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Street Fighter V just sold a crazy 600K in 3 Months, why isn't Capcom talking about this?
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That is very healthy for a fighting game on PC, especially one that is almost 4 years old now. PS4 most likely has much more than that (and the game supports crossplay so the playerbase isn't split like every other fighting game)
DBFZ in comparison is only a year old and doesn't even have half these numbers despite obviously selling a lot more.
These are pretty solid numbers for a fighting game on PC.
Happy to see SFV sales picking up.
Good point. I guess my question is more why they shipped that many. Its not like stores would order many copies if they're already trying to get rid of excessive stock (bargain bins)?
SF4's costumes were way cheaper. Both games' DLC models are not even remotely comparable.
It's not very smart to disregard relevant information when comparing sales numbers just because you don't like it.
Oh fuck outta here man. Before SFV not a single fighting game enjoyed this level of continued, free updates for several years. Fight money or no fight money.
And what DEMISE? It's been 42 months after its release date and it's still getting support. It IS working.
Oh really? Where's Tekken 7's soft reboot? Where's DBFZ's soft reboot? Where's SC6's soft reboot? Where's BBTAG's soft reboot? NOBODY is doing mandatory expansions anymore (except for ultra niche devs like French Bread).
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Idk I wouldn't consider releasing DLC characters that way as being inspired by SFV's model but in any case I was more talking about the monetisation model of the game versus the one of most other fighting games.
No idea why you're angry like that. Chill out a bit.
We're not talking about the same stuff. The model I was talking about is not having to spend money to buy characters by using FM. No other game is doing that and while it was meant to be its selling point, it worked against it. That's all. The fact that they're not making expansions anymore is not what I was talking about.
And I'm not disregarding relevant comparisons. I'm saying that while it's true that if it released on more platforms it'd have sold more, it's not in my opinion justifying the thought that "since it'd have sold more on more platforms, it's okay that it sold less by only going for two" because it was Capcom's bet to go only for PS4 and PC.
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Well that's basically the mystery Jawmuncher is making a thread about inn'it?
Going by the chart in that link the spike happened a week ago, which is when the free trial and sale started.
There's always a post EVO bump and whenever new characters drop, but the same is said for DBFZ and Tekken as well. DBFZ is just now dropping a new character as well. SFV has always had a pretty stable playerbase.
Yeah, but the guy i first quoted said that it was a combination about the Playstation Hits version combined with bargain bin sales, so i was just questioning that statement :) When i first asked about shipping numbers, i was thinking maybe that they shipped 3.7 million a while ago, while the 600k was just extra sales, not including any new shipments. If they shipped 3.7 million a while ago, i could definitelly see that bargain bin sales being a noticeable part of those 600k sales.
The other scenario is a lot of downloads, as historically speaking SFV has mostly been cheaper than buying retail for a while. And what sort of downloads are being counted towards this number is a bit of an unknown. There's no real logical reason why there's a sudden huge spike in shipment amounts after March into June with the meager amount posted January-March, as they already combined Vanilla and Arcade back in December.
These were my words that you were responding to:
"After SFV basically every major fighting game has adopted the same model of having continued free updates while supporting themselves with DLC."
Is it the exact same kind of monetization model? It's not, but it doesn't make it any less true. SFV started this ball rolling in the fighting game space. Personally, I wish other fighters would let me acquire characters without paying a dime, but that's besides the point.
Okay then.
Fair point!
I'd say it's worth promoting (or at least spinning) if there's a noteworthy reason for a sudden uptick in sales, but yeah, if it's something as mundane as them fudging the numbers then there's no sense drawing attention to it.
I'm sure they make far more money on selling DLC than actual units sold. They might as well eventually give the base game away free
Gotcha. Still good numbers for a fighting game on PC. Not sure what percentage of those are people using a free trial, but it's good to see some interest.
Yeah, download sales could be a big part of it, indeed.
