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The most prolific posters of OT2:
Einchy:1,741- Surfinn: 1,572
- Lifejumper: 1,249
- JB1981: 1,021
- Cross-Section: 948
- Drewton: 873
- BDS: 738
- DiipuSurotu: 733
- janusff: 587
- PopQuiz: 550
Damn. I need to step up my game.
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The most prolific posters of OT2:
Einchy:1,741- Surfinn: 1,572
- Lifejumper: 1,249
- JB1981: 1,021
- Cross-Section: 948
- Drewton: 873
- BDS: 738
- DiipuSurotu: 733
- janusff: 587
- PopQuiz: 550
Put it this way, if Rey was always supposed to be a Palpatine, why would Daisy say in interviews that she thought the answer was given in TFA?
I'm certain she was meant to be Luke's daughter, since the entirety of The Force Awakens implies a special bond between her and Luke, but you can't use that any more once Ben tells her that her parents were nobodies. Luke dying doesn't exactly help, either, and it's not like the two actually got on at all in The Last Jedi.
So plans would have had to change - and you can't really blame Abrams for not liking Johnson's ideas and ignoring them when Johnson didn't like Abram's ideas and ignored them.
Put it this way, if Rey was always supposed to be a Palpatine, why would Daisy say in interviews that she thought the answer was given in TFA?
3 oscar nominations for The Rise of Skywalker. Pretty impressive given that Endgame only got 1 nomination.
I'm certain she was meant to be Luke's daughter, since the entirety of The Force Awakens implies a special bond between her and Luke, but you can't use that any more once Ben tells her that her parents were nobodies. Luke dying doesn't exactly help, either, and it's not like the two actually got on at all in The Last Jedi.
So plans would have had to change - and you can't really blame Abrams for not liking Johnson's ideas and ignoring them when Johnson didn't like Abram's ideas and ignored them.
Put it this way, if Rey was always supposed to be a Palpatine, why would Daisy say in interviews that she thought the answer was given in TFA?
Seems super unlikely to me anyone auditioning for the role would've been told anything like that.She says she thinks she knew who Rey was related to. Wonder if it really was Palpatine all along
And if JJ had said to Rian, "Rey is a Skywalker/Solo/Kenobi/Palpatine, make sure to carry that through" or if TFA had committed to Rey being the child of someone important, that'd be one thing. But far as anyone knows, the former didn't happen and TFA left the matter completely open-ended. Answering a question where the questioner made no intent behind it clear is quite a different thing from answering a question and then saying later "Actually that answer was wrong, the truth is completely different."So plans would have had to change - and you can't really blame Abrams for not liking Johnson's ideas and ignoring them when Johnson didn't like Abram's ideas and ignored them.
I mean, isn't that exactly what "in their minds it's not answered at all" is implying though? She thought it was answered, most people didn't. Meaning from Daisy's perspective the movie did provide an answer. Of course it's also possible that it was clearer when they were in the middle of production, either from scenes that were shot but dropped/reworked or just from the direction JJ was giving her on set, that didn't then come through in the final cut.It's because people blew Daisy's comments out of proportion.
I thought a lot was answered in 'The Force Awakens'. Then after the screening I went for a drink with my agent and everyone, and we were chatting away and I realized that oh, in their minds it's not answered at all!
https://www.slashfilm.com/reys-parents-the-force-awakens/
Nothing about "the answer being given in TFA." Simply lots of teasing shown in TFA and some of Rey's backstory was glimpsed, but nothing anything concrete was given.
I don't like that people can't complement TROS without some backhanded comment, but I'll eventually get over the salt.
Anyways...
Saw it a sixth time in the theaters yesterday. It's a movie I enjoy more and more upon rewatches. Always catching something new from it.
Which is nice as I soured on TPM and AOTC as time went on. TFA I freaking loved on opening night and still do just slightly less so. TLJ I was mixed on but over time and rewatches just settled into that it was just really average with some wooden dialogue. I think ANH, RotS, and TROS are the only movies where I appreciate them more either over time or upon rewatches.
And if JJ had said to Rian, "Rey is a Skywalker/Solo/Kenobi/Palpatine, make sure to carry that through" or if TFA had committed to Rey being the child of someone important, that'd be one thing. But far as anyone knows, the former didn't happen and TFA left the matter completely open-ended. Answering a question where the questioner made no intent behind it clear is quite a different thing from answering a question and then saying later "Actually that answer was wrong, the truth is completely different."
Three Oscar nominations for The Rise of Skywalker. JJ keeps winning. :)
Wow. Most impressive. My record was seeing TPM four times. I think I saw TFA and TLJ three times each. I think I'm good with TRoS at two until it's out on disc.
So that's five for The Force Awakens, four for The Last Jedi and three for The Rise of Skywalker? Not bad really. I think The Force Awakens is the only one to win any, though.
So clearly the information is there, in The Force Awakens, and we're meant to rewatch that movie with the knowledge of who her parents are and say "oh yeah the movie teased that all along". Which implies to me the matter wasn't open-ended at all, but Abrams just didn't provide a concrete answer because that's a big moment for another movie.
lol. Dare to dream that a Star Wars plotline could be more than just a continued fixation on a character's parents.Or would you have preferred Abrams did as Johnson did and simply left the next movie with no plotlines to go with?
