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Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order |OT| Respawn of the Jedi
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Yes, the clashing swords in Sekiro was the key, a parry had a different noise and look than a block and a parry followed by a counter by an enemy (or the last block before an enemy was going to counter you) also had a different one, that's 3 different feedbacks for you to understand how the duel agains your enemy was going. In Fallen Order there's really no feedback on all so it's kinda hard to know what is even happening in a duel.
Parry do have a different noise in Fallen order and the animation also is very clear when you get one in ? whats funny however is that sometimes, executions are done without slowmo
So I can indeed parry them right after they parry me? I'm just not executing right? That would be good to know
ok thanks, now that I know it works I'll try more consciously to do it.
Thank you. I always wonder what CA does and why devs put it in. I guess some folks really like it.
Sekiro circle jerk thread now? I love Sekiro but damn this is probably the best Star Wars game in the last 20 or so years, no need to belittle it all the time by comparing it with Sekiro.
Yes, it being a Star Wars game has a lot to do with my enjoyment, but thats why I bought it anyway.
Yes, it being a Star Wars game has a lot to do with my enjoyment, but thats why I bought it anyway.
Its not about Sekiro at all, its more about game design in general. Had a great time with this game
Whats funny is that, the gap between hard and grandmaster here reminded me a lot of the same gap in AC odyssey between hard and nightmare
Don't get bent out of shape. Sekiro was brought up to give context to specific complaints about combat in this game.
I like this game. I'm only criticizing it because I like it and I wish it was even better. If I didn't like it it wouldn't be worth complaining about in the first place for me.
I believe the praise the game is getting shows more how badly people want good Star Wars games which is understandable, the game is OK but not really amazing, it started out very strong but nearing the end myself and none of the elements in the game feels fleshed out but rather shallow.
Which planet? I am having an issue with this on
Ilum, it say's I am 4/5 but all of the sub regions have chest completion
I statyed out on Jedi Master and knocked it down to Jedi Knight. It's still quite challenging for me, but much less frustrating.
How are the masses feeling about this game? People expecting Uncharted meets Force Unleashed are in for a bad time
How are the masses feeling about this game? People expecting Uncharted meets Force Unleashed are in for a bad time
I don't know that it's even worth going for them, to be honest. When enemies can recover so quickly that you can't even get a hit in after a perfect parry, and you have six other guys tagging you while you're stuck in the parry animation, it doesn't feel like there's enough reward to warrant the risk.
The game's combat lifts so many mechanics and ideas from Souls and Sekiro that it's impossible not to make the comparison. The parry system, with both you and the enemy having block-stamina bars that you deplete to break guard, practically is Sekiro, just not executed as well. I'm not trying to shit on the game, I'm really enjoying it, but that's just how it is.
Just looking to see how far I am in the game.
I am on my second visit to Dothimir going into the temple now with the double jump.
I am on my second visit to Dothimir going into the temple now with the double jump.
Nobody should be expecting that at this point, to be fair.
I liked Sekiro but I find Souls games too hard, I know they're not hard and you just need to learn them but to be honest I don't really have the time for that nowadays. I'm not a fan of replaying one section over and over until I get it.
This is kinda the same but with lightsabers.
This is kinda the same but with lightsabers.
How do I get out of the cell? There's four loose plates and a power cable, can't find it.
This feels more like euro-jank to me personally. I would not be playing this were it not dressed in star wars nostalgia.
Fights with huge groups (like the one "at the top") in kashyyyk are just a mess.
Fights with huge groups (like the one "at the top") in kashyyyk are just a mess.
I'd say you are about 75% through the game
Thats what I did. Just beat it with doing the majority of side stuff. I had some issues with the combat. The game feels incomplete to me. Some things happen that seem like the end of a story line not the middle.
Its worth the 15 dollars to tear enemies up with a lightsaber though :)
This game really should have fast travel. Meditation circles should be fast travel points. They've added unnecessary tedium I presume simply because they want to artificially increase playtime.
