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Street Fighter V Netcode fixed by Fan Mod on PC? (UP: New mod released with better compatibility with PS4/Unmodded PC)
- Thread starter DatManOvaDer
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This is what Ono had to say about the state of the game in November 2019 :
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Yoshinori Ono: We've worked hard on the game over the years. It's come through a tricky launch, where we had all kinds of comments coming from fans and the media - such as Eurogamer. But I think we've got to a good place now. Things have calmed down in the best sense of that word. When you've got a form of entertainment like this, we're providing a rulebook to create your own entertainment. Those rules need to be well established, and people need to be able to understand them and get onboard with them. I think everyone is at the moment, and all the additions we've made have brought it to a good place. We're still working on it, and we still have around half a million matches a day. That's something that provides us with a massive amount of data - we can view the inputs and outputs of all these matches and use it as research when it comes to which characters need nerfs, which need buffs. That's something we're going to be doing on an ongoing basis.
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So yeah, I honesty don't know if they don't have a clue or if they don't care.
As long as we're in a good place !
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Yoshinori Ono: We've worked hard on the game over the years. It's come through a tricky launch, where we had all kinds of comments coming from fans and the media - such as Eurogamer. But I think we've got to a good place now. Things have calmed down in the best sense of that word. When you've got a form of entertainment like this, we're providing a rulebook to create your own entertainment. Those rules need to be well established, and people need to be able to understand them and get onboard with them. I think everyone is at the moment, and all the additions we've made have brought it to a good place. We're still working on it, and we still have around half a million matches a day. That's something that provides us with a massive amount of data - we can view the inputs and outputs of all these matches and use it as research when it comes to which characters need nerfs, which need buffs. That's something we're going to be doing on an ongoing basis.
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So yeah, I honesty don't know if they don't have a clue or if they don't care.
As long as we're in a good place !
I mean, what is your definition of issues? All those games had no like content and extremely poor balance on release. Way less characters than what we're accustomed to as well.
If you're only talking console releases, SF4 had a good roster and a few extra modes (Survival, Trials). Netplay was a joke because the netcode was awful and there was no RQ punishing system so once you got enough BP everyone plugged.
I.. I just had a smooth Brazilian match from Orlando.
I think he was getting all the rollback though.
I think he was getting all the rollback though.
God, this sucks. I wish he didn't feel like he had to answer to this kind of stuff. There's nothing wrong with ignoring trash like this.
That is false. The RQ system in SFIV was way harsher than SFV at launch. If you had a disconnect, even accidental, you lost huge ammount of points and it counted as a loss, and a win for the opponent who stayed on. I had as much ragequit in a week of SFV than in a year of SFIV.
No, that's bullshit. There was no RQ system in vanilla SF4 at launch. That didn't come until later.
Alpha 3 in particular is a wildly broken mess. But also my favorite game in the series.
I mean, Ono will say what the Capcom company line is at the end. I'm fairly certain Ono and others at Capcom have heard the netcode complaints over the years and know the community wants it fixed, but if the men writing out the checks at Capcom won't give him the resources to do it, there really isn't much he can do.
I remember when the Honda/Poison/Lucia stuff leaked and Ono was devastated, everyone showed support to him and he seemed to take it all well in the end, so I'm thinking that maybe if all that same energy was used to ask Ono to look into this situation (without being assholes) then hopefully it'll get the ball rolling and we'll end up getting that fix officially. That is not to say that Capcom doesn't deserve blame, they totally do lol, SFV has a been weird product since launch.
That is certainly strange, as far as I remember I always lost points if my internet failed in ranked match in vanilla.
SFV still has no rage quit system. An Akuma French player even proved it by reaching to Platinum with a "100%" win rate
No, it exists. It's just very lenient. I think you have to RQ three times in an hour or something and you'll lose 1k LP.
There is a rage quit system. It's just totally inefficient compared to the one they had in SFIV.
I think calling it a "fix" is very generous since it has a lot of bugs and causes one-sided rollback for PS4 players. It's definitely a good start and SFV netcode wasn't going to be fixed by Capcom so I'm not against them trying.
However, I do believe if Capcom put this out they would be crucified.
He just wants people to buy his game. Saying the netcode has had major issues for 4 years since launch wouldn't exactly help his case.
That being said, no it doesn't look like they care enough internally to fix things.
At this point if there's going to be a better netcode it will probably be in SFVI.
I wouldn't call it a fix so much as finally having some solid proof of whats plaguing the online experience with this game instead of guesses as to what it is. A true fix can only come from capcom as they're the only ones who can patch the PS4 version. The best this can do in its current form is fix 50% of the problem. And I say 50% because the one-sided rollback for PC players is the default.
and even then, fixed vs fixed matches are inconsistent as well.
Well yeah I can bet there will be in SFVI because MVCI had the fixes to SFV's netcode. Now the real thing to worry about imo is how the game is at launch. I really hope they listened and bring out what people want from a SF sequel. I am of the personal belief the esports focus made SFV a lesser game.
Yes 3 times. Just wait for it to reset after an hour and you can continue Rage Quitting. And you don't lose 1k LP, you only lose the LP based on the opponent's ranking.
