Steam sent out an email earlier today asking developers to push their new artwork to their game pages. Outlining that the update is weeks away from public beta.
Overhaul me if old.
Overhaul me if old.
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Steam Library Update is going to come in a few weeks!
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Yeah chat seems to be inaccessible without a keyboard for some reason
If that screenshot is indicative of its final design, it already looks outdated. Seems functional though, which is good.
Discord's an Electron web app, and it runs perfectly fine. Dunno what you seem concerned about.
Discord runs like ass. Discord takes a million years to launch and runs infinitely worse than mIRC or (old, native) Skype or any number of similar apps. Just look at task manager, or pay attention to how non-responsive the app feels.
Electron, while it's obviously slower that any native app, doesn't have to be such a pain in the ass. Microsoft's VSCode is done in Electron and while slower than Sublime or Emacs, it runs surprisingly well. I would rather get a native app, but this is ok for me.
I really don't like it. I think the top bar with "Library" and such throws off the look. It's not really an upgrade from current UI to me, just kinda a sidegrade. But I suppose not really a big deal with how little I look at Steam.
Having used the prototype it runs completely fine, CPU & RAM usage is basically the same as current UI. Granted I don't have a ton of Steam games (only 388) but ya.
Only time the performance was bad is on first load when you go to the screen showing all the games with their covers and the covers have to be retrieved. It's fine after you re-visit that page tho.
I thought I'd prove this btw so here you go.
The most CPU usage it has ever peaked at was 2.3% on the first load of the Library Home/place with all the covers. Downloads increasing CPU load is the exact same across both since that aspect hasn't changed at all obviously.
Not featured: this does create an additional Steam Client Webhelper task (which is the actual web content of the library) that uses on average ~75 MB of RAM for me and never goes above 0.1% CPU usage except during the Library Home page first load where it does ~1%. However the main Steam Client Bootstrapper uses less RAM (likely since the native library isn't there anymore) and one of the prior WebHelpers uses less RAM too, making this about ~30 MB of RAM increase total, which at least for me as a gamer with even just a modest 8GB of RAM is negligible.
That said this prototype is incredibly early as you can likely tell from the screenshot, so it's likely these values are inaccurate and it might be even better than this.
Steam is already a web app (not Electron though). Generally speaking, you'd have to be an idiot nowadays to not use some kind of web-based framework since the store needs to be usable from a browser anyway.
The store is web. The actual app itself - the non store stuff - is native.
You'd just have to care about performance.
This looks absolutely terrible. Of course they'll do that when I just discovered Metro...
This will break everything, right? No more screenshots of the selected game, etc.
I just want to see the game I've currently selected tbh (kinda like on consoles)
I just hope that won't break Metro... I 99% use small mode anyway, it's so sleek and minimal - the default Steam UI and color schemes make me literally sick and it doesn't look like they'll ever change this. Ugh.
This will break everything, right? No more screenshots of the selected game, etc.
I just want to see the game I've currently selected tbh (kinda like on consoles)
I just hope that won't break Metro... I 99% use small mode anyway, it's so sleek and minimal - the default Steam UI and color schemes make me literally sick and it doesn't look like they'll ever change this. Ugh.
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I thought I'd prove this btw so here you go.
The most CPU usage it has ever peaked at was 2.3% on the first load of the Library Home/place with all the covers. Downloads increasing CPU load is the exact same across both since that aspect hasn't changed at all obviously.
Not featured: this does create an additional Steam Client Webhelper task (which is the actual web content of the library) that uses on average ~75 MB of RAM for me and never goes above 0.1% CPU usage except during the Library Home page first load where it does ~1%. However the main Steam Client Bootstrapper uses less RAM (likely since the native library isn't there anymore) and one of the prior WebHelpers uses less RAM too, making this about ~30 MB of RAM increase total, which at least for me as a gamer with even just a modest 8GB of RAM is negligible.
That said this prototype is incredibly early as you can likely tell from the screenshot, so it's likely these values are inaccurate and it might be even better than this.
Please tell me you can turn that off...
And does the background really have to be GREY? Wtf
Please tell me you can turn that off...
And does the background really have to be GREY? Wtf
Chill, its web powered, so everything should be customizable .
The bad news is that it's final, official confirmation that vertical covers are incoming, which is going to be a massive pain for people like me who use Steam as a universal launcher, and had (automated tools to grab) grid icons for almost all my non-Steam games. Guess we're going to have to go back to the drawing board.
Silver lining: we now have specs for the replacement assets, and high res mode has been confirmed. Might as well start working on replacements now.