EA: How much emotion do you want to put into the last hours of the game?
Respawn: Yes
Well the story is top tier, and the characters have depth to them. Cinematics are top great and while I'm not finished but near the end there is something so gut wrentching that it was not fun to see.
Respawn: Yes
Well the story is top tier, and the characters have depth to them. Cinematics are top great and while I'm not finished but near the end there is something so gut wrentching that it was not fun to see.
Pfff phenomenal game...just enjoy it for what it is...a great sp star wars experience. for 15 bucks you cant go wrong.
it is The Outer Worlds once again...people will cool off this game once they are done.
problem with Jedi is, even if i were a die hard Star Wars fan i would see the flaws...might be the best Star Wars game in a long time, this doesn´t mean that it is a good game overall, it is a serviceable game with technical and design flaws, highly derivative elements and dated feel.
Between The Outer Worlds, Death Stranding and this game here, it made a few review outlets look a bit strange for sure. i mean i don´t care for reviews at all but people should really not give so much attention to them.
on the Pro it is stuttering often in the 30fps mode, far from smooth
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I'm not far in the game yet, right after the prologue, green planet. But I notice framerate drops a bit more often than I'd like. They happen and once they're gone it's smooth again. I thought it was supposed to be smooth 30fps? On X.
The tongue hits the lightsaber, so the game counts that as contact. 🤷♂️ There are some tracking and hitbox issues in both games...so OK.
Anyone having issues where Cal just sometimes not grab on to ledges or ropes? I make the jump his face hits the ledge but he doesn't grab it and I just fall. Same with the freaking jobs, he goes through the ropes sometimes and it is annoying.
Loving the game! Much better than I expected but sure has some janky parts (mainly fps issues). Combat to me feels like a slower Sekiro and not as easy to cheese (Sekrios combat can be so broken as long as you keep attacking). I feel like this has a better mix of attack and defend but Sekiro was "tighter" to control. I like both though.
Pretty sure I just did the fight you are talking about and not sure what's so messy about it? The game has ranged opponents that actually do something and I could see that be a problem but you just gotta take it slow, use force on melee opponents and reflect ranged shots.
Lol now that I'm just destroying the universe in Jedi Master, its the damn puzzles that take much more time than the combat, its so silly. Kinda insane how vastly better the experience is purely in terms of combat in said difficulty, you just manhandle 6 - 10 enemies at any given time with how reasonable the force usage is
tuned at.
Took 3 hours to reach kashyyk part 2
Also, using enemies as human shields with pull when you see a trooper with a rocket launcher is hilarious and I feel bad for not thinking about it at all in my first playthrough.
tuned at.
Took 3 hours to reach kashyyk part 2
Also, using enemies as human shields with pull when you see a trooper with a rocket launcher is hilarious and I feel bad for not thinking about it at all in my first playthrough.
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The game has frequent stutters on all platforms, even on high end PCs.
Right, slow is the key. Any time I've been frustrated, it's because I've been too aggressive most of the time.
Anyone that shoots at you is a parry away from damaging or killing themselves. Enemies that lob things at you can get them pushed right back. Big fellas that are punishing from the front can be slowed for some free back attacks. Etc etc. Not liking something and criticism is fine, but the game isn't going to change, so it's adapt to it, or just play something else I guess?
I don't think I've ever felt so completely outmatched by a character. So powerful they don't even pretend you could stand a chance in a fight. I thought it made for a kinda underwhelming ending though, but not sure where they could keep going after that, because we obviously can't fight Vader and never will.
Just gave the intro a whirl. Seems like Dark Souls-lite combat, or I guess Batman, wrapped in Uncharted. Very pretty (even if the villain looks like a kid's toy), seems like a well presented romp, and I'm keen to sink my teeth into it once I'm done with Death Stranding.
Tried native 4K on a 1080 Ti. I get anywhere between 30 - 60fps depending on the scene, but averages 40 - 45. Normally I'd go for the hard 60+ at 1440p on my GSYNC monitor, but for the visual splendour I think I'll plug this into my LG C8 and run with native 4K at the cost of framerate. I'm really disappointed the PC build doesn't have HDR though.
