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Starfield gameplay revealed
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Honestly i'm one of those "Less is better" people. I get that some people want a lot of stuff to do, but i'm more into "Small but cohesive world". Things like Gothic 1/2.
But this is Bethesda and i think they never failed to build a interesting World. Their world building is unique and i'm pretty hyped. Gunplay looks bad though. But honestly, couldn't care less about Gunplay in an Bethesda game.
But this is Bethesda and i think they never failed to build a interesting World. Their world building is unique and i'm pretty hyped. Gunplay looks bad though. But honestly, couldn't care less about Gunplay in an Bethesda game.
So, how long before the "Open Cities" Skyrim mod team releases the "Open Planets" mod for Starfield with seamless space to planet transitions? 😂
I am only slightly kidding, we all know it will happen eventually (if it isn't in the game natively).
I am only slightly kidding, we all know it will happen eventually (if it isn't in the game natively).
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Considering you can beat Skyrim and Fallout without setting foot in most of the map, I highly doubt it. My guess is the game's various quests will take you to hand-crafted areas, while you can go off the beaten path and No Man's Sky it up on uncharted planets to find resources, build outposts and find the occasional easter egg or hidden secret.
Wouldn't surprise me if we find a planet called Nirn hidden somewhere. Maybe a Fallout-inspired world as well.
So much depth to the character creator. I'm loving the backstory options and Daggerfall-style traits. They also hint at quite a lot of extra details too, like religion: a couple of competing factions called the Enlightened and the Sanctum Universum, as well as a Great Serpent god, and you can build them into your character backstory with relevant traits.
There's also a trait called Spaced: "Your body has become acclimated to space. Health and endurance are increased when in space, but decreased when on the surface." Which likely suggests there's a lot of content to engage with in space, not just on the 1,000+ planets. So, space stations and asteroid mining outposts etc? I imagine you wouldn't want to make that trait an option unless there was a significant amount of space content to make that viable.
And a bunch of interesting flavour traits too, like starting with a house on a peaceful little moon, but it comes with a mortgage. Or "your parents are alive and well, and you can visit them at their home. But 10% of all the money you earn is deducted automatically and sent to them." lol
There's also a trait called Spaced: "Your body has become acclimated to space. Health and endurance are increased when in space, but decreased when on the surface." Which likely suggests there's a lot of content to engage with in space, not just on the 1,000+ planets. So, space stations and asteroid mining outposts etc? I imagine you wouldn't want to make that trait an option unless there was a significant amount of space content to make that viable.
And a bunch of interesting flavour traits too, like starting with a house on a peaceful little moon, but it comes with a mortgage. Or "your parents are alive and well, and you can visit them at their home. But 10% of all the money you earn is deducted automatically and sent to them." lol
Do we know if seamless travel from space to planet surfaces and back is in or will we get a short cutscene of the ship landing and taking off instead?
I'm guessing it'll be seamless but I don't think the conference confirmed anything.
I'm guessing it'll be seamless but I don't think the conference confirmed anything.
It's not like I had any high hopes from Starfield but........oof! Games and character models shouldn't look like that in 2022. Period.
The words "procedurally-generated" and "rogue-likes" always rub me the wrong way. Expectations just dropped beneath the floor smh.
The words "procedurally-generated" and "rogue-likes" always rub me the wrong way. Expectations just dropped beneath the floor smh.
I know Era is always very down on Bethesda RPG's and I get why, but it doesn't bother as much.
Having seen the footage I think it looks good but it's STILL the same engine? C'mon guys...
It was barely holding together in Fallout 4, COMPLETELY fell apart in Fallout 76.
It also looks rather erm...dry?
Having seen the footage I think it looks good but it's STILL the same engine? C'mon guys...
It was barely holding together in Fallout 4, COMPLETELY fell apart in Fallout 76.
It also looks rather erm...dry?
They only showed cutscenes, and made no mention of anything being seamless.
