Nah, just a lot of people love looking for drama in Star Wars fandom.
Kathy has done an excellent job. I see zero reason to doubt her. She is tough as nails and will only greenlight a script if she really likes it.
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Nah, just a lot of people love looking for drama in Star Wars fandom.
Ah ok, that makes sense. In Kathy we trust!Nah, just a lot of peopl love looking for drama in Star Wars fandom.
Kathy has done an excellent job. I see zero reason to doubt her. She is tough as nails and will only greenlight a script if she really likes it.
Then why didn't they do this?This is just Disney staking their claim to important dates to them to scare other studios off. Fail to place a major IP in the coveted pre-Christmas slot and some other studio is going to swoop in with one of their own titles.
Also, given that they are being cautious after Solo, I have serious doubts that Disney is going to pre-commit to a trilogy of anything at this point. I have my doubts that either project (D&D or RJ) is being set up as a trilogy from the outset anymore. If the first one underperforms then you either have to go into full scale salvage and damage control mode (a la WB with Fantastic Beasts 3) which incurs a massive production delay and goodbye two year turnaround, or take the even more embarrassing hit by canceling an already announced sequel.
Instead I imagine each movie is being designed to stand alone just fine with potential hooks for sequels. So that a followup seems organic and earned.
Also, 2 year turn arounds are almost impossible for films of this scale. That only happens if you start scripting and pre-production on the sequel before the first film releases. I have serious doubts that Disney is willing to consider that anymore. So it makes more sense that the films are actually unrelated in terms of story
Again it must makes more sense that Disney is staking claim to those dates for SWs films. Whether they are connected remains to be seen.
I think "C" is out given Disney's pivot after the Solo bomba. They are not releasing a SW movie every year.
I think an option would be for RJ to have moved to the 3rd Disney+ series.
The decided not to announce two whole SW movies. We literally have no idea what they are because in their announcement, they didn't specify what they are. They just said one of them is D&D, not all of them.Then why didn't they do this?
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2021: Avatar 2
2022: STAR WARS
2023: Avatar 3
2024: STAR WARS
2025: Avatar 4
2026: STAR WARS
All of those are December dates.
Can you tell me what year they're going to release 2 Star Wars films in the same year? Maybe a Star Wars AND Avatar? And for the latter, it would mean releasing a Star Wars in December, then one in May or so and then Avatar in December. Do you think they're going to pull another Solo?
Based on that schedule, if there is another whole trilogy they didn't announce, then they fail to stake their claim to important dates.
Anyone who has posted in this thread before knows how much I love me some Rian Johnson but I cannot look at that schedule and realistically believe that there's a whole trilogy that Disney just decided to not announce. It doesn't work with the clear plan they've set up with Star Wars and Avatar. I hope his movies didn't get canned, I hope they say "FUCK IT!" and release his movies in December, and pull another Solo, but that just doesn't seem realistic. Not after they've changed their plans so much because of Solo.
That doesn't read to me like "We've got one series from D&D coming".Kennedy specifically said, "We're sitting down now, we're talking about the next 10 years of Star Wars stories, and we're looking at, narratively, where that might go. Future stories beyond Episode IX, with these new characters: Rey, Poe, Finn, BB-8."
That is a possibility but then it's weird that they would not announce a schedule until 2028 if that was the case. Whatever happens, it's clear plans changed a lot. We're either not getting RJ's trilogy or multiple D&D films and I think the former is more likely based on what we know right now.I do think D&D's movie is probably being retooled as a standalone filmsince they've demonstrated they are incapable of long-form storytellingsince Lucasfilm is hesitant about committing to a long-term series with new characters at the moment. So 2024 could be Rian's film, or hopefully sooner.
Can you tell me what year they're going to release 2 Star Wars films in the same year? Maybe a Star Wars AND Avatar? And for the latter, it would mean releasing a Star Wars in December, then one in May or so and then Avatar in December. Do you think they're going to pull another Solo?
It's weird either way. If they're just doing a trilogy, it's fucking weird to announce a single film and not go ahead and commit to officially confirming the other two.That is a possibility but then it's weird that they would not announce a schedule until 2028 if that was the case. Whatever happens, it's clear plans changed a lot. We're either not getting RJ's trilogy or multiple D&D films and I think the former is more likely based on what we know right now.
True, there were other factors to consider in their decision to pull back, but let's be honest.. if Solo would have been a success we wouldn't be looking at three years of no SW films.Even beyond Solo, I think the Trevorrow situation on Ep 9 put them in a panic. They had an already announced release date breathing down their neck and not even a script that they were happy with. If Abrams hadn't been willing to step in (and free to do so- it's a miracle that he wasn't already committed) then they could really have been in a tough position.
True, there were other factors to consider in their decision to pull back, but let's be honest.. if Solo would have been a success we wouldn't be looking at three years of no SW films.
Oh no doubt. I hope they at least use this time wisely and restructure in a way that prevents flubs like this (ie firings, cancellations, reshooting) from happening again. There have been issues with almost every single SW movie thus far. TLJ was the only film that went without issue, and EP7 went pretty well aside from JJ being crunched, but I'd guess that's pretty normal for films of this magnitude.No doubt about that- I just think the cracks were there earlier. Even before Solo released the behind the scenes challenges of Rogue One and Lord/Miller Solo should have been a strong hint to Lucasfilm that the MCU approach wasn't working. But when Rogue One overperformed it's easy to see why they stayed the course.
You are forgetting that movie schedules are set in mud. It was the same schedule that just revealed that Avatar 2 was pushed back another year. Who's to say that the Avatar movies are really going to hold to a two year gap? I know I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Cameron finds out that he needs a year or two break following Avatar 3. This way Disney owns the dates until they say otherwise. That's why movie delays are often announced with an immediate substitution- the competition can't move first.
And there is nothing saying that a Star Wars movie can't release in July, November, April, etc. I do think the 3 year hiatus is real but after that? All bets are off. That's an eternity in the business. Hell Iger won't even be in charge at Disney when the next SW movie comes out. There is nothing saying that they won't slot another movie on the schedule if they believe in it.
What they aren't going to do is pre-plan an entire slate of mainline,spinoffs, etc when they don't even have scripts, actors, etc. Despite many others trying, so far only the MCU has succeeded at that approach. You cannot hold a schedule that extends to the year 2026 as Gospel. Even Marvel has had major delays in their schedule, unplanned additions, and one outright cancellation.
Wash your mouth out with soap heathen.
Ehh. I don't want to get too serious among friends but I have an acquaintance who works in a particular position in Lucasfilm (yes, I realize this always sounds like a "My uncle at Nintendo" line) and she's bucked heads with him on more than one occasion. It's secondhand knowledge, I know, but I don't have the highest impression of him. Maybe she's antagonized him far more than she claims, I guess.
Exactly.
Not Star Wars but the latest Patreon exclusive pod for Making Star Wars Jason Ward says he hears Lucasfilm Animation is working on a Indiana Jones animated show for Disney+
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It does seem that way unless he's doing a TV series???
I went over this yesterday and posted the schedule that we have now, which points towards there no longer being an RJ trilogy. It would not surprise me if RJ is now on the D&D films be it as a co-writer or just director.
I blame GoT for this table flipping frenzy people have whipped themselves into
There's no table flipping or frenzy here...I blame GoT for this table flipping frenzy people have whipped themselves into