Also not surprised there's stutters. Doesn't seem quite as bad as Arkham Knight, but it's a classic case of Unreal Engine related issues. The latter was UE3+, whereas this is UE4, so I know there's pipeline differences. But yeah; every so often there's an UE3/UE4 game that just seems to be pushing shit up hill under the hood, for whatever reason, and stutters along the way.
Tried native 4K on a 1080 Ti. I get anywhere between 30 - 60fps depending on the scene, but averages 40 - 45. Normally I'd go for the hard 60+ at 1440p on my GSYNC monitor, but for the visual splendour I think I'll plug this into my LG C8 and run with native 4K at the cost of framerate. I'm really disappointed the PC build doesn't have HDR though.
Also not surprised there's stutters. Doesn't seem quite as bad as Arkham Knight, but it's a classic case of Unreal Engine related issues. The latter was UE3+, whereas this is UE4, so I know there's pipeline differences. But yeah; every so often there's an UE3/UE4 game that just seems to be pushing shit up hill under the hood, for whatever reason, and stutters along the way.
i have next to no experience with combat in games like this and can use some tips for facing melee enemies, especially inquisitors where my strategy is literally run away to recharge force energy so i can do the dash attack that seems to always hit, rinse and repeat. everything else seems to be blocked, parries don't seem to give me an opening (unless i'm blowing it), and i seem to just mash otherwise which of course screws up opportunities to avoid damage by dodging at the right time. slow/push useful in any situation? dual saber vs single +/_? it feels like i'm not taking advantage of the tools available to me.
also, been using auto targeting, because i dont want to have to target and switch targets mid fight, but as the game is now throwing many enemies at once it seems to be getting in the way more than helping. should i turn it off and just learn to use it?
also, been using auto targeting, because i dont want to have to target and switch targets mid fight, but as the game is now throwing many enemies at once it seems to be getting in the way more than helping. should i turn it off and just learn to use it?
I would appreciate a difficulty between Master and GM; the gap is too big IMO.
its really the force usage in grandmaster that is completely whacked, its way too scarce imho. if you could use it more often, it would make the whole thing more fun
People still comparing this to sekiro or Bloodborne. Yes, it relies on breaking enemy postures but you have so many tools to do so. Parrying is just a part of the combat and not the most important one imo.
Instead of looking at what the game has to offer people try to imitate their sekiro or souls experience.
Ah, well. Meditation points and xp loose at death means it's 1:1 a from software combat system I guess.
Instead of looking at what the game has to offer people try to imitate their sekiro or souls experience.
Ah, well. Meditation points and xp loose at death means it's 1:1 a from software combat system I guess.
I think the animations and feedback aren't good enough to truly master parrying in the GM difficulty, but I only I spent a half an hour with it before moving on.
The thing is, as tight and well-made as Sekiro is, I hit a point where the game became more a job than an enjoyable experience and I eventually abandoned it.
Fallen Order not only offers difficulty options, it even goes as far as to explain how those options manifest within the game.
There's something to be said about giving the player a choice not to have to endure a million deaths and endless frustration to get through a game and Fallen Order is demonstrative of how you can cater to everyone while ensuring the hardcore 'Get Good' crowd still gets their fix.
I mean I did push people over edges with the force, slowed down packs, killed 3 guys at once with one saber throw etc. But all of this basically doesn't work against bosses, the game logic in GM isn't that great when it comes down to it. Unless it is for some and I just don't like how strict it is overall which sounds about right :P
I agree completely. This game borrows from the Souls games but it also borrows heavily from other action titles and the combat is most assuredly its own thing.
You know, there's a protracted difference between disliking a game and telling other people they aren't really enjoying it as much as they think or that they'll cool to it eventually.
You don't know me, the critics, or the myriad of people who are clearly enjoying this game even if you aren't so why not just stick to your own opinion and quit assuming you know others better than they know themselves.