I would not expect seamless unless proven otherwise. Bethesda isn't really known for holding back on these kind of showcases.
I know they didn't show it (I was really hoping they would) but I don't think they've specifically said it isn't in the game yet, right? It could still be WIP and simply wouldn't have been in a state to be shown yet. I'd be very surprised if they're not aiming to include that given the rest of the game's scope and ambitions.
Did they actually say there are zero focused planets and only procedurally generated or is that just an assumption from people because they didn't state either way and just filling in the gaps?
Damn, I was ready to give them the benefit of the doubt...
Not sure what it is specifically but seamless planetary transition in games is something that puts a smile on my face.
NMS really ruined me in that regard.
It does feel like after getting acquired, it's harder to criticize Bethesda games(in this example, at least) without some people being so defensive and dismissing said criticisms. Console wars kinda ruined how we talk about games, it seems like.
This is a great post.
I put hundreds of hours into Elite and as it happens, recently started by NMS playthrough.
The comparisons to NMS are reductive, but not ridiculous; of course there are some superficial similarities there. However we don't know enough whether those mechanics are optional, required, 50% of gameplay, 10%, 90%, etc.
Basically that was my takeaway from the reveal to be honest. I still don't have much of an idea of what this game is. I don't think we will, unless we get some longer previews - though I also don't rule out a launch without any previews at all.
This leak from last year seems pretty accurate now
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People also forget that a lot of people will be commenting from a PC perspective, where which consoles a game releases on is completely irrelevant to the points being made.
I was super into the idea of Starfield, I still am about a lot of it, but I saw that. I think I extracted resources from about 3 rocks in NMS before I bailed, too.
also, no voiced character, already a major improvement lol
+ skills
+ backgrounds
+ traits
+ joinable factions
we are getting a RPG closer to oblivion and fallout 3 than skyrim and fallout 4. that's good.
Cyberneticist description implies we will be able to get stuff like implants
man i want to see the stuff like Beast Hunter, Bounty Hunter, Cyber Runner, Long Hauler (trading stuff with your ships?) etc
+ skills
+ backgrounds
+ traits
+ joinable factions
we are getting a RPG closer to oblivion and fallout 3 than skyrim and fallout 4. that's good.
Cyberneticist description implies we will be able to get stuff like implants
man i want to see the stuff like Beast Hunter, Bounty Hunter, Cyber Runner, Long Hauler (trading stuff with your ships?) etc
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Of course, there are also console warriors on the other side of that argument, who are criticizing the game simply because of the fact that they were acquired, but those are happening on Twitter and elsewhere. Yet the defensiveness is also happening here, which I feel is unwarranted. It's like, "take the fight somewhere else, jeez" lol. As you said, people here seem to be more PC-centric. Especially based on how many people were happy when a PS port for Sony games get announced.
also, no voiced character, already a major improvement lol
+ skills
+ background
+ traits
+ joinable factions
we are getting a RPG closer to oblivion and fallout 3 than skyrim and fallout 4. that's good.
Cyberneticist description implies we will be able to get stuff like implants
man i want to see the stuff like Beast Hunter, Bounty Hunter, Cyber Runner, Long Hauler (trading stuff with your ships?) etc
Some of the traits are very interesting and they look like the offer unique dialogue or story situations. I wish they showed the dialogue system tho, maybe tomorrow at the extended showcase they'll talk about it a bit more
This looks mostly promising. I rolled my eyes at the lock-pick mini-game, and the frame-rate is a little concerning. I'll lower settings for 60 fps, unless it's all like the walkways above Corvega Assembly Plant in Fallout 4 and massively CPU limited. But there's still something special about big Bethesda RPGs, despite all the flaws and the jank.
That's more or less is my main hope with this, if it's just fallout in space with an older RPG focus I'm so happy.
It does seem too look like that as well, they carried over alot of stuff from fallout 4(hell one of those early weapons is straight up just the institute rifle from fallout 4)
Along with those other carry overs they then just added the ship combat, building and planets,
Does it look amazing no, but with these games actually playing them and how that all connects is what I love Vs the individual systems, I have no hope at all that the space combat will anything more than mediocre.