I've also generally enjoyed the Disney era, particularly compared to prequel era Lucas -- and not so much because of those movies themselves, I just had no interest in any of the Clone Wars/prequels setting, aesthetics, etc. and was really bored of droids vs. clone troopers quickly. If I have one big complaint about Disney's management of the franchise compared to late 90s/00s Lucas, it's that the video games have taken a huge step back. There are so fewer of them now, and as much as AAA dev times and costs are a big factor in that it's also clear that Lucasfilm has been extremely difficult to work with on this. The loss of Lucasarts really sucked for SW games.I've lurked many of the Star Wars threads on Resetera but this finally seemed like the safest thread to share my opinion. I'm 27, grew up on the original trilogy, saw the prequels as they came out and now have been actively following the Disney era.
Honestly my favorite Star Wars content has been under Disney. The Force Awakens is my favorite film, I love the other two sequels, The Mandalorian, Jedi Fallen Order, the Battlefront 2 campaign and the spin off films. I have yet to dive into rebels. I never cared for episode 1 or 2 growing up, I did enjoy 3 but honestly I was more of a casual fan until the Disney era. They have really solidified my interest in the franchise and deep lore.
In short, i agree with most criticisms (TFA = ANH, TLJ having pointless parts, TRoS being fast paced and a bit retconny) but I still love this era and really appreciate Disney creating content that's made me more of a "hardcore" Star Wars fan.
I like it more and more every time I watch it.
And I just love those final 40 minutes. It's so good.
I can def see Williams winning for it being his last Star Wars score. And even though he's won Oscars before, I could see this being the kind of thing where the Academy gives an award for one movie that's really meant to double as a lifetime achievement Oscar.Yeah, I think TFA was the only one to win an award from the Academy, but I think TROS has a realistic chance at two of those awards this year.
I've lurked many of the Star Wars threads on Resetera but this finally seemed like the safest thread to share my opinion. I'm 27, grew up on the original trilogy, saw the prequels as they came out and now have been actively following the Disney era.
Honestly my favorite Star Wars content has been under Disney. The Force Awakens is my favorite film, I love the other two sequels, The Mandalorian, Jedi Fallen Order, the Battlefront 2 campaign and the spin off films. I have yet to dive into rebels. I never cared for episode 1 or 2 growing up, I did enjoy 3 but honestly I was more of a casual fan until the Disney era. They have really solidified my interest in the franchise and deep lore.
In short, i agree with most criticisms (TFA = ANH, TLJ having pointless parts, TRoS being fast paced and a bit retconny) but I still love this era and really appreciate Disney creating content that's made me more of a "hardcore" Star Wars fan.
I was still a teen by the time ROTS came out but I saw that twice. TFA I think I saw four times. RO three times. TLJ twice. Solo once. And this...well yeah. ^_^'
So yeah, I guess it's my most watched SW film in theaters.
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/rian-johnson-star-wars-knives-out-sequel-1203464981/Johnson also confirmed he may still have another gig in a galaxy far, far away. When asked if he was still in active development on any future "Star Wars" projects, he responded: "I'm still talking to Lucasfilm but they haven't announced anything on their slate yet."
Rian still playing coy about the future.
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/rian-johnson-star-wars-knives-out-sequel-1203464981/
Damn. We know Saoirse Ronan was in the running for Rey too.
Jesus 6 times.
I will never watch TROS again and im happy about that.
So I can still have hope? I want to be free of this suffering.Rian still playing coy about the future.
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/rian-johnson-star-wars-knives-out-sequel-1203464981/
Cool
I'm okay with him going off and doing his own thing.
Have a Star Wars future free of any baggage of previous films. Bring in more women directors.
Would love to see a Patty Jenkins or Deborah Chow lead movie!!
Patty Jenkins needs to do Superman next. She's perfect for it.
I want him to do another one. There's going to be baggage no matter what. Yeah, some people will "boycott" it but I think he deserves another one. I think he's the only writer/director I'd want to see get another one though.
I would also love to see some new voices as well. I'm be all for a Patty Jenkins Star War. Let's get some new perspectives and ideas.
But if you have a Rian or JJ come back, you're going to have some segment of fans that would be upset and not go see the movie. That's not something I think Lucasfilm would be thrilled with. And plus the rest of us have to deal with that being the discussion and it turning toxic again.
I am the complete opposite. When I rewatch Star Wars movies it's either I liked them at 1st viewing and find issues but still liked them and may like them more, or a movie that isn't so good on 1st viewing would get worse on rewatch since the flaws stick out more but there would be enough good to prevent it from being the worst. It's why I fear rewatching TROS this year, because I was already critical on the movie and I might be more so on the rewatch. Last month I was really critical on TPM and AOTC when I rewatched the 8 main Star Wars movies before TROS.It's actually a somewhat common occurrence for me to like Star Wars movies more with each rewatch! Rogue One sprang up from like a 7 to a 9 over time, for example. I think TROS has gone from a similar 7 to about an 8.
Same thing he's been saying for months.Rian still playing coy about the future.
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/rian-johnson-star-wars-knives-out-sequel-1203464981/