Stranger Things 3 |OT| Keep the Door Open Three Inches

SeroTyler

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Oct 25, 2017
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tbh before the Susie reveal I thought they were building to Dustin being gay. Mainly that one scene where they followed the jazzercise guy.
 

sabrina

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Oct 25, 2017
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I missed it through the whole show, what Is some examples?
The impossibly cool girl who doesn't need a man's validation is often a queer stereotype. Despite her obviously caring about Steve, she has no problem razzing him and never tries to hold his gaze, because she doesn't want his affection and she's not attracted to him. Yet she'll be the first to admit that his attractiveness brings girls to their store. She cheers him on in his pursuit of other women, in her own way, and she doesn't have any other male friends to speak of. Nor does she ever seek male attention.

None of that means she has to be gay, but those are common ways that media suggest someone's sexuality if they don't want to outright spell it out.

And, tbh, the only reason Steve even comes onto her is because Dustin kept pushing him to, and the situation had caused his adrenaline to spike. Under normal circumstances he would have just known that she wasn't into him.
 

Kuma Bear

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Oct 27, 2017
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I finished this and thought it was great with the exception of the cliffhanger. After 3 seasons, there is always one more starts to get tiring.

Besides, my personal take away from this show is that it's about growing up. The kids become teenagers and the teenagers become adults throughout these 3 seasons. That final scene with the main characters adds some closure to the end of their wonder years, it's time to grow up and move on.

Also I would also say that the adventures they go on reflect the adventures you and your friends go on albeit without the super natural stuff. The core idea is there, you and your friends need to do something (go camping, travel somewhere, make something etc) but due to your naivety you're not quite sure how and working that out is the adventure but in the end, you have grown up, reality takes over and you inevitably drift apart as people move, their interests change or they get responsibities.
 
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Ether_Snake

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Oct 29, 2017
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This show is pretty much impeccably written and directed and cast. Really impressed. Give the folks behind this show more work after this is over. It’s better than it has any right being. There’s an 80s Speilbergy vibe too when it comes to the characters, so it’s nice to see someone “gets it” when it comes to making characters feel real.
 

TheDanger

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Oct 28, 2017
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I just finished the season, can someone please explain to me

why Hopper just chilled next to the machine after killing that dude???? I mean he literally could have been back to the control room where Joyce was in like 5 seconds. He just stood there WTF, stupid way to go out for him if he is not coming back somehow.
 

nekkid

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Oct 27, 2017
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I just finished the season, can someone please explain to me

why Hopper just chilled next to the machine after killing that dude???? I mean he literally could have been back to the control room where Joyce was in like 5 seconds. He just stood there WTF, stupid way to go out for him if he is not coming back somehow.
That swirling arc of electricity or whatever stopped him. But considering the alternative he should have at least tried, I agree. Also a convenient way for him to jump into the upside down for S4.
 

William

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Oct 26, 2017
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Watched the last 3 episodes this weekend, I think that was my favourite season so far, really enjoyed every episode and the characters all got chances to shine. Had some really great stand out sequences. Just super fun all round! Glad this is such a hit for Netflix.

Might go back and start a re-watch of the whole lot...
 

fleet

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Jan 2, 2019
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i have so many thoughts and questions!! sorry if they've already been answered but this thread is 43 pages long lmao. spoilers for all eps

in no coherent order lol

1. something that really bothered me this season was how cool everyone was with murder. hopper was mowing russians down with a gun, 11 was squishing them with cars, the kids were ready to kill. it was all portrayed to comedic effect but i was really just like, "wow el just killed like 5 dudes is she okay..?". i felt like that could have been explored in a lot more detail. hey 13 year old how do you feel about being a mass murderer, that must be kinda rough on your conscience. it also cheapened the death of alexei bc he was just the russian that hopper managed to not kill. he got like 10 minutes of characterisation so we were sad when he died, what about the 30 other dudes that were gunned down?

2. i didn't catch whether or not the news report thing at the end of ep8 mentioned this, but why was the town so chill with the fact that hundreds of people suddenly went missing? the flayed included like whole families and children and old people and whatever. they all just kinda died, what were the consequences for this?

3. i was so fuckin relieved when robin was gay just because i couldn't deal with the amount of romantic subplot this season crammed in. there's a giant ass lovecraftian horror threatening to kill everyone you know and love, is this really the time to insert 5 minutes of cheesy back and forth? in fact there seemed to be quite a few moments where i was screaming at the screen like, 11's bleeding out on the floor! do we need the comedic banter now!? you're in the middle of an underground russian war facility thing, do we have time to be arranging dates and singing and talking about our feelings!?

4. does joyce not realise she has like.. two kids? she's always like WILL ARE YOU OKAY AFTER THIS TRAUMATIC EVENT? and i'm like lady your other kid was there too!!! give him a hug too!! actually in general the parenting this season was wack. "where are your children?" "idk they've been gone... for a few days... i'm sure they're fine"
 

Jest

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Oct 28, 2017
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i have so many thoughts and questions!! sorry if they've already been answered but this thread is 43 pages long lmao. spoilers for all eps

in no coherent order lol

1. something that really bothered me this season was how cool everyone was with murder. hopper was mowing russians down with a gun, 11 was squishing them with cars, the kids were ready to kill. it was all portrayed to comedic effect but i was really just like, "wow el just killed like 5 dudes is she okay..?". i felt like that could have been explored in a lot more detail. hey 13 year old how do you feel about being a mass murderer, that must be kinda rough on your conscience. it also cheapened the death of alexei bc he was just the russian that hopper managed to not kill. he got like 10 minutes of characterisation so we were sad when he died, what about the 30 other dudes that were gunned down?