I still kinda hope their is some from of VATS though or even just the outer world's slow down system.
All I see is incremental damage efficiency stuff which has always been their crutch and is one of the reasons their skill systems always end up falling flat on their faces, with giving the illusion of choice but never actually delivering on actual different playstyles or fun synergies with other systems of the game.also, no voiced character, already a major improvement lol
+ skills
+ backgrounds
+ traits
+ joinable factions
we are getting a RPG closer to oblivion and fallout 3 than skyrim and fallout 4. that's good.
Cyberneticist description implies we will be able to get stuff like implants
man i want to see the stuff like Beast Hunter, Bounty Hunter, Cyber Runner, Long Hauler (trading stuff with your ships?) etc
The 'passive' stuff looks more fleshed-out than in some of their previous games which can be seem as encouraging, but their quest design philosophy of 'whataver the choice is, kill everything' needs a major overhaul to make it shine, looking at Skyrim and F4 I'm not extremely confident on that front.
But I'll be more than happy to be proven wrong when the game releases.
We also have 5 trees of skills:
Same. Want to see a VATS-like system and the dialogue but given how we have a social skill + traits + backgrounds already influencing dialogue/npc interaction I'm quite confident it's gonna be much better than skyrim or fallout 4's
Same. Want to see a VATS-like system and the dialogue but given how we have a social skill + traits + backgrounds already influencing dialogue/npc interaction I'm quite confident it's gonna be much better than skyrim or fallout 4's
Coming off of star citizen, I was kinda hoping for a star citizen-like/lite that's complete with a fleshed out quest and story. But this is what I expected too. With the reveal, I'm just left with being mostly interested in the story. Gunplay didn't look too hot. Modular ship is exciting, but if it doesn't have seamless flight, it just kinda reminds me of kingdom hearts gummi ships to select destinations. Still very interested, but expectations have been whelmed.
Yep the far harbour dlc and the positive reaction too that I hope that's something they paid attention too and continue from, and if this starts with a more in depth system already yes please...
Donst seem to be any alien intelligence so far anyone catch anything that hints at that, wonder if they are gonna do something like the dwemmer in Skyrim etc, and maybe they pop up late game/dlc.
I eventually watched the demo all the way through rather than skimming it, and I actually thought the game looked awesome. Reading a lot of the comments here just seem to reflect the common criticisms most Bethesda games get (jankiness, weak combat), which I feel are missing the woods for the trees a lot of the time.
My biggest question going before this demo was how big the game is, so its cool to get a firm answer on that.
My biggest question going before this demo was how big the game is, so its cool to get a firm answer on that.
It looked ok but I was really hoping for more. It does come off very NMS like though. That said we didn't see much in they way of quests or dialogue option. The gun play didn't stand out to me very much and the character models look old gen.
I really did like the ship customisation, I hope they don't lock the really cool stuff for this behind micro transactions. Areas seem really bland, and hearing that there is over 1000 planets doesn't really help either. I would of preferred 10 - 20 large highly detailed areas. I hope it's not going to be let's visit the brown planet, then the red one and now an ice planet. Each with a wasteland of nothing except a random bit of scrap to only craft a bobble head to sit on the dash board of your ship.
Fingers crossed it improves by the time it launches
I really did like the ship customisation, I hope they don't lock the really cool stuff for this behind micro transactions. Areas seem really bland, and hearing that there is over 1000 planets doesn't really help either. I would of preferred 10 - 20 large highly detailed areas. I hope it's not going to be let's visit the brown planet, then the red one and now an ice planet. Each with a wasteland of nothing except a random bit of scrap to only craft a bobble head to sit on the dash board of your ship.
Fingers crossed it improves by the time it launches
Looks so good. I can't wait to lose several hundred hours of my life to this. People rag on Bethesda because of the jank but they do this kind of game better than anyone else, if it was easy we'd have seen scores of copycats after Skyrim.
