by the Oracle, Kylo finds it in a chest. Instead of Kylo and Rey being a "Force Dyad", they're just really strong because of who their granddads are. Instead of Luke and Leia appearing at the end and helping Rey fight Sidious, Rey hears the voices of Force ghosts and gets motivated by them. Etc.
I will miss the giant babyhead Oracle, though I'm happy the plot no longer appears to be a chain of informants stringing set-pieces together
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If these reshoots are accurate though, I wonder how it will impact the book materials. I'm sure someone somewhere is working on a novel that deals with the Force Dyad concept or a comic that had the backstory of the Oracle and now *poof* it's all gone.
Also weird to throw in a Royal Guards fight so late in the process.
Also weird to throw in a Royal Guards fight so late in the process.
I'm not down with the removal of that stuff.
This new Disney SW just doesn't seem to be for me. *sigh* ahh well.
It did. And yet were still left with Ray being Senate's Granddaughter, and her taking the Skywalker name. God i hate that shit.
With the concept of the Dyad, you could have not needed to have Ray being related to The Senate at all