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Street Fighter V: Arcade Edition |OT2| Street Fighter Has Come Home
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lol I can't keep mixing the name up. Probably because this feels like MKX 2, "we held all the weapons characters for this one" to me.
Evo is August 2-4, and MK11 releases April 23rd.
MK releases are pretty big, bigger than SF ones. I think it would be very smart to avoid fighting against with some big announcement because many players from the big casual crowd will be interested in MK11 no matter what Capcom says, and during the first 2 months or so after release most people will be buying and playing it as it happens with all games, so during that time they will spend less time with SF.
If Capcom wants to announce SSFV soonish, I think it would be smarter for them to wait for the SSFV announcement until EVO: at that moment the MK launch crazyness will have reduced, many FGC eyes will be looking at Evo, where Capcom/SFV has the biggest visibility across all the year. So it's the best place to do a big announcement as SSFV would be.
But a name change would imply a gameplay change, as it can be to introduce the 2nd VSkill we found in datamining. If on top of that they introduce let's say the 5 remaining characters of this season, the change would be too big to introduce it in the middle of the Capcom Pro Tour season as it would be just after EVO.
So I wouldn't release SSFV just after EVO, I'd release it just after Capcom Cup instead and I'd keep releasing the characters as normal one by one across the year but a slower pace considering part of the team was busy first with the arcade version some months ago and now with the SSFV changes and S4 characters. I'd release a S4 character in April, another in June, another after Evo(August), another in October and the last one just after Capcom Cup in December just before SSFV release. The 1st character of S5 and the S5 gameplay big update would debut with the SSFV release/update.
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Talking about an hypothetical SSFV, what would you include on it?
I would include:
-2nd VSkill
-S1+S2+S3+S4 DLC characters and stages
-Several costume and color DLC bundles
-Improved netcode + option to filter wifi warriors + more accurate ping detection (ms instead of stars) and filter
-World Tour Mode
-Time Attack Mode
-Tournament mode (offline and online, both casual and eSports friendly)
-Story Mode Vol II
-Difficulty and number of rounds selection to both main story and character stories Vol I & II
-FM tweak to make it a bit more generous
-Color editor: choose hair color, skin color upper body clothes color, lower body clothes color and accesories color separatedly between the colors you unlocked/bought for that costume. And a preview + quick access to the shop for the colors you don't have.
-Reduced loading times
For existing users everything would be free with the characters, stages, costumes, colors and Story Mode Vol 2. I'd also announce several DLC costumes and stages and color both new and bundles for the existing ones. Because in addition to this SSFV full of DLC content I'd algo release a F2P version that would only have the SFV vanilla content without DLC.
I would include:
-2nd VSkill
-S1+S2+S3+S4 DLC characters and stages
-Several costume and color DLC bundles
-Improved netcode + option to filter wifi warriors + more accurate ping detection (ms instead of stars) and filter
-World Tour Mode
-Time Attack Mode
-Tournament mode (offline and online, both casual and eSports friendly)
-Story Mode Vol II
-Difficulty and number of rounds selection to both main story and character stories Vol I & II
-FM tweak to make it a bit more generous
-Color editor: choose hair color, skin color upper body clothes color, lower body clothes color and accesories color separatedly between the colors you unlocked/bought for that costume. And a preview + quick access to the shop for the colors you don't have.
-Reduced loading times
For existing users everything would be free with the characters, stages, costumes, colors and Story Mode Vol 2. I'd also announce several DLC costumes and stages and color both new and bundles for the existing ones. Because in addition to this SSFV full of DLC content I'd algo release a F2P version that would only have the SFV vanilla content without DLC.
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Jesus Christ, guys...
So now the existence of MK 11 is the thing keeping capcom from releasing info? Listen to yourselves. And the best case scenario is info dropping in August all of a sudden? A year after the actual release of new characters and not some jank ass Evil Ryu?
So nice of capcom to stall out for a year while they "save" the hype by avoiding other fighting games.
So now the existence of MK 11 is the thing keeping capcom from releasing info? Listen to yourselves. And the best case scenario is info dropping in August all of a sudden? A year after the actual release of new characters and not some jank ass Evil Ryu?
So nice of capcom to stall out for a year while they "save" the hype by avoiding other fighting games.
The "announce and release within 3-4 months" thing is becoming a big industry trend. It's not just MKX though. Internally Capcom had RE in January, and then DMC in March. They had big marketing campaigns for both games. With MKX an April release shortly after DMC, waiting on a "SUPER" announcement makes sense.