I just hope the Skyrim modding scene isn't too greatly diminished by the allure of the new. Still hoping that at least some of Beyond Skyrim releases before TES VI.
I just hope the Skyrim modding scene isn't too greatly diminished by the allure of the new. Still hoping that at least some of Beyond Skyrim releases before TES VI.
I really want to remain optimistic, however hearing that there are more than 1000 planets in this game...
and then SEEING only THREE handcrafted cities/towns repeated many times in the montages, and those 3 cities/towns being the same they have already revealed in the short developer commentary videos (New Atlantis, Akila and Neon) makes me worry that there will be less than 10 fully handcrafted cities/towns to explore.
You could argue that they don't want to spoil the other cities/town, but if you have carefully build more than 10
cities/towns out of 1000, why would you then only show 3.
To me 3 is a very low number in this context.
Of course I could be completely wrong, and I really hope I am.
Edit : To end on a more positive note :
This frame alone is enough to get me hooked, because it contains all the sense of alien mystery and wonder, that I want from a game like this :)
and then SEEING only THREE handcrafted cities/towns repeated many times in the montages, and those 3 cities/towns being the same they have already revealed in the short developer commentary videos (New Atlantis, Akila and Neon) makes me worry that there will be less than 10 fully handcrafted cities/towns to explore.
You could argue that they don't want to spoil the other cities/town, but if you have carefully build more than 10
cities/towns out of 1000, why would you then only show 3.
To me 3 is a very low number in this context.
Of course I could be completely wrong, and I really hope I am.
Edit : To end on a more positive note :
This frame alone is enough to get me hooked, because it contains all the sense of alien mystery and wonder, that I want from a game like this :)
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Based on the way it looked in the footage, I'm not even sure this thing is coming out next year. I thought it looked extremely rough, and not just the framerate, but the gameplay (combat in particular) as well. I also simply can't believe they are still using this duct taped together wreck of engine in 2022.
In the end I'm always a sucker of the Bethesda's jank open world games, so no doubt I'll be playing this day one on Gamepass PC. But what was shown didn't inspire a lot of confidence in me.
In the end I'm always a sucker of the Bethesda's jank open world games, so no doubt I'll be playing this day one on Gamepass PC. But what was shown didn't inspire a lot of confidence in me.
Looks great to me. Clearly a lot of jank present but also lots of what makes Betheda games special. I like how it looks but they need to nail down a solid framerate for launch, don't fancy another Fallout 4 experience. Biggest issue in the presentation was the gunplay which looked okay but unpolished, but the lack of even a reticule on screen suggests it's unfinished.
Gunplay was just ok but loved everything else.
Modders are going to make some insane shit for this game.
Modders are going to make some insane shit for this game.
That would be hilarious
'a thousand planets!'
...'and three towns!'
I am so fucking excited for this holy shit. I hope more of the backgrounds get revealed in the coming months
Watched it again this morning and I am really looking forward to this game :).
The whole 1000 planets to visit doesn't bother me that much given that I'm not that much of a completionist anyway. Although I do agree that perhaps due to such a large scope not every aspect may not be as fulfilling.
The whole 1000 planets to visit doesn't bother me that much given that I'm not that much of a completionist anyway. Although I do agree that perhaps due to such a large scope not every aspect may not be as fulfilling.
Honestly, really looking forward to it. Elder Scrolls and Fallout are some of my favourite series so I don't really see a reason to doubt this.
I'm interested to see how there procedural generation systems work outside bases etc on planets. Will there be cave systems, small settlements etc to explore and interactive with or will it be more just window dressing to make the planets look big.
I'm interested to see how there procedural generation systems work outside bases etc on planets. Will there be cave systems, small settlements etc to explore and interactive with or will it be more just window dressing to make the planets look big.
According to this, no :P
This leak from last year seems pretty accurate now
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