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That sucks. I'm glad I deleted SteamOS from my dual-boot then. I was hesitant about it, but it would have sucked royally if an update wiped the way I set up Windows.
It's the sweetspot between 30 and 60, and It's much better than 30.
wait is 40hz in?????
it's the perfect balance for a handheld device - doesn't require the juice for 60fps, but is halfway there from 30!!
it's the perfect balance for a handheld device - doesn't require the juice for 60fps, but is halfway there from 30!!
Seeing these complaints and remembering how for a decade every fucking Windows SP thrashed my boot loader. <crying face emoji>
Anyway, I'd be interested to learn how much energy is saved by going from 60Hz to 40Hz on the display alone. In my mind the backlight would be the big powerdraw, but maybe I'm wrong and the switching in the LCD is a significant part.
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I don't care for my desktop gaming machine, but in a power limited handheld it's a superb option to have.
Yeah. I put a good 10 hours into configuring Windows to feel just right plus downloading games Deck cant run natively like Fortnite and Destiny. I'm sure this isnt the case for everyone but my Deck updates have all been bad since day one. Had to reimage the system like an hour into receiving it.
Not enough to matter - like you said, its the backlight which eats most of the energy for LCD operation
good time to reshare this
youtu.be
Why Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart's 40fps Fidelity Mode Is A Big Deal For Consoles
We shot this a few weeks back, but finally it's live on YouTube. 30fps? Try 40fps! Ratchet and Clank has beefed up its fidelity mode when you switch your PS5...
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I'll have to check again later today because my battery was almost dead when I was messing around with it. Capping it to 40 made my fan go super quiet which was nice.
Playing DMC5 capping refresh rate at 45fps. I don't feel any difference between that and 60. Fan speed is much lower than before and drawing around 10watts. This is amazing.
Sonic Generations @ 45fps cap and Half Rate Shading on gave me a 99% consistent 45fps. I played modern Sonic Green Hill Zone stage, and the only time it dipped was to 35 fps when I slammed on the wooden bridge towards the end of the stage to break down to a hidden path. So so SO much better and feels great to play. The fan also was extremely low speeds with roughly 5watts being drawn.
Sonic Generations @ 45fps cap and Half Rate Shading on gave me a 99% consistent 45fps. I played modern Sonic Green Hill Zone stage, and the only time it dipped was to 35 fps when I slammed on the wooden bridge towards the end of the stage to break down to a hidden path. So so SO much better and feels great to play. The fan also was extremely low speeds with roughly 5watts being drawn.
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Wanted to bump this question. Any particular settings to use for Power tool?
Can anyone confirm if this has been their experience?
I would say it goes even beyond that.
Many people just can't stand how 30fps looks/feels.
And the Deck just can't hit 60fps in a lot of stuff.
This lets you run it high enough, now, that it looks/feels way better, but also isn't dropping frames. So the frame pacing is smooth.
Honestly, it kind of feels like this should have been the standard on handhelds for a while now. Obviously Steam Deck is not very casual friendly. But handhelds are a fixed platform. This is something that devs should have been able to set on other handhelds. Let them tune their game to 40/45/50fps (if necessary) and then manually switch the refresh rate when the game launched. Way better user experience, but the user wouldn't have to be involved in getting it working.
I don't care much about battery life myself, because I'm always going to play near an outlet. But the control over the refresh rate is an additional tool to make sure I squeeze the most performance out of the machine (same as my desktop, if the gpu isn't always 100% sollicited then I'm doing it wrong..).
CPU boost always on, since this seems to be the standard and deactivating that is more like limiting it, which should call this an CPU limiter and not boost.
And then you only need to worry about the CPU SMT toggle. Either on standard, which is on and on 8 threads or off and on 4 threads. 4 threads is the big money feature hear that will improve 5-10fps in 90% of all games you test, this is why you did this.
Such a cool feature :D
Worth noting too that this'll be immensely handy for the myriad of Unity games that lock camera movement to 50fps, which causes them to judder at 60Hz or any refresh rate that's not a multiple of 50. Should stress this isn't all Unity games thankfully!
Some Unity games you'd want to lock to 50Hz:
ActRaiser Renaissance
Alex Kidd in Miracle World DX
Disco Elysium
Haven Park
Minoria
Overcooked 1 and 2 (and apparently All You Can Eat Edition)
Slain: Back from Hell
Super Indie Karts
The Coma: Recut
Tormented Souls
Other games with odd fps caps you'll want to change refresh rate on:
Half-Minute Hero: Super Mega Neo Climax Ultimate Boy - 59Hz
Handsome Mr Frog - 45Hz
Kathy Rain - 40Hz (Original version only, the Director's Cut is fine at any refresh rate)
Kero Blaster - 59Hz
Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People - 48Hz
Whispers of a Machine - 40Hz
Also, if you emulate old arcade games, it may be worth looking up their refresh rates as they often vary! Lots of Sega model 2 games for instance are 57fps I believe, plus the original Mortal Kombat trilogy is 54. Finally, if you emulate any PAL games (especially handy for old microcomputers), 50Hz would be a good shout there!