The point of releasing Super now instead of in January 2020 (like AE) is to launch it with new characters as part of the $60 package for new or lapsed players. It's designed to be an appealing combo pack not only for people who never bought in, but also for lapsed players missing seasons who will double-dip.
At this point I think they're stalling because they probably changed plans and SFV support is coming to an end sooner than they previously planned. Whatever they deliver next is probably it for SFV as far as characters go, IMO. I imagine in 2020 we'll just be getting costume DLC and SFV's final CPT season.
There are some players I see play Ranked a whole lot, for almost 2 years now, and yet their rank hasn't changed. Sometimes I see them rank up, and then the next time I see them, they're back down. They play the same as they ever did, with seemingly no self-reflection as to how they're approaching things.
I guarantee that those players never look at their replays, and never properly analyze their decisions in them.
I guarantee that those players never look at their replays, and never properly analyze their decisions in them.
Seeing the Street Fighter League and ESPN/University announcements, Uniqlo deal and the datamining stuff (added placeholders for the next 5 characters with S4 update+11 Extra Battle costumes in the recent updates,that x4 weeks means until at least February or so), the Capcom Fighting guy saying there's big stuff coming, Capcom eSports team growing, and several Capcom Japan announcements saying they have an ambitious long term eSports plan, SFV arcade release + SFV related Japanese activities to grow the community, recent merge of this division with the MH one so the main MH guy (CEO's son) bringing more talent/budget/easier greenlights to the division, Ono's recent words and the fighting games CM job offering at Linkedin for me sound as they plan to continue supporting the game as usual or even more.
I assume they are in a transition period caused by the work needed for the arcade release, the work needed for the division changes, the work needed for the eSports team grow/sign eSports and marketing deals and CM staff changes due to known issues. Once they completed all their job in these areas, or almost (still finding CM, but arcade version, division stuff, eSport team, deals and schedule work seems complete).
I assume then they are able to go back to focus on reviewing and tweak their plans for upcoming in-game content considering changes in the division, future visibility through eSports and marketing plans and having the devteam back. That would include S4 (and maybe S5) content like characters, costumes and so on plus the possible SSFV relaunch and who knows if also working on the next gen port and free upgrade patch since next gen consoles would release next year.
Seems Ono had this kind of meetings in Capcom USA and now will have them with the Capcom Japan R&D team. Once they tweaked their next steps they would redefine their communication plans with the new CM everything would be continue to work as usual.
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Different Costumes and Stages selection for Survival Mode, I can mod my game but I'd like an easier way to do it, like in Story mode. It gets boring fast when you want to unlock Extra Battle Costume colors...
When you play offline modes in DOA6, characters can wear any costumes, even the DLC you don't own, that's a nice feature and can even boost sales as people see the costumes in action.
Another topic to gauge how "dead" SFV is:
-DBZ just reached 4M copies
-Tekken 7 sold 3.9M as of December
-SFV reached 2.9M copies as of Dec 31th
The two main competitors aren't very far, and SFV may have also generated additional revenue from DLC, merchandising, eSports and Sony money. So maybe excluding Smash it may be the current game that generated the biggest amount of money.
Not sure what happens for people who don't own DLC chracters, stages and costumes because I get almost everything (except many paid only costumes), but I like you can customize them in story mode and that in arcade mode they use the characters, stages and costumes that best fit for this game (not sure if you need to own them but I'd bet they show the same for everybody).
-DBZ just reached 4M copies
-Tekken 7 sold 3.9M as of December
-SFV reached 2.9M copies as of Dec 31th
The two main competitors aren't very far, and SFV may have also generated additional revenue from DLC, merchandising, eSports and Sony money. So maybe excluding Smash it may be the current game that generated the biggest amount of money.
True, I would be cool to do that in Survival. It would make more fun to play the mode while also would help them to sell costumes, stages and colors.
Not sure what happens for people who don't own DLC chracters, stages and costumes because I get almost everything (except many paid only costumes), but I like you can customize them in story mode and that in arcade mode they use the characters, stages and costumes that best fit for this game (not sure if you need to own them but I'd bet they show the same for everybody).
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I always run into an Ibuki player who always do unsafe setup. He never won a set against me and would go back and forward between Diamond and Super.
We don't talk enough about how CRISP high level play has been this season. Like the game is only 3 years old, but the pros look like they've been playing it for six years.
