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Star Wars |OT2| This is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them! [OPEN TROS SPOILERS | TAG MANDO SPOILERS]
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Does it really matter? The Sith order has always felt like an afterthought in Star wars, it was never brought up in the OT and the PT never did anything interesting with it.
But the Yoda quote posted by Surfinn was specifically about the Sith. I'm just saying that with what we know right now Snoke can't be Palpatine's new apprentice.
Seeing the Bendemption discussion has made me think if this tweet I saw yesterday:
Ben was always getting redeemed. We've been told this since TFA, and all of the recent EU material is pointing to it as well.
They're not going to end the Skywalker Saga by saying, "and the last Skywalker died as an evil punk bitch."
Ben was always getting redeemed. We've been told this since TFA, and all of the recent EU material is pointing to it as well.
They're not going to end the Skywalker Saga by saying, "and the last Skywalker died as an evil punk bitch."
yeah him stuggling with the light is a defining characteristic.
And I am sure Adam Driver can pull of great performance if they redeem him.
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If I was Leia I'd argue that tweet took my opinion out of context haha.
Yeah, that's what I want see - Driver wrestling with it. Man, that's gonna be so good.
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Snoke literally describes himself as a master. There is no chance of him being Palp's apprentice or subordinate.
i misread your previous post. You were saying that there was a rivalry between Snoke and Palpatine. I don't know about that. Would Palpatine have allowed Snoke to live if he knew of his existence?
If you want to know Snoke's backstory then it's no good but if you wanna see Snoke and Kylo interecting? Yeah, it's pretty great.
We get to see more of their abusive relationship that we saw in TLJ.
I would think that if Sheev knew of Snoke, he would have sent Vader to eliminate him or do it himself.
Since this is the end of THE SKYWALKERSSS...do you think we'll ever get Snoke's origin story?
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The abusive nature of their relationship as shown in TLJ doesn't make sense to me. In TFA Snoke seemed to be a pretty chill dude so it made sense he'd be able to turn Kylo and act as a substitute parent figure but now it's kind of weird that Kylo stuck with Snoke for as long as he did.
In TFA he essentially asks if he's strong enough to murder his dad. Dark Side users aren't really into the whole chill thing.
Chill in the sense that he seemed to take all the setbacks in stride. Hux and Kylo didn't manage to get the map? No matter. The resistance manages to destroy starkiller base? Well, they already got the Republic so no matter. In TLJ he's yelling and punishing his subordinates which does't seem to jive with how he was depicted in TFA. And if he was so abusive towards Kylo from the start then it's weird that Kylo took it for so long or why he even decided to go to Snoke to begin with.
All of these quotes were made prior to the moment in TLJ where he takes over the First Order and rejects Rey's offer of redemption. This scene was clearly framed as Kylo's "making his choice" moment.
That doesn't mean they can't walk it back later (see also: Zuko in the Crossroads of Destiny), but this tweet is deliberately ignoring this major fact.
After this happens Luke still tells Leia that noone's ever really gone in reply to Leia saying that she knows her son is gone.
yeah, the bigger evidence is luke's last line to his sister being "no one is ever really gone" right after that.If I was Leia I'd argue that tweet took my opinion out of context haha.
still think that would be dumb if that ends up happening but adam driver has the chops to pull it off if they do.
We really see much of him in TFA either, though. Not enough to really say what kind of personality he had.
Snoke and Hux were both characters that JJ wasn't too interested in really defining what made them them in TFA. Snoke isn't the same in TLJ, that's true, but I think it's for the better since in TLJ he has clear character traits. In TLJ he was more than just a Palpatine clone.
It was a thoughtful thing to show Leia in a dire moment which also worked as a means for both of them to remember Han together, something that they weren't able to do after he died.
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I thought Kylo mentioning Snoke sensed his "call to the light" in TFA indicated he feared the consequences of it. The abusive relationship we see in TLJ never felt inconsistent to me.
That and the fact that Kylo had not yet failed Snoke.
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That we know of. I heard he came back with the wrong takeaway before TFA and Snoke was furious.
I'm saying they're could have been one. It makes no sense for two masters lusting for ultimate power to coexist. Unless they're playing a game.
I watched a playthrough of that when it first came out. I thought it was fucking embarrassing.
I'll see how it reviews. If it turns out it's not very good I can wait until it goes down in price.
Didn't they later also add an additional story campaign taking place shortly before TFA? In any case, I'll soon find out how good or bad it is.
There's also the whole "The scavenger... resisted YOU?!?" outburst that folks have seemed to have glazed over
I came across some interesting circa 2015 quotes from Kathleen Kennedy and Lawrence Kasdan today. First up, Kathleen Kennedy from an interview with Slashfilm:
And Lawrence Kasdan from an interview with the LA Times:
And Lawrence Kasdan from an interview with the LA Times:
For anyone here who's read that Rey comic preview. Do you think it suggests in any way that Leia knows who Rey is?
What's funny is anytime I think of Snoke, it's this line - and Serkis' line read - that pops into my head
I just went down the rabbit hole of the Girls with Sabers Reylo videos on YouTube. The analysis of the Rey/Ben force bond scenes has me 😂
Every SW movie on plus + resistance, clone wars, rebels...
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Deleted scenes are also included in the extras.
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Deleted scenes are also included in the extras.
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