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Star Wars |OT| New Canon, New Forum [NO IX SPOILERS]
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I don't play it, but that doesn't stop me from buying the little plastic starships. $200 is too much even for me though.
Plus, it won't fit in my house.
Heh, an X-Wing-scale Death Star would probably be similar in size to the Epcot sphere.
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Come now, Nolan is not some exposition horse. He made The Prestige.
Think Nolan has gotten a bad rap because of Inception, which is weird since heist movies always involve exposition, it's like a defining feature of all heist films. The audience has to know the rules, the plan etc.
Plus his last movie was Dunkirk for chrissake. It was basically a silent picture
Yep, he also gets dragged for that one scene in Interstellar where Brandt talks about love. But, the whole point is that it's cringey and desperate because she just wants to see her husband.
I don't have an issue with that scene but I also don't think it's supposed to be cringey. It's supposed to not make sense logically and we're supposed to question what she's saying, especially since we know her to be very logical and calculating up until this point. She's also later proved right as we see from the tesseract scene.
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I was very interested in his "show don't tell" approach with Interstellar. "it's supposed to be cringy" is a real bad argument, lol
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Lackluster so far. The plot isn't very interesting and the main character is incredibly annoying. Due to the location, it doesn't really tie into the main saga much and everything is fairly low key. It's much more obviously oriented towards little kids than even Rebels was.
I think we're going to have to see what happens once they pass TFA in the timeline.
Incredibly dissapointing. Makes the wait for the new saga stuff even harder. At least we're getting Clone Wars back and The Mandalorian. But with the amount of SW stuff coming out the stuff I really enjoy is too sparse for my liking.
Maybe Ill check out the comics instead for the time being.
I think Resistance is very enjoyable. It's an explosion of color, very pleasant to look at, lots of interesting details in the backgrounds, aliens, droids, etc. to look at. Kaz the main character is very likeable and earnest.
It's more lighthearted fare for sure, but to me that is extremely welcome. It's right up my alley.
Also, keep in mind that unlike Rebels, Resistance is doing a 20+ episode 1st season, so yeah; story-wise, it's been a bit of a slow burn. Though, the next episode does appear to be getting back to the central plot:
And mark me down as someone who also enjoys the vibes and atmosphere this show gives off.
And mark me down as someone who also enjoys the vibes and atmosphere this show gives off.
As a show it's quite enjoyable. Some of the slapstick humour can be childish, and the main character is a large source of that humour. However, as the series goes on and he gradually moves on from his previously sheltered lifestyle (he grew up in luxury in the Core Worlds, and was a pilot with the New Republic, both thanks to his father - a Senator in the New Republic) to becoming more mature and more aware. He makes a bumbling mistake in The High Tower, but uses the knowledge gained their to protect some runaways in The Children of Tehar. There is some comedic misadventures in related to a substance called 'Hyperfuel' in Fuel For The Fire, but that feeds his (and our) knowledge of the substance in The Platform Classic. It's all tying together rather well.
As a for post-OT platform, this flesh out the world of the ST considerably. The First Order are treated with suspicion by most people, being seen mostly as some odd relic of a bygone war on the fringes of the galaxy, rather than some looming immediate threat. The Resistance isn't known to most people (the lead himself only knows of it because of his father being a Senator), and not well thought of by those who do. There are references abound, such as characters making references to the post-Empire military disarmament from the Aftermath trilogy, or meeting a winner of the Five Sabers race from Bloodlines. A Nemoidian pilots a ship type used by the Trade Federation, and the Guavian Death Gang from TFA make a brief appearance. Alien species from all trilogies show up in both background and supporting roles.
At least wait for more than one persons input before announcing yourself "incredibly [disappointed]". It looks like you were less in search of a consensus of opinion, and more after confirmation bias.
Im incredibly dissapointed that the show doesn't sound at all appealing to my tastes. I don't really see why that's a problem.