If they were so scared of MKXI, they should have released their character in the normal time frame. Had they released 4 characters before April, it wouldn't have overlapped with anything, and they could have kept the last two for Evo if they reaaaally wanted to avoid MKXI.
I'd like to say "that's a ridiculous idea", but honestly, all the other alternatives are ridiculous as well. I have no clue what's going on at Capcom.
I'd like to say "that's a ridiculous idea", but honestly, all the other alternatives are ridiculous as well. I have no clue what's going on at Capcom.
I only see two plausible options:
1. Capcom is winding down on SFV development and we'll be lucky to get another character or two.
2. The rest of a full-fledged season 4 is going to be released at once as part of a Super (or whatever you want to call it) update later this year.
1. Capcom is winding down on SFV development and we'll be lucky to get another character or two.
2. The rest of a full-fledged season 4 is going to be released at once as part of a Super (or whatever you want to call it) update later this year.
I think it's a bit of both, but with season 4 being maybe one more character and season 5 being the Super update.
I can't see them having a big meta shakeup until this season is over.
I think Capcom is focusing fully on SF6 right now, but they are waiting for Next Gens to be official so they can announce it for them. We'l be lucky to get one more new character for SF5, but I've been wrong before so IDK really, Im just frustrated with Capcom not saying anything of value on this front for so long.
Yeah I noticed that mainly with randoms that show up a lot in top player streams like Valle's or AMKidd's channel. Some of these guys were Diamond back in 2017 when I was just a plat and they're either still Diamond or barely reached SD now. Which is strange because being Diamond in 2017 actually sort of meant something so you had to be decent to reach that back then. But it's like they've completely stalled and somehow never improved after that.
Imagine having your wife scream at the other guy the entire time you play him and you still lose. I wonder if CoolKid actually likes this or he just puts up with it.
I assume you're talking about the annoying screaming woman who doesn't stop screaming in the NCR. She also was in FR. I think she's Cool Kid girlfrind or wife since I think she sits next to him and when he plays she goes to the front line. I'm considering to take a flight to the USA just to tell her to shut the fuck up.
All three of y'all would have a heart attack at a basketball game.
You're right, the two situations you're comparing are exactly the same.
It's weird that you don't see them as exactly the same. People are playing games with money on the line, but y'all acting like everybody needs to be sitting with their hands folded in their lap like it's the opera or some shit.
Oh, you think having someone scream the entire match is annoying and maybe a little unfair to the opposing player? :smug: Have you heard of sports?
It wasn't that long ago that everyone got mad at the CORN guys and Caba for doing the exact same thing.
It wasn't that long ago that everyone got mad at the CORN guys and Caba for doing the exact same thing.
EVERYBODY WHO? I love when the DR pops off too. Same energy.
Hmm, I guess whatever subset of the population is made of people who think the game of Street Fighter V is better for everyone when there isn't a peanut gallery distracting the players by yelling at them, and also people who don't realize that every single competitive event regardless of size or scope or tone should have the exact same rules. I tried explaining this to the ref that banned me from my niece's ringette game for holding a sign with a picture showing one of the players getting beaten to death with a ringette stick, but he wouldn't listen to me when I explained that sort of thing happens at Wrestlemania events all the time.
Whatever that uptight subset is, they clearly aren't the TOs of any major tournament. Ain't nobody escorting Joy or Caba out of the building when they start screaming. Everybody there accepts it as part of the game. And it always has been. From the arcades, to locals, to nationals.
It's pretty crazy how close folks can get in basketball compared to other sports.
Hell yeah. At every level too. From street to pro. Fan interactions can swing a basketball game. The most famous is when Reggie Miller popped his V-Trigger and lit the Knicks up for 25 points in the 4th quarter because Spike Lee wouldn't shut the fuck up courtside. Reggie giving Spike the choke sign even. That shit is hype.
Yup love the energy in the FGC events and hopes it never leaves. I don't care who get mad about it.
I was a huge Miller fan back then. That was a great moment.
I'm totally fine with people in the audience cheering or screaming, it's cool to have some audience sound during the stream specially in key moments like at the end of a round or in epic moments. The problem is when one of them screams so loud that sounds louder than the game characters and commentators and do it constantly until it becomes annoying. Hell, she screams so loud that I listen her from Europe even if I shut down Twitch xD
Daigo is a damn nut and I love it. That match versus Problem X was so unorthodox and perfect.
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We all got good reason to be annoyed with how Capcom is handling this season, but I pity people who let that get in the way of them enjoying the game for what it is. SFV is giving us great Street Fighter now.
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