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MH MD

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Only 10 minutes weekly just doesn't cut it in an arc like this, and I mean it in the best way
 

DrForester

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After tonight's episode, I am ever more confident in my theory.

Spoiler's about tonight's episode in the tag.
Seriously, Pearl IS White Diamond. Isn't it sinking in? Why would pearl on white's thrown feel upset if she didn't feel tied to the post? We will see what happens, but as of right now, I am even more confident.

I don't think she IS White Diamond, but I think White Diamond can see everything she sees. She's not a slave, like Yellow and Blue's Pearl, White's Pearl is just a puppet.
 

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She's fine, she's with Steven

But of course, lol.

Happy New Year btw y'all.

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louisacommie

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Steven and stevonie wouldprobably resist some of yellows powers

So if they had actually fought back, yellow probably would have been caught off guard and maybe they could have done something
 

louisacommie

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steven should have forced the diamonds to stay on earth longer, instead of immediately finding the ship, in an effort to improve them there, with No contact with homeworld
 
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Lots of interesting things goin' on in this new episode.
I love the new gems with their weird gear dresses. And homeworld continues to look stranger and stranger; I mean, jesus, that singing green object managed to be both goofy and incredibly unsettling lol
I love it.
 

Razmos

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Yeah, I'm wondering what we're not being told. There's clearly something about White that makes even Yellow and Blue freak out over missteps in etiquette.
Yeah there was underlying level of "this is really wrong"
Like it's possible that Blue and Yellow only flew off the handle like that because of what White would do if she found out what was happening.

I guess the idea of gems fusing with anything other than their own type is a taboo sent down by white herself
 

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Yeah there was underlying level of "this is really wrong"
Like it's possible that Blue and Yellow only flew off the handle like that because of what White would do if she found out what was happening.

I guess the idea of gems fusing with anything other than their own type is a taboo sent down by white herself
Blue and Yellow were pretty chill before they got back to Homeworld.
 

louisacommie

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Some have theorized that all 4 diamond goops mixed together could be an alternative to healing corruption rather then gathering all 4 dianonds on earth But if we are right that diamond goop is used to make gems Shouldnt this mixture be in injectors on earth kindergardens unused?
 

Kino

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I just want diamonds to be nice! I have no idea how the crew could possibly redeem them but i really hope they do
I feel like blue and yellow, while not totally redeemed, are at least softened by the fact that a good deal of their actions are motivated by a visceral fear of white. Neither of them had a problem with Garnet or the other gems prior to this episode.
 

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This episode was weird. The dream at the beginning clearly showed that white's pearl used to be pink's but Steven completely ignored that, he should know that his diamond dreams are basically his mom's memories with a weird dream filter.
Steven and Connie accidentally fusing also felt off, they should have been more aware of the situation they were in and how fusion works for them especially Connie, why did she of all people push Steven to go against protocol and dance when even Amethyst did the "My Diamond" song and dance and Garnet swallowed her pride and unfused for a bunch of fusionphobes to support Steven's goal of getting white's help?
 

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This episode was weird. The dream at the beginning clearly showed that white's pearl used to be pink's but Steven completely ignored that, he should know that his diamond dreams are basically his mom's memories with a weird dream filter.
Steven and Connie accidentally fusing also felt off, they should have been more aware of the situation they were in and how fusion works for them especially Connie, why did she of all people push Steven to go against protocol and dance when even Amethyst did the "My Diamond" song and dance and Garnet swallowed her pride and unfused for a bunch of fusionphobes to support Steven's goal of getting white's help?
Yeah I agree here. Look, I get being overwhelmed and not making 100% rational decisions. I get wanting to make your best friend/obvious crush feel better in a clearly uncomfortable situation. But doing the one thing that could get your friends all killed or worse at the literal worst possible moment for it just reeks of "we couldn't think up an easier way to get everybody thrown in jail so idk power of love I guess don't think about it too hard".
 

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Yeah Connie suddenly deciding to throw protocol to the wind was a bit forced and out of character to cause conflict and move the plot forward.
 
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White Pearl almost definitely is being completely controlled by White Diamond. I'm assuming she might've once rebelled and was "fixed" afterwards.

I didn't think of everyone getting new designs since they were poofed. Those'll be interesting to see.
 

atomsk eater

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I will say it was nice seeing those two gems who were like "row row fight the power" and fused out of nowhere. I hope we see them again soon.
 

caliph95

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It's great they remind us Blue is a horrible person that tried to execute Garnet for fusing

Also yeah this basically confirms that white pearl was basically lobotomized
 

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The real question becomes what's going to happen to Garnet (Ruby & Sappire), Amethyst, & Pearl while Steven and Connie are in jail. Are they just going to be put into prison as well? Or will something worse happen to them, like being mind-controlled/wiped by White Diamond or being turned into inanimate gem structures like those seen in Familiar? It's incredibly dark, but the show has already heavily implied that WD did something very bad to White Pearl.

It's possible that this arc ends with Steven and Connie being forced to leave everyone else behind when they escape (probably via Lars & the Off Colors). Maybe we don't find out what happens to the OG Crystal Gems until later in the season when Steven has to mount a rescue operation to go back to Homeworld.

I don't think the show will stretch things that far, and we'll probably see what happened in Battle of Heart & Mind.
 

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I'm going to guess that the one brief frown from Steven at White Pearl in the dream actually meant something and wasn't just a "You thought I was mad for a second!" joke. We already know Pink was a hot head in the beginning. I'm guessing just like that Stevonnie vision with the window she punched White Pearl in the eye in a rage at not getting her way and broke her "toy" and White gave her her Pearl. Maybe it was Pink's first step on the path to realizing she had to be kinder and there are consequences to her actions.
 
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I'm going to guess that the one brief frown from Steven at White Pearl in the dream actually meant something and wasn't just a "You thought I was mad for a second!" joke. We already know Pink was a hot head in the beginning. I'm guessing just like that Stevonnie vision with the window she punched White Pearl in the eye in a rage at not getting her way and broke her "toy" and White gave her her Pearl. Maybe it was Pink's first step on the path to realizing she had to be kinder and there are consequences to her actions.
Uhh wouldn't that just make her poof
 

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The party went about as well as I expected. I do think the lack of caution Connie and Steven had before fusing felt a bit... rushed. 11 minutes is such a short episode format for story arcs :(
 
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You know the fact that she went from pink to completely white kinda makes me think that it might not have been Pink Diamond that did whatever to her.
 
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We know gems poof if their physical forms are overwhelmed and are shattered if their gems are damaged enough.

We don't know if they can be cracked though.

Imagine if Garnet, Amethyst, or Pearl got "cracked".
 

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We know gems poof if their physical forms are overwhelmed and are shattered if their gems are damaged enough.

We don't know if they can be cracked though.

Imagine if Garnet, Amethyst, or Pearl got "cracked".

not sure about garnet getting cracked but there was an episode about amethyst's gem being cracked and we saw it happen to eyeball-ruby too.
 

Kino

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You know the fact that she went from pink to completely white kinda makes me think that it might not have been Pink Diamond that did whatever to her.
Lars and Lion both turned pink when Rose/Steven healed them so White probably did the same to Pink Pearl at some point.
 
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Amethyst got cracked one time
not sure about garnet getting cracked but there was an episode about amethyst's gem being cracked and we saw it happen to eyeball-ruby too.
Didn't Lapis have a cracked gem at one point?
Damn, you all disproved me fast lol.

Maybe White Diamond healed said cracked Pearl but due to her nature could only heal her partially like Yellow did to Nephrite.
 
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Personally I think White has the ability to mess with a gem's 'code' as it were
 
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