Resistance was already going to be an uphill battle to get me interested after seeing its visuals and its setting as I've personally never realled cared or been interested in the resistance as a concept. So hearing that its also more kid friendly than rebels, (which I didn't really like up until it got into darker themes and delved into the force) this show does not sound like its for me.
no idea how you arrived at that conclusion, I feel like Nolan cares very much about making cool-looking setpieces (it's literally one of his defining traits as a filmmaker!) just as the Russos care about character and theme, especially when it's so clearly reflected in their movies (Civil War isn't driven by character or theme?!). But I also remember you saying before about how you don't think Infinity War is even a real movie, so I doubt I'll be persuading you otherwise... :lol
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But you only had one persons input when you made that post. I was questioning why you'd come into this thread to canvas opinions, to only read input of one person before declaring yourself "incredibly disappointed", not but half an hour after your initial question.
I mean, the frustration and disappointment with Resistance is pretty widespread across online Star Wars communities and multiple people in this thread have criticized it within the last page. I'm not saying it's a consensus, but it's fair to use that as a grounds for not embracing 20 episodes of an animated show that doesn't sound appealing to you.
For my part, I'm willing to keep giving it a chance because the episodes are short and it seems like it might start picking up steam soon, but the tone is still too light and silly, far more than Rebels ever was, which raises doubts that the show will ever get much more mature.
For my part, I'm willing to keep giving it a chance because the episodes are short and it seems like it might start picking up steam soon, but the tone is still too light and silly, far more than Rebels ever was, which raises doubts that the show will ever get much more mature.
Because its the input of a long time SW poster that I happen to trust which also confirmed my suspicions going into the show in the first place?
Im not into even more kid friendly, forceless Star Wars and I wish something like Clone Wars or even late game Rebels was being offered consistently for older audiences and Im not getting that.
It also plays into a larger dissapointment that primarily revolves around a lot of the content thats been greenlit where the end result is, like I previously stated, me waiting a long time for something new that I enjoy.
Did somebody say kid-friendly?
edit: Gotta say, I'm impressed at how the Darth Vader short obscures the fine line between "he is FUCKING these soldiers up" and "oh he's just cutting their weapons and tossing them aside"
edit: Gotta say, I'm impressed at how the Darth Vader short obscures the fine line between "he is FUCKING these soldiers up" and "oh he's just cutting their weapons and tossing them aside"
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Thanks to that leaked picture of Luke's double for the "Forceback" in The Force Awakens posted on the last page, I've gone down a rabbit hole of stuff cut from the film. For instance, did you know that the "Forceback" once included Snoke and a young boy?
The boy lasted long enough to end up in the novelizations.
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Then there's the leaked scene breakdown from the beginning of the shoot. I believe this is from before Harrison Ford got injured. The overall movie is still the same, but there are a ton of differences. The "Forceback," for example, is very different and ties into a different opening shot that you may remember from leaks in the year before the movie's release:
And there's an entire bit in the last battle where Leia comes in with a giant ship to break open the shield around Starkiller Base, another thing that leaked out.
A note on these scene descriptions, if you follow that link above: they come from leaked documents where everything is referred to by codenames. Fans replaced the ones they knew with the actual names but left any unknown ones. Hence things like "Tunnel of Love" and "Main Street."
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The boy lasted long enough to end up in the novelizations.
Some notes from another editor:
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Then there's the leaked scene breakdown from the beginning of the shoot. I believe this is from before Harrison Ford got injured. The overall movie is still the same, but there are a ton of differences. The "Forceback," for example, is very different and ties into a different opening shot that you may remember from leaks in the year before the movie's release:
And there's an entire bit in the last battle where Leia comes in with a giant ship to break open the shield around Starkiller Base, another thing that leaked out.
A note on these scene descriptions, if you follow that link above: they come from leaked documents where everything is referred to by codenames. Fans replaced the ones they knew with the actual names but left any unknown ones. Hence things like "Tunnel of Love" and "Main Street."