2. i didn't catch whether or not the news report thing at the end of ep8 mentioned this, but why was the town so chill with the fact that hundreds of people suddenly went missing? the flayed included like whole families and children and old people and whatever. they all just kinda died, what were the consequences for this?

3. i was so fuckin relieved when robin was gay just because i couldn't deal with the amount of romantic subplot this season crammed in. there's a giant ass lovecraftian horror threatening to kill everyone you know and love, is this really the time to insert 5 minutes of cheesy back and forth? in fact there seemed to be quite a few moments where i was screaming at the screen like, 11's bleeding out on the floor! do we need the comedic banter now!? you're in the middle of an underground russian war facility thing, do we have time to be arranging dates and singing and talking about our feelings!?

4. does joyce not realise she has like.. two kids? she's always like WILL ARE YOU OKAY AFTER THIS TRAUMATIC EVENT? and i'm like lady your other kid was there too!!! give him a hug too!! actually in general the parenting this season was wack. "where are your children?" "idk they've been gone... for a few days... i'm sure they're fine"
1. El has killed people before. Years before. S1 showed her kill quite a few Lab Employees and Soldiers. Her sense of morality around killing to protect herself or her friends is not typical because she was raised by Brenner, who when she killed the very first lab employee who she felt threatened by, praised her for it. Hopper is a Vietnam Veteran. So not only has he been trained to kill enemy soldiers, he's very likely done it long before joining the Police Force. And Russian Soldiers invading his town, threatening both the country and Eleven, would absolutely be seen as enemy combatants. The Russians he killed were all also direct threats to him, Joyce, and Murray.

2. The town absolutely wasn't "chill" with it. Rewatch the news report in the finale and read the headlines and articles if you'd like to see specifics. The deaths have become National news and the town is outraged at the Gov't.

3. The "shared trauma" comment between Nancy and Jonathan is actually a real thing. Intense stressful and life threatening situations do draw people closer to each other. But as for why this happens when it happens in the show, the answer is pacing of storytelling. If you keep things at a dramatic/action climax constantly, it quickly becomes fatiguing for the viewer and lessens the impact of the drama/action. So events need time to breathe and reset.

4. There's no doubt that Joyce cares about what Jon's gone through as well but he's been quite a bit less than Will has and is an adult. Will, as a burgeoning teen, is still very much a child and so Joyce is naturally going to focus more on Will in these dangerous situations because he's in a far more perilous place mentally, emotionally, and even physically. As far as the other Parents... that's a combination of the 80's being a time period where parents (especially Middle Class parents in Middle America) were perfectly comfortable with their kids being gone all day and staying over at friends, etc... , a staple of 80's kids/teen focused movies (Goonies, John Hughes movies, etc..), and the fact that once the threat is real, the action takes place over roughly one day/night. The kids actually do go home or to a friends house every night during the first portion of the season (Will, Lucas, and Mike have scenes in Mike's basement... Max stays the night over at El's... Nancy talks to her mother about her job... ). The show just doesn't focus on interaction with their parents every time this happens.
 

Jag

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Oct 26, 2017
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Just watched the new IT (the kid that plays Mike was awesome in it). I read the book in the 80s and saw the first movie so I knew the story well. I knew Stranger Things took inspiration from King, but seeing it again really highlights the similarities of "kids take on horrifying shit".
 

Brakke

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Oct 27, 2017
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Finished it last night. Seriously disliked the tone of this season. It was so mean. Murder, torture, sad alcoholism. So much brutal violence against kids.

Hopper deserves to be dead. Such a spiteful dude this season.
 
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JeTmAn

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Oct 25, 2017
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^------------ if that's a spoiler, please remove it, haven't finished the season

Anyway, I only just finally realized those Scoops Ahoy ads on Spotify I've been getting aren't just an ad for the show, but also for actual ice cream products. I need to get that ice cream boat!



 

Daffy Duck

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Oct 25, 2017
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Amazing season, I absolutely loved it.

i think Hopper is alive and well in Russia, he blatantly jumped into the portal and either spent time in the upside down or it was a portal that took him to Russia where he’s been captured.

Season 4 speculation

i think eleven will be trying to gain her powers back and will be looking for Hopper in the hope he’s alive and she’ll find him but not have a clue where he is and get the gang back together to try and find/rescue him.
 

effzee

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Oct 26, 2017
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I haven't finished the season yet but something that keeps bothering me cause I forget parts of season 1 and 2. Outside of the main characters is the town aware of what was happening at the lab at the end of season 1? And season 2?

Season 3 starts with no one else even being aware of the events so I am assuming no one else knows.
 

HStallion

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Oct 25, 2017
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I haven't finished the season yet but something that keeps bothering me cause I forget parts of season 1 and 2. Outside of the main characters is the town aware of what was happening at the lab at the end of season 1? And season 2?

Season 3 starts with no one else even being aware of the events so I am assuming no one else knows.
Even Mike's parents don't know what really happened. I don't even know if they're aware of El.