Worth noting too that this'll be immensely handy for the myriad of Unity games that lock camera movement to 50fps, which causes them to judder at 60Hz or any refresh rate that's not a multiple of 50. Should stress this isn't all Unity games thankfully!
Some Unity games you'd want to lock to 50Hz:
ActRaiser Renaissance
Alex Kidd in Miracle World DX
Disco Elysium
Haven Park
Minoria
Overcooked 1 and 2 (and apparently All You Can Eat Edition)
Slain: Back from Hell
Super Indie Karts
The Coma: Recut
Tormented Souls
Other games with odd fps caps you'll want to change refresh rate on:
Half-Minute Hero: Super Mega Neo Climax Ultimate Boy - 59Hz
Handsome Mr Frog - 45Hz
Kathy Rain - 40Hz (Original version only, the Director's Cut is fine at any refresh rate)
Kero Blaster - 59Hz
Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People - 48Hz
Whispers of a Machine - 40Hz
Also, if you emulate old arcade games, it may be worth looking up their refresh rates as they often vary! Lots of Sega model 2 games for instance are 57fps I believe, plus the original Mortal Kombat trilogy is 54. Finally, if you emulate any PAL games (especially handy for old microcomputers), 50Hz would be a good shout there!
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Anyone else having issues with action set layers? Trying to set up MMO controls and I was hoping to use the back button to switch the face button to different numbers for hotbars, but it doesn't seem to actually do anything.
That is a good point that seems to not be brought up much. 40fps on a small screen feels pretty close to 60 fps for non panning shots. Probably just due to the smaller the screen the more blended the animation looks from a smaller perspective. I'm probably not even articulating this right, but yes I agree with what you are saying.
It works on Steam Deck? It shows as unsupported. Need a specific Proton version to run?
Oh I have no idea as I don't have a Deck at the moment, hopefully it gets supported in time! And aye if it does, absolutely do lock it to 50Hz.
People on ProtonDB seems to got it running, but some talk about Steam Input issues which would be of course an issue on Deck. Not sure if this is still the case. I don't own the game.
edit: and if this is the case it would be a good idea to open an issue here https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/ if you own the game.
Hope we get dual boot and windows proper sound support soon and most of the primary wants I have with this machine will be covered. The 40-60 slider was a great addition, that I didn't even know I wanted until a week ago. 😂
Wait seriously? Why the hell is it like that in Unity? Regardless, thanks for the heads up!
Any idea if this is also what causes the judder in the Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters?
(if you open the tweet you can find replies from unity developers)
I see a lot of people around calling this "40hz" mode, which doesn't really cover it. You can set the screen refresh rate anywhere between 40-60hz, and the fps cap points scale automatically. So yes, you can set the screen to 45hz and then also cap the framerate to 45fps (since the "top" of the limiter scale will be 45fps instead of 60fps like it is by default). You can do the same with 50hz, 55hz, etc. etc. It's really great how much you can customize it, since the optimal setting likely changes game-to-game.
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I left it at 4 threads like I've seen. What about the frequency - is that maxed out?
I noticed that when I turned on the Dev setting within Steam that Syncthings doesn't work. You would need to shutdown Steam in Desktop Mode before trying to move files.
Yeah, exactly. I definitely notice the difference on my desktop, but on a small screen it is nowhere near as noticeable. Also, the fan kicks off a lot less often when I use 40fps compared to 60fps, so that's another benefit.
It's 40-60Hz, you can't set it to 35Hz or anything between 30 and 40.
Any good tips or guides that you have for someone who would be possibly be switching over to Windows to play some of the games that aren't capable on Steam OS? I hear the controller outside of Steam is tough to set up? Thanks
Yup, you are both correct. Fixed my post.
It worked ok for me on windows 11 on booting from SD. It was a neat exercise, but I'm probably going to wait till can dual boot windows and it has onboard sound working (not just usb c or Bluetooth) in windows before I reinstall.
Two game-changing updates in one day.
The improved fan curve has transformed the device. It's mind-blowing how much of a difference it makes.
And the ability to switch the refresh rate of the display is a game changer for games that can't quite reach 60fps on the Deck. Not to mention the power savings.
As if I couldn't love the Deck more...
The improved fan curve has transformed the device. It's mind-blowing how much of a difference it makes.
And the ability to switch the refresh rate of the display is a game changer for games that can't quite reach 60fps on the Deck. Not to mention the power savings.
As if I couldn't love the Deck more...
It was slower before (you could already do it via commandline). Now it is MUCH faster (was around 1sec before).
I have bought Bugsnax, I have it too in the Epic Store. The curious things is that I tried the Epic Store version last week, and it didn't run unless you were using OpenGL, plus shuttered constantly and was performing bad. None of that happens with the Steam version, damn.
It can't be a coincidence that the default timing for physics/fixed update is 50fps with Unity.
It feels like that's beyond rookie mistake territory. Especially if you're tying cameras to it.
I did last night. Worked really well with the settings I was using. Super smooth.
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