Nolan's set pieces are typically "small" scale and character focused, but immensely creative. Examples: Hallway scene in Inception, Docking scene in Interstellar, Pit Crawl and Bane fight in TDKR. You can tell he doesn't care much for the big set pieces as his films often don't spend much time on them, they're just a consequence of plot. Civil War attempts to focus on the characters but abandons them in favor of set pieces. It cares more about seeing the Black Panther fight and then seeing all the heroes throw punches at each other at an airport than examining their characters. Remember, the movie starts with a debate about the responsibility of those with power to act. It ends with Iron-Man and Cap punching each other over his mom. And, of course, no one is actually hurt. Thus, much like TWS, it abandons the questions it asks in favor of pop-action.
Of course, IW is even worse as their is exactly zero character development or examination in the whole movie. Instead, we are treated to a celebratory wank as every gets their chance to punch the purple space man. Now, is that entertaining? Sure, but its also empty. Civil War is a faulty movie, but it at least attempts depth and character examination. Still, I've yet to watch a Russo movie that isn't mostly spectacle. And, that's why I don't want them touching Star Wars. Nolan knows how to balance spectacle with character and themes. And, his spectacle is often more creative using less.
On the bright side, we're probably getting that footage one way or another :eyes:
How about we just don't have either the Russo's or Nolan touch Star Wars.
Plenty of more fitting and interesting choices out there. Denis Villeneuve is a good one, Alex Garland, hell even Robert Eggers would all make better and more interesting Star Wars films than either of the two.
Plenty of more fitting and interesting choices out there. Denis Villeneuve is a good one, Alex Garland, hell even Robert Eggers would all make better and more interesting Star Wars films than either of the two.
Soooo
Is someone gonna make an anime opening out of these or what
A bunch of Star Wars fans were already losing their minds over the mildly auteuristic approach of RJ. Could you imagine what kind of implosion these guys could do?
I thought about mentioning it. But, honestly, sucks to be them. They'll either get over it or move on. I'd rather have amazing movies in the SW universe than more mediocre, incredibly safe stuff like TFA and Rogue One.
He's already expressed interest. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if he eventually directs one.. an obvious choice.
Out of the three I listed, he's arguably the most likely. Wouldnt be surprised if he's already talked/talking to Lucasfilm and or RJ.
I think he'll be scratching his sci-fi itch with Dune, which he wants to be "Star Wars for adults". I just can't see him wanting to do a family film and I think he'd be put off by the behind-the-scenes shenanigans with Rogue One and Solo.
You know it makes sense.
Edit: Oops, double post. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Alex Garland is actually more of a wildcard when it comes what kind of thing he might do with the property should he be given the chance.
On the one hand, he's written Sunshine, Never Let Me Go as well as directed Ex Machina and Annihilation.
On the other hand, this is the same dude who's written Dredd, Enslaved, and DmC: Devil May Cry.
On the one hand, he's written Sunshine, Never Let Me Go as well as directed Ex Machina and Annihilation.
On the other hand, this is the same dude who's written Dredd, Enslaved, and DmC: Devil May Cry.
PG-14 Star Wars saga trilogy about the unknown regions and dark side of the force with Eggers, Villeneuve and Garland all writting and directing a film.
Dream project right there.
Star Wars Dredd would be amazing
But lmao what to the last two. How is this real
Nick Nolte joins the Mandalorian.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...o-pascal-star-wars-series-mandalorian-1164696
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/h...o-pascal-star-wars-series-mandalorian-1164696
SW has sort of evolved out of being strictly "family entertainment". Sure, it's definitely that, but if you want to your focus can be on more profound and deeper components, as we saw with TLJ.
I have no doubt in my mind that the mere fact that EP8 was created piqued Villeneuve's creative interests.
I've been pitching that for a while
Put me in coach, I'm ready!
Though the chances of that happening is like a Star Wars fanfilm not filming in the woods with/without lightsabers
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