My posts are not about actions and consequences. It's not about defending his twitter posts. It's about YOUR behavior. The behavior of all the user posting in this thread. Terrible. Absolutely terrible.
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Subnautica's sound designer is apparently racist and transphobic. [Update: Fired]
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There's absolutely no validity whatsoever in what those kind of people say.
They want the game devs to have freedom of speech, but no one criticizing those dev's disgusting views should have freedom of speech.
Also if they wanted to go back to a time of gaming without politics, why would they click into this thread?
It's always bullshit, they know it, everyone knows it.
I wonder how that will affect any self-reflection. Why look for areas of self-improvement/betterment when you can blame external forces for noticing your overt/public behavior and you also have a vocal group claiming that you did nothing wrong?
They really refuse to accept any personal responsibility, it's astounding.
I fail to see how others are at fault for being disgusted with the disgusting behavior of a designer who openly airs their hateful views.
I fail to see how others are at fault for being disgusted with the disgusting behavior of a designer who openly airs their hateful views.
User banned 72h for false accusations of doxxing
Not sure if I should be happy about an asshole getting what he deserves or be concerned about ERA apparently now having its own doxxing squad.
Couldn't help yourself eh? Please explain what was so bad about a load of people exporessing their disgust at this individuals behaviour.
Are you actually going to elaborate further or are you just going to continue to be outraged and wag your finger?
Right, but no racist ever thinks that they're racist. Because it isn't racist if it's true, and everyone thinks their beliefs are true by virtue of believing them, and therefore calling them racist just makes them feel unfairly persecuted.
It's far more effective to show someone that they're incorrect than it is to label their fallacy as racist. I often debate conservatives, and one of the things I've discovered is that as soon as you say the word racist, you've lost the debate. But if you can explain to them that their belief is factually wrong, and that it's common for people to accept incorrect information based on confirmation biases that often happen along racial lines... then you can make your points. And yeah, maybe that's using a whole lot more words to call them racist, but it actually works.
Doxxing didn't occur. These are literally his open and recent comments. How is this doxxing now?
What doxxing occured? Pretty sure ERA has an anti-doxxing policy so please report any doxxing that you see.
"Waaaaaah why do my actions have consequences waaaaah"
Fucking snowflake.
It's a grey area yeah but when you openly say that you are so and so of a particular game/company and you publicly say some nasty things, then you are pretty much fair game. Smarter people would just be openly racist and transphobic, anonymously.
It was honestly the only smart decision left to the devs. Even just being part of a company that might hire people from backgrounds this guy is spouting hate speech about would get him fired from any place I've ever worked if these tweets were brought to HR's attention. This isn't a special case, this is just bog standard being part of a company and therefore being accountable for what you say publicly as someone who could be construed as a representative of said company.
And this is all without even considering that the devs are trying to sell a rather small product that could live and die on controversy like this.
Sad that the dude had to get himself fired over this. Hopefully he'll take this as an opportunity to moderate his public behavior online, or even to examine some of his backwards, ignorant beliefs. The devs absolutely did the right thing here, for the company and its culture and for the game they're trying to sell.
And this is all without even considering that the devs are trying to sell a rather small product that could live and die on controversy like this.
Sad that the dude had to get himself fired over this. Hopefully he'll take this as an opportunity to moderate his public behavior online, or even to examine some of his backwards, ignorant beliefs. The devs absolutely did the right thing here, for the company and its culture and for the game they're trying to sell.
Just wanted to point out that this is funny to come back to given how things have turned out.
Act like a shithead publicly, get fired from the company you represent. Actions have consequences, whodathunkit.
Point me to where the doxxing occurred? Also, read the fucking thread.
Absolutely crazy he's lost his job although I can understand why in the current 'Sphere climate.
Him losing his job isn't going to make him change his ways, at best, drive them underground. Absolutely ridiculous.
Him losing his job isn't going to make him change his ways, at best, drive them underground. Absolutely ridiculous.
Who got doxxed? Dude's job description is in his Twitter bio and he mixed tweets about his job and promoting Subnautica with those defending James Damore's bullshit
FWIW, i dont think he was directly defending the statements of that user, more so much that he was upset by the supposed witch hunting of said user.
Neither is true however, when you are in a position where you are part of a bigger picture, its inherently stupid to publically express views that are rather damaging to other groups. Its also problematic that one has those views in the first place, but hey, free speech. He posted those publically on the internet and somehow expected its okay to have these in a climate where the fight against discrimination and racism has never been so upfront and important as of now.
So in that sense i don't understand that guy. He is literally walking into a shooting range and then throwing a stick of dynamite whilst being also in a minefield.
Feb 3rd, not really the ''past''. If this was from years ago, then the thread would have had a different tone to begin with.
To me that does not sound like he understands why he got fired or why his posts are problematic. In a way i think that's sad too, because im all for people understanding why these views are seen as extremist. Firing a guy for making them is valid, but i hope Unknown Worlds explained to him why this is problematic. Certainly, this guy does not get it yet.
Quite shameful that he has to use an ad populum to have his message gain strength. Heck, even the usage of that overdone phrase ''SJW'' is already not helping at all. I would have appreciated if Cheong atleast read those posts that are nothing what he says they are, but i guess scoring a quick kill is easier than actually investigating the issue.
As the individual in question is no longer working on the game, this thread appears to have run its course.
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