When the thread title gets updated after the Tuesday patch with "UPDATE! capcom patched it out", I think that it'll make ripples outside of the fgc media/twitter. Thinking maybe Jim Sterling would pick up the story. To us, we know the patch is hit or miss, but to the masses capcom patching out a user "fix" is just too sensational to pass up.
That's fine. This game has dealt with this kinda bullshit for 4 years, whats another.
No.
95% of matches (at least) have been fine.
The fix isn't randomly going to fix the occasional bad connectivity between users, random hardware or connection fails etc...
There have been dozens of tests on live streams + all of our individual dozens of matches.
It has worked incredibly well with a very small % of matches having an issue.
lol I'm gonna need some sources/links, because this sounds like bs.
Its been posted enough times in this thread. Just watching Sajam's video is a good start. Not a good look to be taking a stance without even attempting to read into whats been tested.
You know the guy Sajam fought in Australia was getting mad lag right, even though it appeared fine on Sajam's stream?
What was the tweet he was responding to?
Back then I was a kid so the less characters and balance issues didn't bother me. It didn't really stick out until SFIV hit and by then I was in my late teens so it was noticeable. At the same time IV's release was different. I don't know but there was just something special about those days. The game selling well, the series being revived and then the FGC really turned itself into something else then. Maybe that in itself helped cover up the few modes, netplay and whatnot.
Then when SSFIV dropped? Crazy.
Ah yeah I remember that lol.
Yeah with me it's a tie between 3 and 2. Alpha 3 had the new stages, dope music, all of those characters and a lot of extra modes attached to it.
But Alpha 2? It was just TIGHT. It was compact and everything really hit well.
Some guy went off on him by saying that he had 4 years to fix the game and he couldn't do shit while a fan did what they couldn't do in no time, said he's disappointed in him and whatnot. Was basically going off in a long tweet.
Some asshole insulting him basically, trashing the game and saying he's lazy/not doing his job.
Showed up in my feed earlier, but now it was deleted. Basically some fool frothing at the mouth with personal attacks towards him. Whatever the situation is with the netcode, the decisions on where to spend resources are probably things rarely decided by a single individual.
Lol this. A laggy match in that situation is better than NO match at all considering SO cal to Aus is 8000 miles away anyway. The patch likely made the match possible at-fucking-all.
People are definitely taking the netcode mod into Ranked/Casuals. I had two matches tonight versus PC opponents where they were lagging noticeably different than what I have come to expect. The first guy was a 5-bar connection, but he was teleporting and rollbacking above and beyond what I'd normally see even if the opponent was a "5-bar" wifi warrior. The second guy was smooth as silk until about halfway into the 3rd round when the game instantly became severely laggy and rollbacking for me. It was like someone flipped a switch. The other guy was playing normally, but I couldn't react or really do anything.
I really hope Capcom addresses this mod soon in some way, because this "fix" is going to ruin SFV online in the long run if nothing is done.
I really hope Capcom addresses this mod soon in some way, because this "fix" is going to ruin SFV online in the long run if nothing is done.
One sided rolback is worse than bad online. That means the other opponent can't play but you can.
This is not the answer you want to give.
The answer is that this one bad match was just an outlier.
ONE GUY he tested it with, that had a poor connection AND was in Australia (thousands and thousands of miles away), had a bad experience. The rest of his tests were positive, but not just him, Sheldon has been testing the patch on stream for 20 hours, with around a hundred matches clocked in, the results were extremely positive.
Ultra David has tested the patch for hours making sure people he was fighting had no issues on their end, and also had great results. Floe had great results.
Various users on reddit and in this very forum had great results. Tested it with all my friends we had perfect matches, including one that was France to New York.
That doesn't mean all matches are going to be perfect. Like I said, no fix is ever going to be able to account for every random parameter that goes wrong regarding players connectivity.
To claim the patch is "a disaster" is downright dishonest. It has been very consistently good as far as patched vs patched and 4/5 bars opponents go.
Patched PC to Ps4 in any connection (+ random hardware fail) that isn't great is going to be absolutely unplayable for the ps4 player though.
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Well look at that, another one bites the dust
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When the only Fighter where official PR says "hey, play wired you nerd" is fucking Smash Bros., you know something's wrong.
Maybe he started alt+tabbing. Something like that happens when you do that.
There is also a way to force a lag without patch if the person starts mashing (or using a macro).
I'm on PC and don't have the patch installed. I decided to just play 1 quick set and got matched up with another guy on PC. It was pretty bad for me, but not roll backy. It felt really jittery and seemed like delay based. When the first match ended he rematched immediately so I did as well and the 2nd match felt the same.
I don't know if this guy has installed the patch but this is going to make me paranoid from now on. I feel like I have to install the patch too or I'm going to start suspecting every PC player that I have laggy matches with of having it and making things worse for me because I don't have it.
I don't know if this guy has installed the patch but this is going to make me paranoid from now on. I feel like I have to install the patch too or I'm going to start suspecting every PC player that I have laggy matches with of having it and making things worse for me because I don't have it.
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I want to hope so. The pessimist in me thinks they'll emergency patch it so you get banned from CFN if you're caught using the fix.
"2 days, but if he had access to the code, it would have been 30 minutes" for the first iteration of the patch.
Hilarious. Or not.