- Oct 25, 2017
Watching Cactus Steven really makes me miss Pumpkin
Edit: Cactus Steven talking. What the fuck, nooooooooo kill it
Edit: Cactus Steven talking. What the fuck, nooooooooo kill it
Y'all have a weird perception of Steven if you see him as the worst. Dude spent a good chunk of his childhood dealing with intergalactic war and the past sins of his mother while balancing abilities that he doesn't fully understand. Now he's not only a teenager but has the responsibility of adjusting all of these gems to civilian life, which is effectively a full time job, while also continuing to deal with Rose's past. He's missed out on a lot, and he's feeling the brunt of that now that he realizes just how much has changed in his absence. Steven's always been the "I can fix it" type who can't/won't accept that things continue out of his control, ESPECIALLY when it comes to Sadie and Lars. If anything, Steven's worst quality is that he tries to take on more than he can actually handle.
It's not something that just talking is going to solve. He needs time. His friends told him that they'll always be his friends. In most shows that's the end of the conversation but that's not how it goes down IRL. That shit sticks with you until you figure out where to go next. It's not easy when your circle of friends goes long distance. As for what his pink powers are feeding on, it's not entirely mental illness as much as it what comes with the territory of being a teenager. I'm not just talking about the rebellious thing. They're not going there, thankfully. More the idea that he has no idea what to do with himself at this point, and he has no idea how to process all of this stuff that he's dealing with, something that Pink never learned, according to YellowThe wifey just said she hopes the message of this episode is “getting professional help,” and I agree. We’ve both seen subtext that the new destructive powers are representative of mental illness arising due to predisposition, and there’s clear signs his thinking is getting distorted by the new powers.
And it’s clear to us as well that he really should be talking to SOMEONE.
applying the things you know are true to yourself can be difficult sometimes, it's not really that he forgot those lessons, he clearly didn't because he figured those things out on his own when he really thought about them, but your emotions don't necessarily always align with what you know rationally and they can make you act in ways you know are wrong or contradictorySome of those problems you're mentioning have never been Rose problems though; they've always been Steven problems, namely his isolation and sheltered human upbringing never allowed him to experience the full gamut of human emotions (growing up with friend his age, going to school) gives him a rather narrow view of how things are vs. should be. His irrational fear of change at times is more confusing due to the fact we saw in the movie he just figured out he's the person he is today because he had to change and adapt, aka "grow up". He learns lessons and forgets them a few episodes later. Hell, they just had an episode (Snow Day) where he wants the Crystal Gems to see him as he is at 16, and not the bumbling kid he used to be!
I'm referring to the outbursts and the Gem Nemesis System as Rose problems. There's a pretty big difference between Steven's old outbursts and the Pink outbursts from what we've seen of her in the Flashback and how she treated her subordinates.Some of those problems you're mentioning have never been Rose problems though; they've always been Steven problems, namely his isolation and sheltered human upbringing never allowed him to experience the full gamut of human emotions (growing up with friend his age, going to school) gives him a rather narrow view of how things are vs. should be. His irrational fear of change at times is more confusing due to the fact we saw in the movie he just figured out he's the person he is today because he had to change and adapt, aka "grow up". He learns lessons and forgets them a few episodes later. Hell, they just had an episode (Snow Day) where he wants the Crystal Gems to see him as he is at 16, and not the bumbling kid he used to be!
My little sister's (around 10 years old) an avid fan of SU, and when I was going to watch the episodes tonight with another one of my sisters after she already had, she actually declined when I invited her. Show's getting really real.Ok, I fully believe that Corrupted Steven theory now. He's gonna snap when Connie finally appears.
Also this two episodes were emotionally draining to me, I never felt that before for the series. While it has gotten dark, these outright exhausted me. I really liked the themes of these episodes but wow.
I think Pink White Diamond is going to be Steven's Pink Form truly realized in a bid to keep everything under his control
Not much heavier than Stevonnie's anxiety or Spinel having a mental breakdown (literally since it actually caused her to poof from broken heart syndrome)
I think it's always been there since the beginning of the series, front and center, but because it was always justified it didn't mean much. Steven was someone just wanting to live life while everyone kept trying to use him as a substitute savior for Rose, only for him to find that not only was her role overblown but that he eventually had to convince them that he was his own entity. He's succeeded in that now, and gotten the world to a state where it can function without the need of a hero. So what does the hero do when the story is over? Steven never had the chance to expand on much due to constantly being involved in gem business. No one likes to believe that they're no longer necessary. The universe was unified by Steven, and now no longer needs Steven. He struggles to find purpose after that. Generally when that happens and a character can't accept it, they end up causing problems themselves just so they have a reason to feel useful again. Steven's been doing that, albeit unintentionally. Think about what Aquamarine and Ruby said: the primary reason that they're still on about hating Steven is that they were once heroes for their role in his capture, and even though they aren't being punished for that now that all of that's over, they no longer have that prestige.
Yup. I actually think that THIS may actually be a legit reason to bring in some version of Rose / Pink Diamond.I watched the four episode premiere with my girlfriend, and as I told her then I could see what they were doing then, we're getting into the "Steven falls to his problems and becomes the villain" arc of the story. He's spent so much of his time focusing on others he's been neglecting himself and his feelings, and that can lead to things building up. As he has powers built around his emotions and due to the series having corruption as a state gems get to when they're, well, corrupted, this arc seems to be with Steven becoming his own worst enemy he has to overcome.
Definitely seems to be where we're going currently from the last six episodes, and the last two in particular.
I mean, they could even end with Steven just leaving beach city and going forward into an unknown future. He's spent his whole life living for the sake of others it's time for him to start thinking about what he wants for himself.Honestly i am starting to get a feeling that Steven's is going to cause an incident that stems from his own issues regarding everyone moving foward which is going to cause a lot of damage to Beach City and cause him to like the title card, leave Beach City without the gems. Personally i hope this is the ending of SUF and then the final episode could be a second movie like SU: The Movie that defintive wraps up Steven's arc
Yeah that could happen and i wouldn't mind that as the straght up ending but at the same time. I think maybe a more complete ending would satisfying to more pepole
The Movie wasn’t doing a “let the past die” job- it was explicitly saying that Steven’s friends were the very thing that allowed him to face the future.
I just wanted to say that I started watching Revolutionary Girl Utena for the first time because of this post, and I am loving it so far. I'm on episode 6 now.