Sure, no problem. Thats why i also asked a question instead of just saying 100% sure that this isnt the case (about bargain bins being a bigger part of the 600k number) :)
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That is very healthy for a fighting game on PC, especially one that is almost 4 years old now. PS4 most likely has much more than that (and the game supports crossplay so the playerbase isn't split like every other fighting game)
DBFZ in comparison is only a year old and doesn't even have half these numbers despite obviously selling a lot more.
I appreciate this post.
Thats nice and all but let me, a proffrsional, explain to you why it doesnt matter and why SFV is a massive failure that doomed Capcom:
point a) Kens face
point 2) no xbox one All-in-one entertainment system TM version
Point 3) The game didnt give me a blowjob, what gives
In conclusion, fuck Campcom
point a) Kens face
point 2) no xbox one All-in-one entertainment system TM version
Point 3) The game didnt give me a blowjob, what gives
In conclusion, fuck Campcom
How do you know how successful the SFV model is compared to IV? Comparing just units sold tells you nothing because of vastly different business models and number of platforms.
This has been the big takeaway for me that the model of release and support long term with characters and costumes is super successful for the genre. The only thing Capcom needs to do with their next fighting game is get the launch right. That and make sure your "package" is full.
This post nails it. One of SFV's biggest failing was its anemic launch, which should be rectified come SFVI.
Yep. Don't ignore this post.
The phenomenon of people buying costumes for characters they don't and will never use continues.
I think the answer is heavy discounts. You can get the base version of SFV for about five bucks. However, the big question is how many people purchased DLC. I'm going to assume that it wasn't enough people to make this the most profitable Street Fighter game, or they would have shared those statistics. However, considering the steady stream of costumes they have been releasing, it must be enough to justify their continued production.
One day I hope we get a detailed breakdown of SFV's sales (including all the DLC).
One day I hope we get a detailed breakdown of SFV's sales (including all the DLC).
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That would be something. Just to see how they learned from trying out a new model.
I double dipped on Standard edition then Arcade edition, SFV both editions especially standard can be had cheap as chips for ages
SFV should go F2P with a rotating free character selection every few days, or week. Amazed it hasn't done it yet. Would do wonders to drag people into buying characters, or character packs.
I hope every publisher sees this and takes season passes, rollback netcode and crossplay as the new standard for 2D fighters.
You don't make an announcement when you hit 3.7 million 3 and a half years after the fact. They'll definitely make an announcement when they cross 4 million, though.
It wouldn't just be a bad precedent for the future, it would be bad business in the present. They already make bank off of DLC like a F2P game (I'm assuming by how much cosmetic DLC this game gets compared to every other fighting game that isn't DOA) AND they move hundreds of thousands of units each and every quarter.
It wouldn't just be a bad precedent for the future, it would be bad business in the present. They already make bank off of DLC like a F2P game (I'm assuming by how much cosmetic DLC this game gets compared to every other fighting game that isn't DOA) AND they move hundreds of thousands of units each and every quarter.
Worth noting that Tekken 7 is on 3 platforms while SFV is on 2.
He was responding to this post:
What's funny is that SFV appears to be moving away from the pass structure given the scuttlebutt we've had passed along. Word was that JP management believes that AE not launching with all 6 S3 characters ready to go day 1 was a big mistake that hurt sales of AE, which is why we're now seeing the move to character bundles released in batches and Kage's solo release.
I'm not sure if they're right, but I think doing the A/B testing here w/ SFV is a good idea to test the hypothesis.
Yes, the selling point was that you could earn more characters if you earned fight money. You can still do that. The problem that led to the FM reductions is that they botched the implementation and it wasn't future-proofed so that you wouldn't get 2M+ FM off the bat when buying a future compilation like AE Deluxe. A system where fight money was tied to big FM missions and character XP instead of actually playing the game on a regular basis was a serious mistake they made when coming up with the system that they can't really fix until SF6.
You can still earn FM by grinding out a lot of playtime, but this is going to only be appealing to people who have far more time than money, i.e. kids. Even in a corrected system in the future, that's still going to be true. As an adult just paying 5 bucks for a character is a much better move because money's way easier to come by money than time.