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Star Wars |OT| New Canon, New Forum [NO IX SPOILERS]

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Oct 25, 2017
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About this Mark Hamill hullabaloo:

I have not visited the thread (as a matter of personal policy I do not willingly jump into volcanos), so I apologize if this has been brought up there. From the comments I've seen, Mark seems somewhat frustrated at being lead to believe that his role would be bigger in the movies. When George first contacted him about the sequel trilogy in the summer of 2012, he told Mark that his idea had Luke playing a prominent role in Episode VII. And judging from Mark's comments, the rough plan at the time was for Luke to continue to have a big role in VII and IX. But when Michael Arndt tried to take the outline he'd worked on with George And turn it into a script, he ran into problems. Luke took the focus away from Rey. And it almost didn't matter how much or how little Luke was in the movie, he still messed up what they wanted for Rey. So eventually, in December 2013, after Arndt had left the project, the story finally got nailed down. Luke would barely feature at all, just popping up in the final scene (and ever so briefly in a flashback). He wouldn't even have a line. But by this point, Mark had spent a year and a half assuming that he had a pivotal role in the film. I can imagine he was frustrated. Especially as the original star of the series. But Mark's a team player, and there were still two more movies where he could be prominently featured. Then Rian talks to him and reveals Luke's death in VIII. Now Mark is frustrated all over again. He's been reduced from a key role in three movies to a key role in one movie, and cameos in the other two. And that one movie where he gets a spotlight, it's in a much different form than what he's done before in the series. He won't be the calm, powerful, heroic teacher. No, he's the scared, weird recluse. And I didn't even mention all the crazy stuff George may have told him while making the original trilogy! Remember, while filming Return of the Jedi Lucas told Hamill about plans for a sequel trilogy that would start filming around 2011. For all we know, George promised him a big role back then. This had to be aggravating. So I get why he'd have complicated feelings about the films.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Speaking of big weapons,

I hope EP9 shows that the FO has a new objective.. not to wipe people out, but to convince or force people to join their cause. Maybe bases stationed on planets in most systems to spread propaganda and convert people into sympathizers or followers/soldiers of the FO. Maybe Kylo's plan is to dominate entire planets and spread influence.

This would make for some nice character growth from where we see him in TFA/TLJ, where he wants to just destroy any and everything that stands in the way. He will have learned from Snoke (manipulating people into getting what you want) but also abandoned the idea of superweapons as a means of control. Pick and choose from the lessons he's learned.

Of course, if refused, they can still murder anyone who chooses not to side with them, but I'd like to see more of a focus on control through numbers instead of simple destruction/fear/obliterating entire systems.

Maybe there's some sort of dark side influence that could play into it somehow.. corrupting the minds of people under their control.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I have zero interest in a discord sorry folks, ever since i said " i miss bobby" and manabyte invited me to one that imploded like a week later I've been of the opinion "no thanks" this thread is good enough.
 
Dec 11, 2017
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Hamill was pissed too when he read through Force Awakens and realized he wasn’t in it. He’s said that he had hoped that the amazing moment where Rey pulls the lightsaber out of the snow that it was him who pulled it and then saved the day.

Hamill is a great guy, but it’s clear he advocates for his own heroism over the larger story.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I have zero interest in a discord sorry folks, ever since i said " i miss bobby" and manabyte invited me to one that imploded like a week later I've been of the opinion "no thanks" this thread is good enough.
And that's fine, not everyone has to join especially if they don't have interest. I feel like just to have it for the people that want it is still good though.

The gaming side will do nothing but (very justifiably) bitch about what Battlefront II broke this time lol
You're probably not wrong, but there'll still be some people willing to just chat. Plus Fallen Order comes out later this year.
 
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