Silver lining: we now have specs for the replacement assets, and high res mode has been confirmed. Might as well start working on replacements now.
Can you share the specs?
Feel free to post your images here:
Launching with the summer sale, maybe?
Yeah, having to reorganize my backlog, going through every game I've beaten to separate them from games I haven't played would be a paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain
They're in the link in the OP- '300px x 450px' or '600px x 900px'
I hope they are bringing more options for organization and not just a new look; e.g. being able to sort games by release date, being able to view/search by store tags instead of having to manually categorize everything.
I'd also like the option to rename games, and assign a Steam ID for non-Steam games to access the correct community features.
I'm not sure of the best way to handle it, but the display of family sharing content needs work too.
None of the organization is carried over, and it presents them as a singular A-Z list of all the games. Hidden games should remain hidden from family sharing entirely. In fact, I would prefer if family sharing could be managed as a separate opt-in list per-user.
I'd also like the option to rename games, and assign a Steam ID for non-Steam games to access the correct community features.
I'm not sure of the best way to handle it, but the display of family sharing content needs work too.
None of the organization is carried over, and it presents them as a singular A-Z list of all the games. Hidden games should remain hidden from family sharing entirely. In fact, I would prefer if family sharing could be managed as a separate opt-in list per-user.
Uh...Steam has been a web app since well forever lol. It's not electron though
that stuff is in (store tags, and not the community tags though) and you can sort by release date
they made it easier to create game collections, but sadly we're still unable to apply custom tags on individual games
i really hope the gog 2.0 launcher considers this
Here's some of the questions y'all posted answered.
It does not, however custom categories are way harder to manage in the prototype and I hope this is one of the things fixed in the beta. In the prototype you can only change categories for games 1 by 1 so in order for me to move a game from Awesome to Casual I have to right click it "Add to Category -> Casual" and then "Remove from Category > Awesome" rather than the current system of Change Category and do 2 clicks which is way faster.
1) Correct it no longer uses a screenshot you took of the game as the header, at least in the prototype.
2) If you select a game it turns into the UI I posted in my pic up above.
3) It doesn't break Metro but Metro only applies to the stuff around the Library itself as the Library is now a web page basically.
4) Small Mode is removed in the prototype, but maybe itll be there in the beta (I doubt it though, unfortunately)
That is just the Library Home page, you can legit never go there and just see the kind of page I posted in my pic up above.
Not in the prototype, unlikely to be there in the beta.
They haven't announced anything.
It's the same situation as Steam Chat now, while yes you can directly edit the web page's CSS, any changes will be reset on updates. This means if any UI dev digs deep into the CSS you can actually do a lot more than current Steam skins, but it's also more annoying to install with frequent updates and a lot more complicated than editing VGUI. At least you can see your changes in real time tho.
Official customization is lacking (at least on the prototype) with many official features either being removed (Small Mode) or more annoying to use now. (Custom Categories)
That said this is the area I expect to be most improved by the beta...I hope....because it is really bad on the prototype.
I don't know if this is different in the beta or release version but there doesn't seem to be way to load custom covers in the prototype at all. You can't even right click on the covers.
It does not, however custom categories are way harder to manage in the prototype and I hope this is one of the things fixed in the beta. In the prototype you can only change categories for games 1 by 1 so in order for me to move a game from Awesome to Casual I have to right click it "Add to Category -> Casual" and then "Remove from Category > Awesome" rather than the current system of Change Category and do 2 clicks which is way faster.
1) Correct it no longer uses a screenshot you took of the game as the header, at least in the prototype.
2) If you select a game it turns into the UI I posted in my pic up above.
3) It doesn't break Metro but Metro only applies to the stuff around the Library itself as the Library is now a web page basically.
4) Small Mode is removed in the prototype, but maybe itll be there in the beta (I doubt it though, unfortunately)
That is just the Library Home page, you can legit never go there and just see the kind of page I posted in my pic up above.
Not in the prototype, unlikely to be there in the beta.
They haven't announced anything.
It's the same situation as Steam Chat now, while yes you can directly edit the web page's CSS, any changes will be reset on updates. This means if any UI dev digs deep into the CSS you can actually do a lot more than current Steam skins, but it's also more annoying to install with frequent updates and a lot more complicated than editing VGUI. At least you can see your changes in real time tho.
Official customization is lacking (at least on the prototype) with many official features either being removed (Small Mode) or more annoying to use now. (Custom Categories)
That said this is the area I expect to be most improved by the beta...I hope....because it is really bad on the prototype.
I don't know if this is different in the beta or release version but there doesn't seem to be way to load custom covers in the prototype at all. You can't even right click on the covers.